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Life in communism vs democracy in Poland


Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11914  
31 Dec 2009 /  #61
democracy is you have all the choices but can't afford them

Many people can afford many choices....

corporations and government screwing you, politicians lying to you

You can do something about it if you care enough...in communism you can only moan...quietly...very quietly...
nomaderol  5 | 726  
31 Dec 2009 /  #62
products of capitalist democratic world

if you are orgasming when looking at these pictures, you are likely a wealthy capitalist

if you are closing your eyes when looking at these pictures, you are likely an idiot supporting this difference
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11914  
31 Dec 2009 /  #63
if you are orgasming when looking at these pictures, you are likely a wealthy capitalist

Uh...let me choose...do I prefer to be a wealthy capitalist or do I want to run after the monthly ration (evenly distributed between the proletariat of course) of toilet paper...hmmmm.....tough choice!
nomaderol  5 | 726  
31 Dec 2009 /  #64
products of capitalist democratic world

if you are orgasming when looking at these pictures, you are likely a wealthy capitalist

if you are closing your eyes when looking at these pictures, you are likely an idiot supporting this difference


  • poor.jpg

  • rich.jpg
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11914  
31 Dec 2009 /  #65
You know Nomaderol, no socialist/communist system in Europe did ever a thing for the hungry black children either...so cut the crap.
nomaderol  5 | 726  
31 Dec 2009 /  #66
there is no socialism/communism in europe.. europe is fully capitalist. hence, living crisis.
only capitalist world being shaken by this crisis. dont see only, look carefully also
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11914  
31 Dec 2009 /  #67
there is no socialism/communism in europe.. europe is fully capitalist.

For 60 years there was...enough time to show that it was a failure!
Do you think Africa was a full fed paradise back then???

only capitalist world being shaken by this crisis.

ROFL
In what world are you living?
The socialists systems were broke, totally broke...the reason for them going bankrott!
nomaderol  5 | 726  
31 Dec 2009 /  #68
capitalist mentality is based on selfishness and make the difference as much as possible as seen in the pictures above which reflect the world under capitalist mentality. democracy? when you eagerly vote for hopes to be rich and your votes are gotten and used by riches it is called democracy in capitalism.. capitalism has failed hundreds of times in the past. socialism has not lived yet. it was russsian nationalism that used socialism concept to become a superpower and they did it.. but, this time, capitalism eating itself as seen in this global crisis. (countries like cuba, venezuela least affected countries by this crisis unlike usa, western europe, japan, dubai etc where capitalism is at its highest greeds.)
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
31 Dec 2009 /  #69
One way to end crisis: all the nations print as much money as we need and give it to us. If everyone did that, we would all have money and there wouldn't be any resentment or bad feeling between people.
mephias  10 | 296  
31 Dec 2009 /  #70
nomaderol

This time I agree with Bratwurst, socialism/communism is not applicable. It looks good in theory level but it is against the human nature. People make choices and they should have right to change their life according to their choices.
ShawnH  8 | 1488  
31 Dec 2009 /  #71
capitalism has failed hundreds of times in the past

Failed in what ways?

socialism has not lived yet

It likely never will on a grand scale.

like cuba, venezuela least affected countries by this crisis

And their citizens can be counted as among the impoverished of the world, while their leaders go along, fat and happy.
nomaderol  5 | 726  
31 Dec 2009 /  #72
print the money paper?... do it.. it will put final hit to kill capitalism.. world leaders arent smart enough to do that.. they are squeezed. some of those who have big guns like nukes may start to push war buttons which i wont be surprised at all. insane capitalist mentality can not do anything good other than killing millions under bombs and they orgasm when doing this.. really they do so. maniacs. hope they start the war, but, they are cowards.
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
31 Dec 2009 /  #73
print as much money as we need

During the height of hyperinflation in 1992-1993, the Central Bank actually tried to derail reforms by actively printing money during a period of inflation. After all, the Russian government was short of revenue and was forced to print money to finance its debt. As a result, inflation exploded into hyperinflation, and the Russian economy continued in a serious slump.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_post-Soviet_Russia#Reform_by_decree

And their citizens can be counted as among the impoverished of the world, while their leaders go along, fat and happy.

He must mean being a leader? ;)
mephias  10 | 296  
31 Dec 2009 /  #74
nomaderol

Crysis don't effect as much people as you think life still continues. But it would be terrible for me if I don't have chance to change my job for instance so that happily I am not living under communist rule. Other systems may have negative sides but if you compare it with communism you can easily ignore them.
nomaderol  5 | 726  
31 Dec 2009 /  #75
stop showing, referencing russian communism. it was a nationalism which used socialism concept to be superpower. it is not different than ottomans who used islam to become superpower. same story. world socialism has never been tried, but, world capitalism has been tried over and over. before, it was capitalist monarchy and now capitalist democracy.. failures continue.

