News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


They are not false - they are skewed. It has been talked about in Poland few times. Probably you don't follow media.


You what? What do you care? Some people celebrate in this way some in the other and some not at all. No biggie.
Why you so insisting on forcing on the people your bias and your views and your point of view? That is a totalitarian thinking making people conform to the one set of particular views and enforce it on the others.

No one is forcing you to cerebrate anything let alone participate in the march.

Your choice, none is going to harass, judge or shoot at you if you don't like march or won't celebrate Poland's independence day. . Yet you and a lot of others commies seems to have some kind of problem with the march, patriotism and ideas, views that are different that you adhere to.

That mighty intolerant of you and your ilk not to mention racist tut tut Dougie.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


You don't get it. Those polls in Poland are not reliable. Too often in the past they were tailored to suit particular needs or expectations of those who paid for them to be a source a one can build assumption upon.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


A majority of people living in Poland do not care much about anything else but their own quiet lives. They do not vote and are ignorant of anything political.

To use it as if that fact would indicate that the march is popular only with a fringe of society is misleading to say the least.

I would say that a large chunk of those who bother to vote or are interest in politicks are supportive of the march in a one form or the other. Much more have nothing against it.

Sure, those who actively participate in organizing of the march as well as those who just vote on organization and societies that are behind that march are not that numerous by any stretch of imagination. They constitute about 2% of the whole. However those who support them less directly or have nothing against the march are much more numerous - I would say about 30-40%.

Also I don't see 2% as something insigficant, after all those who started the American Revolution weren't that numerus and had not enjoyed a popular support from the very beginning.

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they are Polish taxpayers/

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


you are, a commie, progressive who cares which one, your views are such that you must be a commie or a fool.


Slight below average, that is clear.
Since you're asking mine is above average.


Where you getting you data from? Polish people in general do not hate those marches they are just not interested in politicks or anything beside their own quiet lives.

From the pool for of those who are interested in politicks some hate it, some don't care one way or the other and some are fully supporting it without the need to participate in them and some those few percent of the populace not only organize them with their own money but take part in them.

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All of them?


Morally and politically.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


Yes, he does. He confuses values and ideas with the way a state act out on the world stage. On purpose I might add.


Look here. you made a fool out of yourself, again. Unless you are lying, again.

If someone refers to himself in Polish as a nationalist, then yes you're right, few people do. The catch here is there is a word in Polish, that is often trnsalted as a nationalist but it isn't - narodowiec is something different and specifically Polish. Chew on that Mr. expert lol.


Yes, he does. He confuses values and ideas with the way a state act out on the world stage. On purpose I might add.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


hmm... see you don't dare to name names and repeat your slander. As for the rest of your commie rant, jump the lake, there enough of the red scum in Poland.


Don't bother dolno. Delphin is either progressive or just a manure throwing monkey or both. No point to talk to him. Same goes with commie thug Dough, he is such low IQ its a miracle then he can walk and talk at the same time.

This crowd here seem to be unable or unwilling to grasp few simple issues. what important they are so suck up with their own egos and preconception they are not even really listening aside progressives. Progressive preachers are really something else

- a preaching semi-religious fanatics. Only bulled can cure it.

There is nothing wrong with those marches. If someone say there is they are either progressives which is beyond pale, ignorant or simply stupid bigots.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


So what? So what ? So what? What is the big deal? Do you see a problem with a phrase 'only black Africa'?

Anyhow, amongst 100 000 people you and other butthurt twits find 100 people with some not that kosher banners. What is a big deal? So what? It wasn't an official banner of the march. People are bringing their own stuff because is not an army but people and anyone can come. Sadly Soviets don't get it.

I can understand progressive preachers with their fanatical pseudo religious zeal. Those are dangerous nutters and should be neutered. Like delph for example.
Yet, I cannot sand those all useful idiots who buy into progressive BS and propaganda..
I feel an urge to batt them with a rolled newspaper saying 'bad doggie, bad doggie' in hope they will learn and do better next time.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


was it buddy? Don't be absurd monkey.

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What parties?
PO - biggest gathering of corrupted opportunistic a-holes with no values that paves to any progressive notion in the EU just to curry a favor with them?

Why would they? They are into whatever progressive - German made idea is baked in Brussels. Without foreign support they would wither and die.

