That TDS really has them grasping for straws, its funny how they believe all the fake news hook, line and sinker!
Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations?
DIrk, what past wrongs did Jews en masse commit other than being the political bargaining chips of European aristocracy; bring them in when they're need, kill then off of harass them to death when they're no longer deemed useful??!
You've got your lense cap ass backwards, dude.
You've got your lense cap ass backwards, dude.
Rich Mazur 4 | 2894
16 Feb 2019 / #663
bring them in when they're need,
Why would Poland need Jews?
That TDS really has them grasping for straws, its funny how they believe all the fake news hook, line and sinker!
Trump followers know the truth! The Joker has spoken...
Rich Mazur 4 | 2894
16 Feb 2019 / #665
I feel ignored with your attention all on Joker. Not fair.
So, how about answering my question in #658?
Please, don't tell me that I can google it myself because that will not tell me how YOU came to this conclusion about Pence.
So, how about answering my question in #658?
Please, don't tell me that I can google it myself because that will not tell me how YOU came to this conclusion about Pence.
Torq
16 Feb 2019 / #666
No. You just made it up.
It is rather strange to deny the existence of atheist Catholics - there are so many of them that one would have to be blind not to see them.
They are pretty much the same as atheist Jews - they identify with Catholicism, belong to the Church formally, they even participate in some religious events (like baptisms, church funerals and weddings) and describe themselves as Catholics - in Germany they even PAY THE CHURCH TAX, but they don't believe in God (which is a rather good reason to consider them atheists, isn't it?), and treat the aforementioned religious events as cultural things/family traditions. They are self-declared Catholics and self-declared atheists. I know several of them myself.
The phenomenon was very well described by Franco Garelli in his book Religion the Italian Way - most of what he wrote there about Italian Catholic-atheists can be applied to Polish Catholic-atheists as well.
conclusion about Pence
Just to make his positions clear:
Speech at AIPAC 2009:
"...my Christian faith compels me to cherish the state of Israel"
"I have long believed Israel is our most cherished ally ... Indiana made clear that we will not do business with those who seek to inflict financial damage on the people of Israel."
timesofisrael.com/likely-trump-vp-cherishes-israel-met-netanyahu-passed-anti-boycott-laws/
Rich Mazur 4 | 2894
16 Feb 2019 / #668
"...my Christian faith compels me to cherish the state of Israel"
OK, but where is his "hate" you claimed?
johnny reb 48 | 7952
16 Feb 2019 / #669
It is rather strange to deny the existence of atheist Catholics -
In the church or of the church ?
If they are IN the church going through the motions of the upper and downers for whatever reason then they could very well be atheists.
If they are OF the church and say 'The Apostles Creed' then they are not atheists unless they are lying.
delphiandomine 86 | 17823
16 Feb 2019 / #670
The Jewish demands are completely and utterly nonsensical for several reasons:
They're not even Jewish demands, but American Jewish demands. From what I can gather from the Israeli internet, there's a lot of resentment towards these guys because they do nothing to help actual Israelis in need.
The one good thing is that almost everyone in Poland seems to be agreed on telling them to go to hell.
johnny reb 48 | 7952
16 Feb 2019 / #671
They're not even Jewish demands, but American Jewish demands.
There is a big difference between Judaism and Zionism.
Shitonya Brits
16 Feb 2019 / #672
They're not even Jewish demands, but American Jewish demands.
Too funny!
There are hundreds of thousands of American Jews living in Israel.
American Jews in the USA lobby their Congress all the time to send billions of dollars over to Israel while American roads, bridges, schools and hospitals crumble and US Veterans go homeless and sleep rough on the streets.
The Israelis put those billions into their military death machine.
That leaves billions they don't have to spend on defence. Israel puts the billions saved into cradle to grave social programs for Jews only.
But it's not enough since Israelis are always in the US seeking more blood and treasure from Americans.
It's not resentment. It's ingratitude.
Shitonya Brits
17 Feb 2019 / #673
How did this thread go from Jews pestering Poland for reparations to Germans complaining about Poland seeking reparations?
I'll take things back on topic!
From the OP:
Yes!
Now read this haaretz.com/.premium-ashkenazi-gene-increases-schizophrenia-1.5294333
Scientists Discover Gene That Predisposes Ashkenazi Jews to Schizophrenia
The reason for choosing Ashkenazi Jews as the subject for the study, of all groups available, is rooted in the fact that Ashkenazi Jews are considered to be a an especially homogenous group, in terms of genetics.
That's right baby! Pale and stale! No diversity!
Positive symptoms of Schizophrenia:
- Hallucinations
- Delusions
-Thought disorders (unusual or dysfunctional ways of thinking)
Cognitive symptoms of Schizophrenia:
- Poor "executive functioning" (the ability to understand information and use it to make decisions)
- Trouble focusing or paying attention
- Problems with "working memory" (the ability to use information immediately after learning it)
So how do we fix this mess?
