To the Ethnic Polish People here, the Gentile Slav/Sarmatians Learn about your own Heritage and your National History for yourselves from Polish People who are for you and who will build you up. The foreigners here are never for you, and that other self separated ethnicity does not consider you kashrut. The language in Poland is Polish, [why? mystery!]. EUese is always translated into Polish, [why? who knows?]. "Polish death camps", means camps specially created by Poles, where Polish killers exterminated prisoners. 'German death camps' is as specific and factual, [not all German murderers were Nazi, but all were enthusiastic]. Not too many Dutch death camps nor French death camps nor Slovak death camps, [why? not nice!]. "Polish Hair Salon" means a shop where beautiful coiffure is liquidated. Polonophobia and Anti-Polonism is alive here amongst outsiders who want something for nothing by twisting. Outsiders don't know Polish History and don't care. It is also strange and complicated, and "beyond the pale". Insisting on getting it STRAIGHT is the business of every Polish Person, and those who are piecing together the Eastern jig-saw puzzle. - Germans never declared war on Poland. The invasion was for Lebensraum. All Polish men, women and children were to be exterminated. Killing for any reason was permitted. German settlers could kill the evicted Polish families.
German civilians conducted largest massacres in first months of WWII. Piasnica = 6,000. Szpedowsk = 7,000. Kocborwo Hospital = 1,692. Grudenz = 6,500. Mniszek = 12,000. Karlshof = 8,000, [15 Nov]. Germans formed militias and roamed towns and countryside killing Polish women and children after the Polish men were gone. 30,000 in first months. There were German "Execution Tourists".
The actual figure will never be known, but, x 10 = closer to reality. The Jews swore allegiance to the Germans and were spared as they were not Polish. At first. Didn't work for them; they got Karma, for sure.
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1939 was the year German troops pressed into Gleiwitz/Gliwice and declared Poland to be German territory, one year to the day following the invasion of the Sudetenland! Poland didn't invade Germany. She couldn't and she knew it also.
It most certainly was an invasion, dress it up any way you like...Lebensraum/-born or no Lebensraum!!!
>The language in Poland is Polish, [why? mystery!].
Yes,
>"Polish death camps", means camps specially created by Poles, where Polish killers exterminated prisoners.
No! The words "Polish Death Camps" are ENGLISH words, not Polish words, and so are not the language of Poland, which your first comment agrees! We can agree on that.
Polish has its own words for "deaths camps in Poland" and "Polish Death camps" but they're not necessarily a direct or accurate translation of the English words and its usage.
So by poorly translating the English into Polish, PiS seem to think they have detected some sort of crime of error, when the ACTUAL error is in their own understanding of the Polish translation from the English. There is no original error in the English - the error comes in the translation. The English words "Polish Death Camps" does not mean "camps specially created by Poles, where Polish killers exterminated prisoners" like you say and seem to think. English usage can depend a lot on context and nuance. A native speaker knows what the phrase means, and PiS trying to 'educate' them in their own misunderstanding just makes them appear to be fools.
@TheOther, when most histories refer to "The Nazi Invasion of Poland", they're usually referring to 1939, which was around the time of the Night of Broken Glass throughout the Reich, and NOT to the military takeover of the so-called "Polish Corridor"!
There's sometimes confusion on this point, since Poland was in fact invaded twice within the last twenty years, including 1939:-)
Poland seems to be prioritising Kosovo over Serbia. So maybe not so valuable after all.
No, its only sign that official Poland, same as previous ruling political block, losing connection with Polish public, which massively support Serbian sovereignty.
It also means that official Poland more and more isolating itself from rest of Visegrad Group.
56% of Poles are in favor of recognising Kosovo as a state, only 23% against. So Poland's government seems to reflecting the people's wishes on this matter.
Let me explain. Those Poles who support partition of Serbia (ie independence of Kosovo) are germanized. They would be de-Germanised eventually.
56% of Poles are in favor of recognising Kosovo as a state, only 23% against. So Poland's government seems to reflecting the people's wishes on this matter.
Welcome to the real world, Crow.
I don`t buy it. I would wait till the next elections or coup.