--SLD - post-commies why would they join their arch enemy and nightmare they fought against and killed after 1945? Give me a break.

---PSL - another post-commie organization with a motto - politics equal money and all that. They are not interested for the obvious reasons.

KUKIZ - I don't know if they take part or not. Kukiz that is running that business for all his anti-establishment rhetoric is a pretty much in bed with post-commie establishment and he is pretty much leaning towards some kind of general cheesy liberalism. Also organizers of this march are pretty much his pollical competition compete for the same pool of voter.


I see that you insist on slander and lies. Would you be more specific please. Who exactly are you calling Nazis or fascist.? Name people, names and organizations. Are you calling Nazis all people who participate in the march, most of them?

Unless you adders those question directly I will pretty much take your mussing as a pathetic attempt at mud slinging. Do you like to be a monkey?

You are a Polish citizen t? Congrats. Also your real name is not a secret. So if you are in the right here just answer those questions. That would be a good material for a possible law suite in the future for slander. lol! I'm sure you are up the challenge.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


Because that is an independent grass roots march and they cannot stand that anything is outside the state and outside PiS control.


So you're pretty much in love but bitter cause they spurned your advances? figures.

I wonder why so many foreigners have an issue with said march? Are they insecure scared little pansies? Well maybe they just commies/progressives.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


He should be outlawed. What a major commie scum.


She can take a hike? Why is she even still in the office where it has been clear she was mixed with mafia. Problem you don't see maf is the fact that people like her instead of being behind the bars for criminal offences are making brazen statements.


Oho out of the sudden from being in opposition to PiS you are their cheerleader - lovely. no they don't know what their are doing they think they are being clever, paving to progressives in EU, and putting down a real opposition to which they could loose large chunk of votes.


Free speech has legal boundaries, and no Poland has no free speech laws as well defined as USA.

However I think that so called gay parades should be excluded from things that are allowed.

No need for that in Poland.


Oh stop with that campaign of lies and manipulations. Take something out of contexts show some people doing this or that and present that mix as a valid representation of the people you opposed and vilify for whatever f up reason. Typical commie/fascist tactic.

Just give me a break with you BS.

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He doesn't want to take part cause he is a wuss. Like all the previous so called politicians who are scared of what progressives will say or lie about them - phew.

They all are afraid of the populace - cowards. Only state should organize people according to their left philosophy.


What nonsense are you spewing you stupid ignorant commie.


You do it? Do you even pick up after your dog? Telling other what to do - commie totalitarian mentality meh!

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That wasn't governmental event from its beginning. Why would you mix gov into it? My guess is you are obsessive anti-PiS. So you produce some crap.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Easy with categorical statement like that. In this case you got it wrong.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


hmm can you back it up? Somehow I don't see connection you making. Land annexation has nothing to do with reparation and never had.

Are you saying that Poland should get it land back in the east? A good idea. If Germany with their traditionally good relation with Ukraine and Russia *( their are good, I tell you) could somehow ensure it would happen I would have waved any reparation or some such, I would, a pinky promise.


I'm not the leftist I do not get angry in debate. I think that a stupid post-commie government make some kind of crappy bargain. German in NATO with American troops on their soil are and were not any kind of a military threat to anyone.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


No, because:

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


what do you mean? Post-commie government in Poland wanted some assurances, I don't deny it. All I'm saying that those assurances were worthless. After all we all agree that the post-war German state has no legal claims to any territories. IF we all (as we do) agree with this fact it means that those assurances given to post-commie Polish government by Kohl was an empty gesture - so in my words - nothing.

In exchange for a real concession. That is all I'm saying.


Nah, they have been linked except in commie propaganda.


No in any way. Those are not connected expect in the mindset of some post-commie dopes.
Germany has no territorial claims, no legal or no practical whatsoever and will not have them in the foreseeable future. IF the Polish gov sue for compensation this border question will not play any role. Unless Germany thinks it can play this phony card again.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Hmm...so you're telling me that the post-commie government in Poland waved away Poland's right to reparation in exchange for ....nothing?
As we established above German state has no legal base for any territorial claims whatsoever. So what claim exactly Germany waved? Seems to me it was a one sided treaty. yuck!

By the way. war reparations have nothing to do with annexation of the land. You keep mixing those two together.