It's a mental health issue so give Jewish reparation seekers free mental health treatment.
Simples!
I'll take things back on topic!
From the OP:
Weren't Jews compensated greatly after the war? What are the Jews p'issed about?
Yes!
Now read this haaretz.com/.premium-ashkenazi-gene-increases-schizophrenia-1.5294333
Scientists Discover Gene That Predisposes Ashkenazi Jews to Schizophrenia
The reason for choosing Ashkenazi Jews as the subject for the study, of all groups available, is rooted in the fact that Ashkenazi Jews are considered to be a an especially homogenous group, in terms of genetics.
That's right baby! Pale and stale! No diversity!
Positive symptoms of Schizophrenia:
- Hallucinations
- Delusions
-Thought disorders (unusual or dysfunctional ways of thinking)
Cognitive symptoms of Schizophrenia:
- Poor "executive functioning" (the ability to understand information and use it to make decisions)
- Trouble focusing or paying attention
- Problems with "working memory" (the ability to use information immediately after learning it)
So how do we fix this mess?
It's a mental health issue so give Jewish reparation seekers free mental health treatment.
Simples!
Rich Mazur 4 | 2894
17 Feb 2019 / #674
- Hallucinations
- Delusions
-Thought disorders
- Delusions
-Thought disorders
Holy crap! American Democrats are all Ashkenazi Jews!
Shitonya Brits
17 Feb 2019 / #675
Hey Weimarer, the topic is about Jews pestering Poland not thin-skinned Germans like you with a chip on your shoulder.
I have no chip on my shoulder. Its the same topic. Beggars begging for money.
The topic say why are jews pestering Poland for WW II reparations? Same question is why poland pesters Germany for WW II reparations.
I cant complain something and do exactly the same.
The topic say why are jews pestering Poland for WW II reparations? Same question is why poland pesters Germany for WW II reparations.
I cant complain something and do exactly the same.
Dirk,
Jews were often needed for their supposed business acumen, invited to stay in countries such as Turkey, the Ottoman Empire, later on of course, Europe.
They were acknowledged for their skills and after their usefulness had been outlived, they too were given the boot.
You know the entire shameful history, don't let's pretend we're '60's children, challenging established facts and interpretations of history merely for shock value aka
"Why were Jews needed"?, etc. or similar childish prattle.
Jews were often needed for their supposed business acumen, invited to stay in countries such as Turkey, the Ottoman Empire, later on of course, Europe.
They were acknowledged for their skills and after their usefulness had been outlived, they too were given the boot.
You know the entire shameful history, don't let's pretend we're '60's children, challenging established facts and interpretations of history merely for shock value aka
"Why were Jews needed"?, etc. or similar childish prattle.
Shitonya Brits
17 Feb 2019 / #678
Hey Weimarer, it's not the same question. Jews are pestering Poland for reparations so you either agree with that or you don't.
You're changing the topic to Poland seeking reparations from Germany so the focus stays of any Jews.
Zionists do this all the time.
The thread is about Jewish groups badgering Poland for reparations when they don't deserve any. And the reality is that the global Jewish community always stays collectively silent because they blindly agree with what's going on even if they never see a penny of the money.
You're changing the topic to Poland seeking reparations from Germany so the focus stays of any Jews.
Zionists do this all the time.
The thread is about Jewish groups badgering Poland for reparations when they don't deserve any. And the reality is that the global Jewish community always stays collectively silent because they blindly agree with what's going on even if they never see a penny of the money.
Poland doesnt deserve any reparations as well. So it is same topic.
Why you think poles can feel attacked and annoyed by that rubbush but Germans not?
Why you think poles can feel attacked and annoyed by that rubbush but Germans not?
Shitonya Brits
17 Feb 2019 / #680
Drop the false equivalence Weimarer and read a factual history book.
Poland was attacked by Germany and not the other way around.
Germany destroyed Poland's cities and infrastructure and killed millions.
Now, back on topic, do you believe Jews are pestering Poland for reparations or not? Do you believe Jews deserve reparations from Poland? Yes or no?
It'll be very simple for you answer if you stay on topic rather than wasting everybody's time trying to take the focus off the Jews.
Poland was attacked by Germany and not the other way around.
Germany destroyed Poland's cities and infrastructure and killed millions.
Now, back on topic, do you believe Jews are pestering Poland for reparations or not? Do you believe Jews deserve reparations from Poland? Yes or no?
It'll be very simple for you answer if you stay on topic rather than wasting everybody's time trying to take the focus off the Jews.
Jews deserve reparations. The point is from which country. Poland technically was NOT an "aggressor" nation, that is, one of the Axis Powers. Germany was and therefore, as I've said before, has her cross to bear.
