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Warsaw - under whose occupation in late 19th century?


Polonius3  980 | 12275  
20 Jan 2012 /  #1
A question to the historians and history buffs on PF.... I believe Warsaw was in the Prusuian partition zone and in 1918 Poles in Warsaw disarmed German soldiers (who afctually let themselves be disarmed). That all makes sense. However, why were all the shop signs in Wokulski's Warsaw in Polish and Russian? Did a border shift occur between the partitioning pwoers at that time?
Ironside  50 | 12435  
20 Jan 2012 /  #2
Did a border shift occur between the partitioning pwoers at that time?

Whats WWI?
During the WWI Germany and Russia were enemies. Is that answers your query ?
Harry  
20 Jan 2012 /  #3
Warsaw was most definitely in the Russian sector (until 1915 anyway).
noreenb  7 | 548  
20 Jan 2012 /  #4
I guess Prussian but I am not sure.
mafketis  38 | 11106  
20 Jan 2012 /  #5
According to the grandfather of all knowledge (wikipedia)

"Following the Congress of Vienna of 1815, Warsaw became the centre of the Congress Poland, a constitutional monarchy under a personal union with Imperial Russia"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warszawa#16th_to_18th_centuries
Ironside  50 | 12435  
20 Jan 2012 /  #6
I guess Prussian but I am not sure.

bummer !
Warsaw:
- was Prussian from 1795 to 1806,
- 1806 - 1812 Polish/French
- 1812 - 1831 Russian with a degree of autonomy
-1831 - 1915 Russian
- 1915 - 1918 German
- 1918 - 1939 Polish
- 1939 - 1945 German
- 1945 - 1989 Soviet/Polish
That just from the top of my head.
Harry  
20 Jan 2012 /  #7
1945 - 1989 Soviet/Polish

You mean Polish: those guys were Poles, not citizens of the USSR.
gumishu  15 | 6193  
20 Jan 2012 /  #8
do you suggest Harry that because these guys were Polish they were immune to Soviet bullets? - how many troops the Soviet had in Poland Harry? and how many NKVD or KGB agents?
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
20 Jan 2012 /  #9
You mean Polish: those guys were Poles, not citizens of the USSR.

Harry, I once read a reference somewhere to Poland becoming part of the Soviet Union as the "Polish SSR" - do you know anything about this?
Mr Grunwald  33 | 2138  
20 Jan 2012 /  #10
how many troops the Soviet had in Poland Harry? and how many NKVD or KGB agents?

The Polish army was infiltrated by Soviet citizens which spoke poor Polish (maybe they had some Polish background from their tip tip tip grandfather but, that doesn't help much... Look at Putin he had a Polish grandmother... He is still Russian)
JonnyM  11 | 2607  
20 Jan 2012 /  #11
Warsaw - under whose occupation in late 19th century?

Nobody's. It was not occupied. It was however part of the Russian Empire at that time.
Ironside  50 | 12435  
22 Jan 2012 /  #12
those guys were Poles, not citizens of the USSR.

All of them?
lightalma  7 | 13  
2 Aug 2013 /  #13
Merged: Sokrates Starynkiewicz president of Poland ordered 2 censuses

Hello,
Does anyone what happened to those 2 censuses of poland one was 1882 and then 1892. I believe Warsaw.
Where would I find them?
For genealogy purposes.

thanks
jon357  73 | 23224  
2 Aug 2013 /  #14
General Starynkiewicz was President of Warsaw, not of Poland.
lightalma  7 | 13  
3 Aug 2013 /  #15
Sorry for the mistake. Domyou know where these census records would be found?
Zibi  - | 335  
3 Aug 2013 /  #16
Ask Putin, the world democracy leader.

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