Failed in what ways?

whats reason of all wars in history and two big world wars? all about capturing the wealths of earth. this is capitalism. failed hundreds of times.
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
31 Dec 2009 /  #76
all about capturing the wealths of earth. this is capitalism.

Are you talking about capitalism?
The thread is about Life in communism vs democracy in Poland.

And if your point is that ''pure communism'' was never in Poland, then you could also make the point that ''pure capitalism'' doesn't exist today.
mephias  10 | 296  
31 Dec 2009 /  #77
world socialism has never been tried,

Luckily it hasn't. It is not applicable and the world is going into correct direction "more freedom".
lesser  4 | 1311  
31 Dec 2009 /  #78
capitalist mentality is based on selfishness

Selfishness is a virtue, to a certain degree of course. This is one of the things that push this world forward. If most of people would be idealistic altruists by all means then we would still live in caves. There is unhealthy selfishness behind socialism as well. Why unhealthy? Because socialist demand property of other people and such attitude is considered negatively all over the world. Use your talents to earn money rather than become a social parasite.
ShawnH  8 | 1488  
31 Dec 2009 /  #79
whats reason of all wars in history and two big world wars? all about capturing the wealths of earth. this is capitalism. failed hundreds of times.

And what precipitated the genocides of countless peoples?

Cambodia, Darfur, Rwanda, Russian, Yugoslavia, Iraq? Surely not all the fault of Capitalism?
nomaderol  5 | 726  
31 Dec 2009 /  #80
The thread is about Life in communism vs democracy in Poland.

there was no communism in poland. it was russian nationalism that used socialism.

there is no democracy in poland. if big majority of people of poland is happy now about their own economy, then, you can say there is democracy. i am sure big majority is unhappy. democracy is about how you want to live, it is not to live how a few want to live and support them. however, hopefuls who consider themselves smart to be in a few rich people can also be considered as idiot democrats.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11914  
31 Dec 2009 /  #81
i am sure big majority is unhappy.

What makes you think so?

democracy is about how you want to live,

Exactly!

That's why communism lost and capitalism wins with the people!
You still can be a communist in a capitalist, democratic society...nobody cares (as long as you don't kill people).
But for being capitalist or anti-communist in a communist society you get punished!

20 years back people decided with their feet...
nomaderol  5 | 726  
31 Dec 2009 /  #82
Selfishness is a virtue, to a certain degree of course. This is one of the things that push this world forward.

yes, it makes luxury and race cars,,, but, it cant help finding a simple cure to cancers.
no more info from true socialists. capitalists can die in pain. or, they can enjoy their luxury yachts while you poor idiots are mouthwatering by voting for their system.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11914  
31 Dec 2009 /  #83
it cant help finding a simple cure to cancers.

Socialism did???

No it didn't...many brainy ones legged it to the capitalist west on the other hand at the first chance...

you poor idiots are mouthwatering by voting for their system.

At least I get asked...

The socialists systems didn't really ask...they got always 99% approval from their happy people! *ha ha ha*
mephias  10 | 296  
31 Dec 2009 /  #84
there is no democracy in poland.

You mean now ? What you make you think of that ?

there is no democracy in poland. if big majority of people of poland is happy now about their own economy

How you are so sure ? You should make an election to know it.
ShawnH  8 | 1488  
31 Dec 2009 /  #85
World Happiness. Guess the Capitalist countries....
nomaderol  5 | 726  
31 Dec 2009 /  #86
Socialism did???

go and learn cuba hospitals. maybe not to cancer yet, but to many illnesses that capitalist world dont know the cure yet, but, cuba.

science in socialism has always been better than capitalist mentality world that doesnt think anything but their luxury yachts and how to make them better.
lesser  4 | 1311  
31 Dec 2009 /  #87
there was no communism in poland. it was russian nationalism that used socialism.

This is why Russian nationalists were wiped out in the SU? The most famous Russian nationalist was Alexander Solzhenitsyn who wrote long books about communist crimes. Instead to blame Russian people (what is extremely boring btw), you should finally admit that socialism lead to oppressive dictatorship.

democracy is about how you want to live

and also how you want to force other to live. Keep this in mind because this is actually the most important part of democracy.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11914  
31 Dec 2009 /  #88
but to many illnesses that capitalist world dont know the cure yet

Really??? Which ones...

*waits expectantly*

PS: You know that there is a rising dissident movement in Cuba too, yes? The moment the old wolf Castro is done Cuba is a goner for the socialist world...wanna bet?
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
31 Dec 2009 /  #89
Who votes against democracy, Hands up!
mephias  10 | 296  
31 Dec 2009 /  #90
science in socialism has always been better than capitalist mentality world that doesnt think anything but their luxury yachts and how to make them better.

I don't think so. Competition brings better service/product. Do you have a proof for this statement. (I don't think you have just things you've heard).

Who votes against democracy, Hands up!

My vote goes for democracy :).

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