Do German non-Jews also deserve reparations? A tough sell, but naturally, even the "enemy" were not all in the same boat, and any average German suckered into the fight against THEIR "enemies" cannot be compared with a willing, unrepentant executioner, one of the surviving minions who did their Fueher's bidding willingly, e.g.
Oberlaender, Mengele, Clauberg etc.
There are degrees here, you know.
Do German non-Jews also deserve reparations? A tough sell, but naturally, even the "enemy" were not all in the same boat, and any average German suckered into the fight against THEIR "enemies" cannot be compared with a willing, unrepentant executioner, one of the surviving minions who did their Fueher's bidding willingly, e.g.
Oberlaender, Mengele, Clauberg etc.
There are degrees here, you know.
delphiandomine 86 | 17823
17 Feb 2019 / #682
Jews deserve reparations.
The problem is that it's not really Jews demanding it, but certain very well connected groups. A lot of ordinary Jewish people are deeply unhappy about them, because the money is spent on their first class international travel and five star hotels rather than on helping Jewish people.
Thank you for putting this issue into balanced perspective, for a change:-)
johnny reb 48 | 7952
17 Feb 2019 / #684
Do you believe Jews deserve reparations from Poland?
No, why would anyone expect an entitlement that they have not worked for.
And any of the jews that did deserve some kind of compensation are all dead and gone.
It is their money grubbing kids and grand kids and great grand kids that weren't even born yet that are hounding the people who help save them from extinction.
Like I said before..........
There is a big difference between Judaism and Zionism.
dolnoslask 5 | 2807
17 Feb 2019 / #685
money grubbing kids and grand kids
That's why I will never involve myself in obtaining reparations for my families losses, which were significant, leave the kids of today to live in peace and prosperity, let them build friendships without the shackles of the past.
johnny reb 48 | 7952
17 Feb 2019 / #686
Thank you dolno
That is exactly what my relatives fought for in WW2.....peace and prosperity and freedom to do it.
My father never even received as much as a purple heart for being all shot up.
In your case it was much worse than mine.
Why is it that we are not whining with our arm stretched out to the world.
This has become beyond annoying.
That is exactly what my relatives fought for in WW2.....peace and prosperity and freedom to do it.
My father never even received as much as a purple heart for being all shot up.
In your case it was much worse than mine.
Why is it that we are not whining with our arm stretched out to the world.
This has become beyond annoying.
@Shitonya Brits
We live in 2019. Poland deserves ****. Can Germany demand reparations from Sweden because 30 year war as well? Get real.
Polish killed jews, hunted them and collaborated. Thats a simple fact.
Has nothing to do with Polish today. So of course Poland should not pay raparations and the very same thing counts for Germany.
What do you think entitles you, to take money from me? My tax money, when all this happened even before my grandfather was born?
Why do you think you can steal from the current german generation for things that happened 3 to 4 generations before?
We live in 2019. Poland deserves ****. Can Germany demand reparations from Sweden because 30 year war as well? Get real.
Polish killed jews, hunted them and collaborated. Thats a simple fact.
Has nothing to do with Polish today. So of course Poland should not pay raparations and the very same thing counts for Germany.
What do you think entitles you, to take money from me? My tax money, when all this happened even before my grandfather was born?
Why do you think you can steal from the current german generation for things that happened 3 to 4 generations before?
Dirk diggler 10 | 4452
17 Feb 2019 / #688
Jews deserve reparations
Certainly not from Poland from anything that happened between 1939 and 1944 since the country was occupied by Nazi Germany.
Not that the Jews haven't got billions in reparations plus additional billions from the US every year. It's funny how we give billions to a country that has attacked and killed US soldiers and meddles in our elections in ways Russia could only dream of.
Shitonya Brits
17 Feb 2019 / #689
Why do you think you can steal from the current german generation for things that happened 3 to 4 generations before?
Like I keep telling you, the topic is about Jews pestering Poland for reparations.
To help makes this clear to you, Poland has a legitimate claim because the deliberate destruction caused by Germany took an enormous toll on Poland's economy and population and has left scars which haven't been compensated for spanning entire generations.
Jews have no valid claim against Poland at all; only wishful thinking akin to fools who play the lottery hoping for a huge windfall with very little put in.
Big difference!
Too bad we see all setteled and give nothing, call it illigitimate claim, an insult and attack.
Some also open the box to bring tze german territories into account, the value of the lands. Could well be, that Poland ows us reparations then.
We also have scars that lasted generations. Who compensates us?
Stop being filthy beggers.
Some also open the box to bring tze german territories into account, the value of the lands. Could well be, that Poland ows us reparations then.
We also have scars that lasted generations. Who compensates us?
Stop being filthy beggers.