No, let me explain. Everyone agrees that Kaczynski is the the policy maker in the Polish govt. His President is Duda, his Prime Minister is Szydło. They lead a nationalist conservative govt. They are eurosceptic, anti-German, and populist. They despise the previous govt, and seem to be wanting to undue many of their policies. Are you seriosuly saying that Kaczynski is somehow a Germanized Pole (whatever that means)?
If ever there was a Polish govt that would reject recognition of Kosovo, and had the motives and opportunity to do so, then it is now, IF they thought it was considered an important issue for Poles (populism), and IF it was considered an important issue for Poland strategically (alliance with your glorious Slavic bloc), and IF they thought that Civic Platform had made a mistake in recognising Kosovo in 2008.
But instead, today they recognise Kosovo not only as a state, but urge it to be a member of the EU, thereby safeguarding its statehood and discounting Serbian claims for the forseeable future.
That tells you that both the left and right of Polish politics cares little about Serbia, reflecting their population on the left and right of politics. Serbia is clearly an irrelevance to most Poles and to the Poland nation. You need to accept that.
Serbia is clearly an irrelevance to most Poles and to the Poland nation. You need to accept that.
How I understand things, politicians as politicians, wants to live and rule. That goes for Poland`s politicians, too. So, when Serbia starting to winning, they would feel necessity to respect Serbia. As for Polish public, well, I believe that are problems of every day life in the focus of Poles, no matter that they, I believe by all signals, feel empathy for Serbian cause. All in all, judging by politics of official Poland, Polish public would be shaken and awaken.
That is misleading. It's not a partition but a realistic recogntion of Kosovo's actual current ethnic makw-up. In a referendum how many in Kosovo would vote to be under the serbian boot again?
So, when Serbia starting to winning, they would feel necessity to respect Serbia.
Yes, but one could say something very similar, that when unicorns start forming vast successful communities, Polish politicians might feel the need to respect unicorns. Unicorns start forming vast successful communities is about as likely to happen. The main difference is that Poles like unicorns, which may in part be due to the fact that, unlike Serbs, unicorns didn't collaborate with the Germans and play an active role in the Holocaust.
Well then, gumishu, would you've preferred that they served in an overwhelmingly higher-level capacity?? How about no capacity at all:-) Don't see your point. lol
That is normal. See, same way as Poland was betrayed by Anglos and left to communists, that also happened to Yugoslavia and Serbia. So, considering that royalists and communists were confronted (Tito promoted socialist revolution and declared to fight for communism after world war is over, while Chetnik royalists were for restoration of monarchy), they mutually engaged in open and propaganda war, while also fought the Nazis and from time to time wee forced to collaborate with them (see, Germans used to kill one Serbian for every killed German and periods of ceasefire were necessary).
Kragujevac massacre is flagrant example of that German policy
21. October 1941. The German massacre in Kragujevac: one more unpunished crime theremustbejustice.wordpress.com/2013/10/20/21-october-1941-german-massacre-in-kragujevac-one-more-unpunished-crime/
The Kragujevac massacre was the massacre of over 5,000 civilians - men, women and schoolchildren - in Kragujevac, Serbia, Yugoslavia by the soldiers of Nazi Germany, on 20 October 1941. It was one of the worst massacres during German military occupation of Serbia.
The Germans had threatened to shoot 50 Serbs for every wounded German soldier and 100 for each killed. They were attacked in early October near Gornji Milanovac so the massacre was a direct reprisal for the German losses in that battle.
History remembered that during massacre, few German soldiers, ethnic Lusatian Serbs, refused to obey to orders and shot at people. They were then as well executed.
First he was communist and then came in conflict with his own man and massacred them. Then, he joined to Chetniks claiming that is he now for King. He then betrayed again and opted to cooperate with Nazis and Croatian ustashe in `Kozara genocide` hunt on his own Serbian people. He distinguished himself to the maximum by showing to Nazis and to ustashe where are hidden places of Serbian woman and children.
I don`t know what to tell. Every people has its own traitors. This Rade Radic was traitor on the double. Worse possible scum.
I only don`t know what this hairy Harry want to prove with posts about Rade Radic. Tragic failed man. After world war he was captured and hanged by his own people for treason. If it was possible Serbs would hang him not once but trice.
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