Poles the biggest hypocrites in the world

Truth to be told the most mind boggling thing about poles is the hypocrisy and the cowardness your people have,

I find it ironic that poles hate Islam though the last war "Poland", [commonwealth] had war against any muslim nation was centuries ago. And hell even then the muslims gave you a choice to either, pay taxes,convert or die.

Lets see the other "Europeans" the ones that you guys cheerish so much have done for you.

Il highlight the top ones,

The deluge ,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_%28history%29
Swedes killed 40 % of Polands population, Swedish invaders completely destroyed 188 cities and towns, 81 castles, and 136 churches in Poland.[10]

lets continue,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Poland
Your neighbours partitioned you, like you were ants and not important.

Occupation of Poland (1939-45)
This is the most ironic one, Germany managed to actually kill 21.4 % of your population in barely 6 years. Now the most strange thing is that had they won that ww2 they would have probably killed 80 % or more because they considered you as subhumans and was hindering their lebensraum. The muslims though 300 years earlier gave you 3 choices, pay taxes,convert or die. For the love of god they put your people in gas chambers because it was a cheap way to die.

Now would you rather pay some small tax or would you see your whole family gassed with no choices at all because they were polish?

And the russians who you love to support werent your best friends either, hell anyone who has a notion of history knows what Stalin did to your officers and pow.

Now tell me when Islamic countries even came close to these numbers, i really am interested.

Also the only thing i am sorry for is my grammar, but hey english is my 3rd language.

Quite frankly the biggest enemies of poland were your neighbours, Islam was your enemies but that was centuries ago. You would have to go back as far as the end of 1600, where a main islamic nation attacked poland.

And now lets make sense that there are many poles that are some good hard working decent people, but i am quite curious where the hate for islam comes when Europe has literaly been your worst nightmare.

I see you haven't met many Poles.

Nah, 300 years earlier we send your Muslim asses running , crying like a little girls after we whipped your ass. You got your history wrong or you confused nations.


Poles don't hate Islam but they think it doesn't belong in Poland. Simple.

Pretty much this.

@Number1polishfa

Polish people do actually have a generalized dislike of countries around them such as Russia or Germany or even the UK for not helping in the Second World War after getting help from Poland.

With Islam, it's nothing to do with any war and everything to do with the culture simply not fitting in with the Polish one. I don't even think Polish people particularly dislike Muslims, they just don't want masses of them to enter their country and start imposing their cultures, as they have done in other Western European countries.

Every single European country should deport Muslims.
Poland should avoid becoming like Western Europe at all costs.

This isn't unusual - most places have history and plenty of countries have good relations with their neighbours despite traditional, perhaps justified, unease.


Most people here aren't haters and Islam is unfamiliar to most people; it is something new that most people hear about (the bull **** , internet or otherwise at least as much as the truth) but don't really experience first hand unless they travel.

Its close to becoming a reality. There is still hope!

Not a chance.

Poland will b free from dat scum for a long time. Poland should also kick out all those forerign homos as well as start a national medical programme 2 beat dat disease within Poles.

Most places?

How then happened that Germanics had and have problems with ALL Slavs, no matter were/are they neighbors or not? Is that because Germanics are manics?

Maybe it's the other way round and some Slavs have a problem with western Europe?

Some?

But all Slavs were/are targeted by Drang Nach Osten.

That was many, many decades ago. History. Who gives a hoot? But you also wrote "have problems" - which is not true for most people except for maybe a handful of "nationalists" on both sides that still live in the distant past. Trump, Le Pen and Wilders want to take us back to those dark days.

I'm baffled by your 'this or that is antediluvian' approach. I think you came here to have contratom even on a subject you don't 'give a hoot' about.

@theother

Don't kid yourself, its still happening today. who is really running the EU, the policies in general, who's economic interests do they serve. New markets for Germany were always in the east. don't forget the forced resettlement of the so called German guests by any means necessary which Brussels is threatening other members of the union with. Once again Brussels represents who, like it or not but all those things serve German interests only. Only thing that changed is the name of the policy as the old one is outdated, hearing it leaves a bitter taste but the aim of the German policy remained constant, same as in the 30s.

Why? Nobody in Germany or Poland is talking about a "Drang nach Osten" - except maybe for some right wing weirdos with a cramp in their right arm who think we are still living in the 1930's.


I wouldn't comment if I wouldn't be interested. That you don't like my opinion is a different story.


China is in the east, too, so where's the problem? The French do business in the east, the Brits do it, the Americans do it - do you believe they all have a "Drang nach Osten"? Why are you so paranoid about Germany (except for that dark era long before your parents were born)? Honestly, you guys need to get WW2 out of your heads. Nobody in Germany is interested to occupy Poland or live in the taiga. Most West Germans wouldn't even move to East Germany unless it's close to Berlin.

Sorry, missed this one. If the above would be true, no other country would've ever joined the EU. Why did Poland join? Because Brussels serves only German interests?

some right wing weirdos?



Based on vast research in the United States, Great Britain, and Poland, many interviews, theses and other papers, documents and official histories, memoirs, autobiographies, articles, periodicals and newspapers, "Did the Children Cry?" stands as a monument to millions of children who were bombed, wounded, deported, raped, starved, maimed, subjected to "medical" experimentation, and killed in German-occupied Poland

Lol

You're trying to hard to forget the past, what's the matter, ashamed. When it came to settle the bill for the Greek party which lasted a couple of decades germany said hell no but now you expect every one else to chip in for the guests you invited in and to adopt them. Perhaps you don't want to move east but sure as hell you want to send your adapted children there, same **** if you ask me.

