No Nazi puppet regime in Poland?

For those interested, here is a list of the Nazis' 'Polish' collaborators:
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategoria:Polscy_kolaboranci_III_Rzeszy

In english: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Polish_collaborators_with_Nazi_Germany

all 20 of them... :))

Problem is if they really count as collaborateurs in the common sense.


Of course they supported the enemy of the nation they were citizens of but patriotic Poles did the same during the partitions, fighting against Prussia for France for example.

If those non-ethnical polish citizens felt allegiance to Germany I don't think it can be seen as collaboration or betrayal...IMHO....or what do Poles think?

I think... could be seen as betrayal, as they were Polish citizens. But in a rather legalistic sense.

Collaboration is reserved for doubtless Poles.

And I still have that question of Volksliste III in Silesia. I heard, from witnesses, that Silesians were 'enlisted' automatically. You are positive about that absolutely voluntary thing?

Yes, as there was no automatically enlisting.

In the beginning 39/40/41 it might even have been quite hard to get onto the Liste I, you had to show papers and stuff.
But in the end they took really everybody...here also some not so voluntarily "recruiting" surely happend.

Not to mention that Silesia itself was splitted, the upper part with a majority of Poles and the lower part with a majoritiy of Germans...to treat Silesia as one just wouldn't had made much sense.

could be this. And there is some info of Silesians deserting from Wehrmacht, so like independent confirmation.


Right. I was speaking about Upper Silesia.

Edit:

Szczepaniak from Kattowitz-Sud... I am from there :)

The world is small! :)

How could Germans put a fellow named Szczepaniak on a Deutsche volksliste is beyond me!

I can only imagine the pain of the German office clerk who had to write it to prepare the ausweis :)
...

But see the first name: Franz. Full-blooded German, innit :)

Frantzischek. Sounds German enough to me. Or Czech...

Oh god thank you for this link Torqi...I searched for it for awhile now...always good for a laugh!

Sure. Just like Franz Smuda ;)


Yes - an oldskool Polish comedy. I watched it about a hundred times when I was a kid :)

To the best of my knowledge, there wasn`t.
Hitler never thought of creating a Polish puppet regime.

If he had tried, there would have been volunteers from pre-war Polish fascist parties.

:) you may not know it, but Brunner had quite a crowd of fans in Poland. If you know what I mean :)

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Not quite sure. Fascist meant nationalistic, not pro-Hitler. Like ONR.

Fascists in Spain, in Holland, in France in GB and even as far as the USA etc. had been fans of Hitler...they took his national-socialism as ideal for their countries too...it was really a widespread alliance.

/wiki/Fascism

They were nationalists first but in following Hitler and in helping to make Nazi-Germany victorious
they hoped to be victorious at home too.
European and american Fascists saw Hitler as their best bet.

But Poles are, you know, different :) I mean, German aircraft didn't shoot at refugees on the roads of Spain, Holland, etc.