Weapons of WWII (Poland and other countries)

The Germans were not so far away from developing one themselves.....now that would have been a bit of a problem for the allies.....It might have been a different story if a certain Jewish scientist hadn,t been hounded out of Germany and moved to the USA....where he later helped develop the bomb....?

wildrover

Oppenheimer was a Jew, yes, but he was born and bred in the US. The US already started their Manhattan Project in 1941. And Oppenheimer turned into a Buddhist (or Zen-Buddhist) once he saw the consequences of his invention.

M-G (is off now)

Oh , i thought he moved there when being Jewish became a bit unpopular in Germany.....Anyway...very impressive bomb he made....

Well,you can trace modern rocketry to the Indian Maharajas of the 18th century,the british copied them diretly and were used with some succes during the napolionic wars,as for the ww2 aspect,pretty much all sides used MLRS from the huge ships packed full of em for landing support to a set of 6 on a german APC......yes,Im a very sad man....

not sad, i call it more informative, thanks for the explanation mate. It was so strange that they popped into my head as soon as i had watched/heard scraps video!!! It was the first thing i thought of.

You mean the strategy of 'let's attack the Romanians, Romanians and Hungarians on the German flanks, they're under-trained and ill-equipped'? There's a truly brilliant strategy! And where had the Russians first learned it? From the British.

What about the Chinese ?

lol, I realised the Indians probably nicked the idea from the Chinese,as far as rockets go,but Im not sure the chinese used them as weapons of war.....

They did, about 800 years ago.

Just proves they have a long history of savagry then,god help the rest of the world in this coming century as we slide into a chi-com dominated future......

Just as long as ours but i'm afraid savagery is one thing we beat them at.


Unlike American dominated future?

Truman would not have dropped a nuke on Berlin he had an excuse with the Japs in Pearl harbour.

You sure???

That would be counterproductive, they had a pretty good idea that Russia is going to be the next bad guy and Germans would need to be bought into good graces.

Plus having Russians conquer it had a number of advantages, not least of it Germans experiencing Russian heavy hand and preferring to stick with the West.

I'm still not sure....maybe a half a year earlier (Ardennen offensive) they would had done it?

No, but if he/we had seen the concentration camps then maybe. Bommer Harris would have toute suite no matter, not sure about Churchill though... I dont think so.

The Yanks had the perfect excuse with the Japs.

Lets try some reverse psychology, would Hitler drop one on London, fcuk yeh

Well, Hitler was crowded into the corner...I doubt he would had denied any weapon if he had still any left...the whole country waited for one of those touted "Wunderwaffen"!

My dad was based in Berlin during the 50s (national service) and he remembers this old war horse colonel who had served all his life in the army and was due to be pensioned off (very reluctantly) His only hope and biggest wish was that the Russians would invade so he wouldn't have to leave.

In 1944 maybe, but what if he had them before?? Isnt it amazing the peace that the nuclear weapon has brought, never thought about that until now. huumm food for thought, is thinks.

a real persuader, maybe it wasnt such a devestating invention after all.

Yeah...a great deterrent I must admit. And very probably kept the cold war "cold".
But bought on the backs of the people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki...

Nuking the Japanese was a bad decision (in retrospect), so was Dresden.. at the same time the Japanese treated American / British POWs horribly, starved them etc. Stuff that would have made the Nazis shudder. At least Hitler kind of respected the warrior.

Indeed, imagine how many wars would have been fought without it.

Back to cold war though without the Nuke how would that have been fought anyway it really would have been a cold war. Two nations at war without actually attacking each other, well not in traditional methods anyway.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commando_Order

Okay well a lot of Americans weren't shot on site, and given a choice I'd rather be in a German prison than a Japanese. You kind of grasped that, didn't you? However, thanks for the glib a.sshole point you've made. Typical British.

Yes i did and agree with you.


You are more than welcome :-)

One victim of the commando order with a great sting in tail

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Godwin_RNVR

Well, that was common on all sites of the war.

Germans caught during the Operation Greif in american uniforms were shot half an hour later...no Hague convention for them.

Not in their own

operation bulbasket

After the men had been captured they were handed over to German security forces commanded by SS Sturmbannführer Hans Josef Kieffer, the senior German intelligence officer in Paris, and were held in prison in Paris for a month. Kieffer then had the prisoners dressed in civilian clothes and they were taken back to the woods near their base and shot with Sten guns to make it look like a misunderstanding between Allies. One SAS trooper, however, managed to escape the massacre and after the war gave evidence at the Nuremberg trials against Kieffer, who received a death sentence.[3]

See John Godwin link above.

"Victors law"...nothing else! They did the same thing with the Germans they caught...

In foreign uniforms perhaps.

The order itself stated that

From now on all men operating against German troops in so-called commando raids, even if they are in uniform, whether armed or unarmed, in battle or in flight, are to be annihilated to the last man.... Even if these individuals on discovery ... give themselves up as prisoners, no pardon is on any account to be given.

What do you think "Commandos" means? That are special troops infiltrating behind enemy lines to gather information or do other special tasks!

Every country had them and used them....and they knew they were very likely to get killed when caught. Only with the Germans it became a war crime after the war...you've got to be kidding!