Statement of Serbian FM Ivica Dacic >>>


Serbia built new Europe with its victims
theremustbejustice.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/386/


Its Polish children in Germany for assimilation and Arab children in Poland to assimilate remaining Poles.

A pattern of abuse would make any country say enough is enough regardless of who the aggressor was (past, present and future).

The Earth has 36.5 billion acres of land. All of Poland consist of only about 77 million acres. So there is plenty of room for foreigns and their religious groups to reside elsewhere.

If you want to trade with Poland then great. Send us your money in exchange for our exports. You can come as a tourist for a short visit and take some nice photos and good memories of our exquisite food, rich history, and unique culture back home with you.


Like other countries at the time Poland needed to restructure and grow its economy after decades of dystopian and dysfunctional communist occupation. It was also in Poland's security interests to free itself once and for all from Russia's orbit.

Even though Poland had to make very difficult domestic sacrifices at the time, the terms and conditions for EU membership seemed reasonable; i.e., to become part of a common market place which still respected national sovereignty.

There were no imploding economies within the EU until the PIIGS (Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece and Spain) began to squeal for bailouts. There was no manufactured "refugee" crisis with quotas being mandated for resettlement. All of that happened much later and had absolutely nothing to do with Poland's membership.

Brussels is to blame for all of it and now they want to socialize the pain and for Poland to be nothing more than a giant disposable sponge and absorb it.

You know why, look at his statement. They can't take criticism nor the responsibility for their own or their leaders, parents, grandparents action, they suspect that Serbians won't be quiet on most of the issues, rightly so. Its the Nazis and Polish concentration camps - Germans its that simple, not some Nazis nor Polish concentratin camps. EU will split on the migrant's issue just like Roman E. I'm sure Serbia will join big Bizantium, Miedzymorze. That is.

That makes sense, but doesn't explain why the country would voluntarily become member in an organization that - according to ShortHairTHug - only serves German interests and functions as a smoke screen for a hidden attempt of another "Drang nach Osten". No country in Europe would stay in the EU or become a member if that was true. Remember, it wasn't only the Poles who had to suffer under a Nazi occupation.


Greece and Germany settled in 1960. Despite: the Greeks defaulted already three times on their debt, AFAIK. Why are they still able to retire early and get away with not paying taxes? Because others pay?


Why would I? I live on the American West Coast...


Yes. You said that people still have problems with an imaginary German "Drang nach Osten", and that's simply not true for most regular folks in Europe or elsewhere.

@TheOther

You as in west Germans on whose behalf you spoke, besides if you're a yank you should stay out of the European affairs. This debate is none of your business .

Last time I looked this was an American discussion forum. I'm also Australian - and as descendents of British convicts we Aussies have a right to be involved in European affairs. We're pretty much your long lost cousins. LOL!

Why are you afraid of a debate?

I'm not, a cousin ten times removed living on the west cost of the US simply has no idea of the problem at hand, neither will he ever have to live in the aftermath of the policies adapted by prevailing side. No matter what side of the issue he's debating he will never have to face the consequence of his action. I on the other hand will have to live in that reality created by delusional mind, therefore I make my voice heard before it's too late.

You're making an argument for an argument sake, catch some waves, life's too short for you to debate this topic. Enjoy life and hope that sharia low is not implemented where you live. Surfing might be outlawed.

How do you know?

Poland began accession talks in 1994 and became a member in 2004. As I pointed out things are very different now. Germany has been one of the stronger economies in Europe (based mostly on its large export base) and we all know that the he who pays the piper calls the tune.

Germany's economy was rebuilt after World War II by a very different generation who had a more traditional and conservative approach to life. They are mostly retired or dead now. But their care, attention and discipline contributed to German's prosperity. The generation running Germany now though were (and still are) narcissistic and hedonistic doped-up hippies and militant leftist radicals from back in the 1960s and 1970s. Because they are now older and flabby they realize they won't live forever and they are bitter about it. So much so they are continuing to squander the inheritance they have been given and handing what dwindling amount remains over to third worlders under the pretense of social justice. Once they are finally dead the wealth will be depleted and they certainly won't be around for the social decay and collapse which will follow.


Switzerland never joined the EU. Not only due to its long history of neutrality but it competes with Germany in banking, luxury products and other goods. the Swiss franc is also a reserve currency around the world and that gives Switzerland economic strength and even political influence. So of course they don't want Berlin calling the shots. Norway never joined either and Iceland all but shelved its plans to join. They had different reasons but seeing how Greece literally was going up in flames based on dictates from Germany over its fiscal crisis that would scare off any non-member. You do recall it was the Germans who told the Greeks they should sell their islands to help balance their books? If that's their attitude to solving problems then it is understandable that members and non-members would have second thoughts.

And just about all EU member states have put the brakes on matters which weren't in their national interests. This has mainly surrounded immigration quotas and adoption of the Euro both of which Poland has rightly stood her ground.

And countries are leaving the EU. Brexit will happen and there is no denying the spur for it was irresponsible and out-of-control immigration policies and the absolute nightmare Merkel was creating before everyone's eyes.

Sorry, I'll have to split this post in half because of the quotes limit...


They were always the strongest (or one of the strongest) since the 1960's. At some point (long before the introduction of the Euro) they were even the world's leading export nation.


Many are, you're right. In Germany they are called the "1968er". They are mostly responsible for a very weak justice system (no punishment, just a slap on the hand) as well as the eternal "Mea culpa" guilt trip related to the Nazi era that paralyzes Germany to this very day. They have to be carried around in buckets because they don't have a spine.


Same reason why they stayed out of WW2 and never became a member of NATO - staying neutral at all cost.