Give back Lwow to Poland and Kaliningrad to Germany - is it possible?

no you are !


welcome great prophet


soon the city will crumble away - one problem less!

+1


I hope your being sarcastic ;)

how?

btw. zed is right.. this topic is as senseless as it gets

Poland will take it back by force. Ukraine is not a stable country in the not to distance future it should possible to achieve the goal of returning Lwow to Poland.

you planning on marching in there and killing people, pulling them out of their homes? have you been to afghanistan? any military experience, or are you just full of sh*t?

or are you going to leave that to "Poland"?

"truth is I'm just a big mouthed talker..."

No Ukrainians lived in Lwow when in was part of Poland I cant see any reason why they would have to leave if it was to become part of Poland again

So everything will stay as it is? Schools, courts, contracts? Russian and Ukrainian language signs, schools, government documents? Considering that they're not quite as well off as the rest of Poland, I suppose that the rest of Poland will financially support the new territories. That seems like a really good deal for them.

Well Poland could not expect anyone to support it.

That's why people with common sense see it as idoicy ;)

that explain what your are doing here ..


what do you care ?


[/quote]Mr American !?


He is just saying that is a right think to do - i.e. return Lwow to Poland.
Being in Australia he can hardly plan anything :)


time will tell :P

Ah I understand, it's a circlejerk. I was having a hard time understanding the point of the thread.

So is Belarusian and Russian as descendent of Church Slavonic language, colloquial language of Kievian Rus is just a guess !
Ukrainian language was formed under heavy Polish influence.
Secondly Kievan Rus before 1569 when become part of Polish Kingdom was but empty shell, migrants from Polish kingdom give it a second life !
There were two classes in Ukraine nobles and peasants, nobles mostly locals gradually has taken Polish culture , peasants were the same except for-religion !
Because there were more orthodox clergy in the area than Catholics priests, majority of people become orthodox and consequently Rusan - then in the XIX century Ukrainian !

All this on Kievian area - about territories we are discussing is just local people folly !
Religion made them isolating themselves from Poles with a little outside help.
I say fine feel yourself whomever but either be loyal citizen of Poland or clear out!

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Point is that Lwow should belong to Poland!What hard to understand ?Nothing less nothing more!Simple thing but some are really slow!

I'm sorry my sarcasm was missed. I shouldn't have even tried.

For sarcasm one needs a brain !


Yes ! We can agree on that !

Amen, my friend. Amen.

good we understand each other mefriend !

America is invading Countries every other year... So why cry when we just want back what belongs to us?

America invaded Iraq for the Oil/Gas and terrorists right? here is some good news!!!

LWOW is filled with Oil and Terrorists :D

rada.com.ua/eng/RegionsPotential/Lviv/


poland oil

Ukranian terrorists

The last time I checked, Lvov was under Ukrainian rule. I can also say that there is a border near Przemysł ;) Best think again, troll!

now you're sounding as delusional as crow.. jeez


just checking on you idiots.


just asking to see what you guys can pull out of your butts


huh?


so, you are ready to give up szczecin and wroclaw? seems like the right thing to do..


there is no point to this thread.. circlejerk seem about right.. lol


check the map again.. lwow hasn't belonged to PL in a while now..

snuffing up people butts eh?


Aren't you an American citizen, who spend in Poland - what 16 years ?


Seems to whom ? and why ? Would you explain yourself for once instead of half a sentences?


you keep repeating that, what's your point why do you keep hanging here ?


So what Mr informed ?

Is this why all the Poles I met answer in Russian (?): "Ja nie panimaju" when I talk to them in Ukrainian ;)?


Majority of Poles have sky-rocketing IQ, that's why they can't comprehend such things as sarcasm or figurative speech.


Exactly ;)


Amen for the third time ;)

Really ? Why would you do that? And so what?
You are slow N!

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;) Irony, you are the best ;)

Well... Cossacks writes some historical document on this painting... By the way, does anyone readed exact text of that document? ;)

By the way it is not so bad... ;)

Отвiт запорожцiв Магомету IV.
Ти, султан, чорт турецкий, i проклятого чорта брат i товарищ, самого Люцеперя секретарь. Якiй ты в черта лыцарь, коли голою сракою ежака не вбъешь. Чорт высирае, а твое вiйско пожирае. Не будешь ты, сукiн ты сыну, сынiв христiянських пiд собой маты, твойого вiйска мы не боiмось, землею i водою будем биться з тобою, распроеб твою мать. Вавилоньский ты кухарь, Макидоньский колесник, Iерусалимський бравирник, Александрiйський козолуп, Великого и Малого Египта свинарь, Армянська злодиюка, Татарський сагайдак, Каменецкий кат, у всего свiту i пiдсвiту блазень, самого гаспида внук и нашего хуя крюк. Свиняча ты морда, кобыляча срака, рiзницька собака, нехрещений лоб, мать твою еб. От так тобi запорожцi виcказали, плюгавче. Не будешь ти i свиней христiанских пасти. Теперь кончаемо, бо числа не знаемо i календаря не маемо, мiсяц у небi, год у книзя, а день такий у нас, якиi i у Вас, за це поцелуй в сраку нас! Пiдписали: кошевой атаман Иван Сирко зо всiм кошем Запорожськiм.

Translation please?

Translation sounds much much "flatter" than original... But here it is...

Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

Thou art a turkish imp, the damned devil's brother and friend, and a secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight art thou that cannot slay a hedgehog with your naked arse? The devil shits, and your army eats. Thou a son of a b*tch wilt not ever make subjects of Christian sons; we have no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, f*ck thy mother.

Thou art the Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-f*cker of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, Armenian pig, Podolian villain, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, a fool before our God, a grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our dick. Pig's snout, mare's arse, slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw thine own mother!

So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. Thou wilt not even be herding Christian pigs. Now we shall conclude, for we don't know the date and don't have a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year in the book, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our arse!

Koshovyi Otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host

Haha they sure know how to Insult :D

Sure...

But, for complete understanding, here is a text of letter what was answered... ;)

As the Sultan; son of Muhammad; brother of the Sun and Moon; grandson and viceroy of God; ruler of the kingdoms of Macedonia, Babylon, Jerusalem, Upper and Lower Egypt; emperor of emperors; sovereign of sovereigns; extraordinary knight, never defeated; steadfast guardian of the tomb of Jesus Christ; trustee chosen by God himself; the hope and comfort of Muslims; confounder and great defender of Christians—I command you, the Zaporozhian Cossacks, to submit to me voluntarily and without any resistance, and to desist from troubling me with your attacks.

Just read...

guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jul/31/kalingrad-kant-home-return-german

What resolution?
It's fine as it is...let's Mother Russia take care of them....they wanted it so hard!

''In May this year, the German weekly Der Spiegel published the sensational details of a little-known offer by the Soviet leadership to return Kaliningrad, the former Königsberg, to Germany in 1990. Though barely reported in the UK, the Spiegel article was widely discussed in the Russian media last month, leading to outcries of indignation by Russian nationalists and a subsequent denial that the return of Kaliningrad had ever been on the cards by no lesser person than the last leader of the Soviet Union, Mikhail Gorbachev.

The offer had been made in a secret telegram sent to the German embassy in Moscow,''

When i wrote the same some months ago,BB doubted it and asked for sources.