Do Poles really blame Britain for Poland becoming Communist after the war?

Read the main page with understanding , you are giving just a number of troops engaged in certain campaign called land battles 1941-1945 and also it is the number at the end of the war of those soldiers who survived , altrough you don`t comprehend properly , but let me tell you something , maybe you should consider the fact that tens of thousands of Polish soldiers died during campaigns throughout 6 years of war . The cited by you line states the time of the end of the war . During the war Polish regular army troops losses were estimated as 160 000 .

2 millions of Polish soldiers comes form regular army troops engaged in western and eastern fronts , underground army forces , partisan troops . In the final stage of war the Polish troops on all the European fronts amounted to some 600 000 soldiers (infantry, armored troops, aircraft and navy) It says those who were alive and formed regular army !!!!!!

It doesn`t count underground army and partisan troops alive or dead !!!!!!!

Let`s summarise :regular army troops who participated in the IIWW were estimated as high as : alive 600 000 + dead 160 000= 760 000 .

Scrapping the barrel kid. Housing old vets in the 80 -90yr age band is hardly a drain on the British taxpayer now, is it ?
How long do you think they,ll live ?
They,re probably entitled to the privilege having paid dues like other WORKING people.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7622866.stm

Look at the condititions these people lived in, and accepted. Do you know what " exiled " means ?


You must be joking........ like I said " complete rubbish ".

Digging up petty articles with no substance doesn,t really back up your statements. Think again. ( no insult intended )

"...Their days are spent making intricate embroidery, singing traditional Polish songs and dancing Polish dances. ..."

And you can't take photos of them as they think is steals their souls? Really? What, all day, every day?

Is that not a bit of condescending 19th century style journalism?

PWEI is getting amnesia from time to time.
In thread about Battle of Britain we were talking about claims of sq 303.
He is comparing daily claims against German records of losses, wich were lowered. He is forgetting that in some days whole RAF were claiming more shot Germans than German's loses.

good point

and that is normal as pilots would often shoot at multiple planes and if they saw one of them crash then you would have several people claiming they had shot down a plane. One of the reasons for the Germans changing tactics in the battle of Britain was that their pilots were doing the same thing and Goering was convinced the RAF was on its last legs based on reports he was getting from the Luftwaffe. When the Luftwaffe flew into Mallorey's Big Wing, they were amazed where all the British planes had magically appeared from

They are all very old people 90 , 80 years old , what do you think they should do ?

Dance, apparently.

here is a link for free download of free book :

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where you can find interesting facts concerning the subject of this thread .

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OK, let's take your number: you claimed two million plus, so where are the remaining +1,260,000?


I said nothing about numbers: I said that some were where they had been since they'd left the Polish army.
You want to speak about who pays for whom, you source facts. Until then, kindly withdraw and apologise.


Interesting that to you the BBC publishes "petty articles" and that the British government agency which pays for the Poles makes statements "with no substance". Really dude: you just got your arse handed to you who has forgotten more about this subject than you'll ever know: walk away with a shred of integrity intact. No insult intended.

Polmed, is it possible for you to make one, accurate, unbiased, statement, ever???

Your idiocy is so appalling that I can`t believe that it can exist : READ my post nb 93 - remaining troops were in underground army and partisan army and also intelligence ..

I am not going to spoil my weekend with your trollish posts . So go ahead and search for yourself for more information about these two formations.

Here is a link to polish war underground :

you can google translate this websites

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armia_Krajowa
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polskie_Pa%C5%84stwo_Podziemne



dumnizpolski.pl/content/view/54/36/

Look how huge was the structure of polish underground and it was divided by :rightist formations like AK , ZWZ , NSZ and also leftist formations like BCH

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polski_ruch_oporu_w_czasie_II_wojny_%C5%9Bwiatowej


gdynia.mm.pl/~drake87/drake87/2/27/2716.html



Now get away , you troll.

It is just a structure of Polish Underground State :

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polskie_Pa%C5%84stwo_Podziemne

According to the source you offer up as the word of God, there were 340,000 in the Polish underground army: those men are counted in the 880,000. Are you claiming that there were 1,112,000 in the Polish intelligence?!


Well done, you found a source which says there were 160,000 more than in your previous source: now you are only 952,000 short on your claim of two million. Although we should of course subtract the 375,000 Poles who joined the Nazi army, so we can assess Poland's net contribution to the war.

I sometimes wonder if some Poles blaming Britain for things such as Poland becoming communist is due to their utter ignorance of history and refusal to accept historical facts: you certainly offer very good support for that theory.

You troll may add to that number you deliberately omitted +500 000 troops in underground forces + 20 000 in intelligence units .

It is not me who claims but official sources :

ww2.pl/Polish,Military,Effort,during,Second,World,War,21.html

For the entire period of the war there also existed the very important "silent front" - the intelligence. Probably up to 2 millions Poles served since September 1st, 1939 to May 8th, 1945 in all the Polish military formations - regular armies, partisan troops and underground forces.