Is 5th partition of Poland possible? What kind? How? When?

The 'situation' here does not involve Poland illegally annexing Lviv or any other part of Ukrainaian sovereign territory.

Indeed no government here has suggested it, there is no political or popular will to do so and it would be in direct contravention of international law. Indeed the economic and political sanctions and travel restrictions that would result would be something Poland would not want to see.

Furthermore, as a historic champion of freedom and self determination (mostly...) Poland simply would not get involved in this.

It would be impossible for Poland to "illegally" annex its own sovereign property, art, and culture.


I could give tours in Lwów, and few other places in the Ukraine. Of note is the house on the Rynek in Lwów where Peter the Great, Tsar of Russia, signed a treaty of "eternal friendship" with the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Poland's rights are undeniable.


The Tatars in Crimea have suffered since Putin annexed Crimea. Many drink, and some even eat pork. I know someone with roots there. They aren't a problem.

Only in your head. You aren't going to get any support within Poland never mind internationally.

Indeed, however Ukraine is not Poland's "own sovereign property, art, and culture" and nobody credible has ever suggested that...


Poland's rights do not extend to invading Ukrainian territory and nobody (except yourself, an American with, shall we say, deeply eccentric ideas) has even suggested that.

To remind you, since you evidently have difficulty grasping the concept, Poland and Ukraine are friendly countries who respect each others borders. Neither sovereign state have any irredentist ambitions.

You remind me a bit of that crazy who used to post here with a similar user name, LegalEagle (which he was anything but) that believed or pretended to believe that Lech Wąłęsa was still president!

Hardly. Try talking to the ethnic Poles in the necropolis,The Cemetery of the Defenders of Lwów, at Łyczakowski Cemetary. One guy missing from here was buried in Warsaw at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Maybe you have ben there? Some guy named Vladimir Putin also recognizes Poland's rights to reclaim its borders before Stalin's crimes against humanity. Putin isn't done with Ukraine yet. He has only started with that failed stated.

Don't you think that you should visit a continent before you try to give tours of particular parts of it? Still, it's good to see that you know which country Lviv is in.


Poland's rights are indeed undeniable. However, Poland has no right to any part of Ukraine and no interest in any part of Ukraine. Perhaps when you finally visit Poland and speak to Polish people you'll understand that.

"The Ukraine" is a region, not a country.

Read much?

The more kacaps die in the process and the more economic damage this Mongoloid does to Russia, the better. Hopefully KO guys will go for independence then and with time ask to join Poland, would make a nice extra voivodeship.

Ukraine is a sovereign state recognised by Poland (and everywhere else) and Lviv is in Ukraine. No partition of either Ukraine or Poland is going to happen.

It's an outdated term only used nowadays by people that support Russian interests in Ukraine. Everyone else uses Ukraine, as it's the name of the country, not a region.

Anyway, no matter how much you try and claim otherwise, L'viv is the centre of Ukrainian nationalism and isn't going anywhere. The people there are very open and friendly towards Poles, but they're not going to join Poland.

Poland is not Russia. It does not invade and/or participate in chopping neighboring countries.

what about Poland's participation to Irak war in order to follow their friend bush? ;)

For sure, Poland is not Russia and vice versa! Pure common sense! Just looking at the map and also at Putin's vs Duda's (Komorowski's or whomever in Poland) part in world affairs confrms it. Putin no matter what is together with the President of the US, the German Chancelor, the President of France, the UK Prime Minister and to some extent the President of China, a top player. Russia, is among the 5 nations with permanent seat at the UN (the others being the US, China, UK and France). Russia also has the atomic bomb etc etc..

(PS: I hate Putin. However I don't hate Russia and the Russians. As also I have never been to Russia and I don't speak Russian, I don't dare talking about Russia. Yet, I cannot ignore Russia's power)

In another thread you recently said that if Poles fail to recognize historical moment and stay within EU, Poland is lost. You added that a merciless assimilation onto some other nations will take place and then another partition of Poland.

Hmm, there are certain mysteries how it os going to happen. Assimilation can be successful but only after a lof of conditions are fulfilled. E..g, the common language. Which one do you think will become the lingua franca in Europe? French because of historical connotations? English because of its popularity? Or German because of Germany being the most important in the EU? How about Polish?


That was written in 2013. After 6 years, it is obvious that a mass purchase of land by foreigners didn`t take place.