Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations?

The tittle is wrong, the OP has done no search and I guess the rest is not familiar with the issue, except for Fairness, a Holocaust Industry proponent.

The issue is this. Jewish organizations want Poland's taxpayers to pay, first 65 billion, but that is negotiable, for heirless Jewish property during and after the war.


haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1090024.html

The argument is that one Jew's property is the property of all Jews, alive and those unborn.

So, there was a coference recently: radio.cz/en/article/117848

Of course there is the usual - it's for the survivors shtick.

In this week's JPost we read:


They indeed need money, it appears. Germany, Austria, and Switzerland have paid untold billions and the survivors live in poverty in Israel.

Sounds like a rackett but:

I've asked on more than one occasion to get it back to Jews and reparation but to no avail. Ah well, one part of me hopes that it will swing round and hit them on the face but justice says that it shouldn't and that Poles won't have to pay anything. Why should they?

They shouldn't. Heirless property reverts to the state.

Survivors are the last on their mind: haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1038408.html

So even heirs get no satisfaction in Israel.

1. Davies claims that it was "on the very eve of the parade. But on this he is clearly wrong: a statement made in parliament before that day hansard.millbanksystems.com/written_answers/1946/jun/04/victor y-march#S5CV0423P0_19460604_CWA_169 is all about Poles being invited to the parade.

2. They were not sent at that time. See the above statement.
3. According to Davies it was to the Commander-in-Chief, Gen. Boor[sic], who had been in Britain most of the previous year; and other invitations were sent to the chiefs of the Polish Air Force and the Polish Navy and to individual generals. On this point the memoirs of General Anders (along with numerous other sources, such as the one you have already linked to) show that Davies was also wrong: Polish pilots were also invited.

4. Those referred to in point 3 declined their invitations but according to Davies not all Poles were so insulting to the nation that they now expected to feed, clothe and house them.

5. According to Davies Poles did indeed participate in the parade.
6. According to Davies, Commander-in-Chief, Gen. Boor[sic] the chiefs of the Polish Air Force and the Polish Navy and individual generals did not participate. However Polish pilots and groundcrew did take part in the parade.

Sorry to destroy your long-lasting lie. Better luck with the next one. Perhaps you should consider actually setting foot in Poland before you try to teach us about Polish history?


How strange to see you recommending a book which one reviewer described as giving "the most charitable interpretation possible concerning such subjects as the Polish government's policies toward Jews in the interwar period, and its ethnic cleansing of Germans and Ukrainians after the war."

Harry you post like a Brocken record

No doubt. Just business.

Sure, just business and if we can cash in on some Poles, all the better, that's hobby.

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M-G (grin)

I disregard such blurb-like 'reviews' - call me naive, but I like to draw my own conclusions.

Seems to me that Ozi Dan is just as entitled to an opinion as that "one reviewer" you cite.

Can't you guys just collect stamps or do some gardening instead of stirring up dislike toward Jews? I forgot, there are other Jewish groups cashing in on the antisemitism scare.

Don't you find it disturbing that 80,000 Holocaust survivors live below poverty level in Israel?

What I find disturbing is that they do so DESPITE the BILLION$ given to (Apartheid) Israel.

Funny how the Jewish Banking Elite that profited from WWII don't see fit to help their own.

No, you little anti-semite, I don't think that's disturbing. What I do think is disturbing is that the Catholic Church apparantly condones child abuse and you seem to condone child abuse too. That is disturbing.


Go back into your basket.

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M-G (getting tired of those racist Poles)

Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations?

Why?

Because other nations let them get away with such nonsense.

Has Poland given them any money other than chump change?

No?...Well, this is good and will probably continue...Time to move on in life don't you think?

Unfortunately, for all talk to the contrary, Israel's economy doesn't produce much.

You know, an Irish-American business man mention to me the other day: 'This 'holocaust' thing...Were only Jews killed in large numbers in WWII?'...Then he say 'They always talk about 6 million, 5 million: But there were only a few hundred thousand Jews in the whole of Germany!'

And guess what?...Most Jews tire of this nonsense...It is the swindler's who profit from this 'blood money'...1000s of Jews who actually did suffer have had their money stolen by Israeli agencies that were supposed to be working for them!

Funny YOU should say that.


Tiens, the Holocaust didn't concern only Germany...

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M-G (tiens)

Today, the 'holocaust' concerns only the fast buck artist.

Yes Joe, we are only after your dough.

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M-G (tiens)

If Israel does not care for their own, why should anyone else, but you know that these organizations use the survivors's situation as an emotional bargaining chip only to get rich. What filth.


What does that have to do with this topic?

As a sort of a Jew, you should be more concerned about rabbis buggering little kids. Plenty of that in the news. Need links?

If you're going to post on this thread, try to respond to the issue at hand, if you have an opinion.

You didn't notice the sarcasm? Hm. But I guess in this case it's the same dislike that ppl generally feel towards lenders when it's time to pay back the money they lent.

Let me tell you: my anchestors had a huge villa. During the war it was confiscated by the same Dutch Nazi-neighbour who had betrayed them to the Germans. After the war, it turned out that my grandfather was the sole survivor, the Dutch state confiscated it again. My granddad never saw one penny nor was he offered his family estate back by the government. Not that he wanted to, psychologically damaged by the wounds the war had made to his soul, but they also never offered it to him, although they knew he was the owner de facto.

He never felt hatred towards the State. It just bores me to bits to know that every excuse is being used to explain distrust, dislike of of Jews. Get ready for the future I would say and don't indulge yourself in the past. The past's the past and leave it at that. Everybody else does, so why can't the Poles?

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M-G (tiens)

You are confusing the issues. Heirless property is just that, without heirs. Jewish property without heirs does not belong to Jewish organizations in America. Got it, my little matzo ball?

Why?

You're not paying attention, Bzi.

Or rather this whole story makes no sense.

I notice that if you don't understand sth it quickly doesn't make sense to you :) The Dutch State confiscated the property because it was a Dutch Nazi who had stolen it. And after the war most stolen properties were confiscated and given back to their rightful owners, if still alive.

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M-G (tiens)

nice retort. now, refute. :)

MG,the topic is Jewish organizations trying to fleece Poland. Must you defend everything Jewish just on principle? I want to hear from you that you see this as a scam. Be objective.

Worth Repeating...

Of course it's a scam, the whole world knows that it's a scam to try to get some dough over the backs of dead ppl. And I think the scammers should be proscecuted like any other scammer. Beëlzebub didn't seem to understand my metaphore, so I explained it to her. Ad sec.

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M-G (never defending scammers)

Jola is pleased and regrets calling you a little matzo ball. :)

So why your grandfather's villa was not returned if he survived?


and I notice that your explanations usually have big holes :)

Good question, nowhere in the documents this is made really clear. I guess it has sth to do with the landmark value of the building (well, that wasn't really a longlasting pleasure: the building burned to the ground in 1960). The Dutch governmental archive-service wasn't really co-operative when trying to figure this out.


You just have to read well. ;)

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M-G (tiens)

Either you are not telling the whole story or there is something not very kosher here.


Don't worry; you are still my favorite most punchable deranged little liberal nitwit on the PF :)