Anyhow, compensation Poland talk about is about loss and damage to property beside loses inflicted in a course of combat - like torching whole villages or small towns or destruction of Warsaw. 60% had been demolished by the Germans while there was no combat-whatsoever.

aha, not long ago Germany paid compensation to some hamlet in Italy where they executed few people during the war. Hey, Germany never paid to Poland for the countless instances of such action? What that even mean?


No, it is because this government is all talk and bluster but no action. Amway they still can sue so don't get your hopes high.


Well, Russia supped to pay about 20 millions in gold to Poland after the Polish-soviet war in 1920. They never did, so it is kind of pointless to sue them if you are actually after money.

I would say that Poland should sue them regardless for everything since 1939 and for unpaid dues plus interest. This gas they send (to Germany for exmaple) should be confiscated as a down payment.


What is not smart? leaving in a delusional world where Germany are footed with all the bills and have no gain whatso ever, poor hard working Germans that are so generous and selfless that they are more saints than people! ALL others in the EU are doing nothing but piggyback riding Germany - lazy gits.

Hey maybe you talk about Ossie- no my flies no my problem.

If you talk about Poland - lay off with your nonsense BB. Do better next time. No more ignorant rants - do we have a deal?

By the way - if you keep patting yourself on the shoulders so hard you my injure your arm that you need to work harder to pay off that compsestacion that is due to Poland.(after all OssieS paid null)Unless that WAS you plan all along you bloody saboteur.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


lol! where did you acquire your negotiation style? In a Marxist class of 99?


So, any territorial claims of today German state are invalid and null by default. According to our legal genius Delph.

Compensation for the war is a question of a political will not of a legal battle. The Teutonic Order lost a legal battle with the Kingdom of Poland but only two wars which they lost and a successful rebellion of its subjects forced them to abide by the ruling.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Not at all. Why would you bring up his ethnicity otherwise.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


like not opening the door to EU to all and sundry without asking other EU countries for their approval. Not even putting it to vote.


hmmm ...and because he is Polish you feel justified in discriminating against him due to his ethnicity.


Well, closer is propaganda. Rather than talk about Polish gov notice that 80% of mass media in Poland is owned by German capital. Do you really want to talk about propaganda?

Also, what with this oversensitive butt hurting attitude? After all point out out some issue and differences between countries and their interests is a part of the healthy process of negotiation. If your and YOUR answer is - meh it is all BS and propaganda, our way or no way - don't be surprised if in response you can hear - no way. There is no talk or understanding. Why do you blame Polish gov for it?

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


Dude, stop your silly rants. What Polish forces? There were no Polish forces there before 1918.


No, it wasn't for the reason that Poland came to be. It had happened because the Polish people wanted to to exist and they organized themselves well and fought for it equally well.


/ If you have problem with understanding his meaning in your own native language you have no business to be a teacher.

Love / Polish girl confusing me [22]


What doubt? You negotiate, accept things the way their are or leave. Are you looking for 'arguments' here? Is not the way you negotiate something like that. You need to know what YOU want for starters.

Love / Polish girl confusing me [22]


Dude, you negotiate - that what you do. If you're not happy with arrangements it is up to you to deal with it. Why ever would ask people on some random forum about an advice? that troll-like BS Well, whatever, you already did.

My advice is simple - if you're unhappy with those arrangements you tell her right away and negotiate.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


Yet, are not the same, it was lost some time around Napoleonic times.


No one interested. Don't you know it by now?

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


Am I? It is not the right thread nor the right time to talk about some obsolete issue. I was talking about the old Polish Art of Cross Cutting as dolno said/wrote something about 17th century. Cavalrymen taught to use saber and lance before the war are not the same thing.

Also one could learn fencing with saber but not pre-war cavalry skills as there was no cavalry units any more. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wojciech_Zablocki.jpg)


Aren't you presuming much?

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


ah, so you're talking about fencing not some 17th polish fencing - got you now.

well, that is of little use on today battlefields.


not shooting, one could improve his shooting skills in his free time all right, learning basic in school, and coscripted into commie army, only declared commies could 'own' a gun.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]

What are you talking about? That is crazy talk. IF you really posses some 17th century saber skills you should pass them on. Sorry, but I doubt that you do.