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15 August 1920 - the battle of Poland with the Red Army


Ironside  50 | 12387  
15 Aug 2010 /  #1
Today anniversary of the battle with Red Army.

The eighteenth decisive battle of the world: Warsaw, 1920 by Edgar Vincent D'Abernon.

Great pictures:


Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
15 Aug 2010 /  #2
There are only 15 I've learned...
OP Ironside  50 | 12387  
15 Aug 2010 /  #3
In commie school ?:P
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
15 Aug 2010 /  #4
Oh I wished I they had told us in commie school about glorious Arminius!!! ;)

No...there is a list...
sobieski  106 | 2111  
15 Aug 2010 /  #5
IS, are you not disappointed that your beloved Dmowski was not there?
The Old Marshal despised that warped antisemitic.
OP Ironside  50 | 12387  
15 Aug 2010 /  #6
h I wished I they had told us in commie school about glorious Arminius!!! ;)

herminus that bloody traitor ?

Twenty Decisive Battles of the World by Joseph B. Mitchell and Edward Creasy (Hardcover - May 2004)

evidently there is 15, 18 and 20 :)
sobieski
The Old Marshal despised that warped antisemitic.
What your point troll? to roll?
David_18  65 | 966  
17 Aug 2010 /  #7
No...there is a list...

That book were made 1851, 69 years before the battle in Poland...

But i guess your school had to save and had to teach you from 150 years old books instead of buying books up to date ;)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
17 Aug 2010 /  #8
That book were made 1851, 69 years before the battle in Poland...

Heh:)
Now that explains that...
David_18  65 | 966  
17 Aug 2010 /  #9
Here is an interesting article about the Battle of Warsaw (1920)

bristolpress.com/articles/2010/08/09/news/doc4c60b42cf3350888256690.txt
sobieski  106 | 2111  
17 Aug 2010 /  #10
sobieski
The Old Marshal despised that warped antisemitic.
What your point troll? to roll?

You know very well that the Old Marshal was all in favour of a Commonwealth. Very much in favour of the emancipation of the minorities. I know it does not fit in your view of Polish history (still reading the protocols as bedtime lecture?). And he has to share Wawel with your "hero".
OP Ironside  50 | 12387  
17 Aug 2010 /  #11
And he has to share Wawel with your "hero".

whom do you have in mind?

I know it does not fit in your view of Polish history

what do you know about my view, troll?

You know very well that the Old Marshal was all in favour of a Commonwealth.

So what? Its amaze me that you think yourself competent to talk about His views.

still reading the protocols

Sill reading Trolling Daily ?

I-S (trolls!Phew)
sobieski  106 | 2111  
18 Aug 2010 /  #12
sobieski:
I know it does not fit in your view of Polish history

what do you know about my view, troll?

Lost your subscription to "Nasz Dziennik" ?
Eliseusz  
3 Aug 2014 /  #13
The 1920,battle of Warsaw is much more important than the world admits. When the soviets came rolling into poland in 1920, they had reasons to believe that this victory would mean world domination. Poland in my polish opinion is the gate of Europe. If the soviets could break this gate, Europe would be ripe for the taking. One must consider that Europe fought a serious war before this invasion. Germany could not be relied opon to push the Russians out because their country was in shreds and was war tired after the surrender. Britain and France were also torn and battered, and the united states was taking a clearly isolationist stance at this point. The failure of poland could have meant a European socialist republic which would have destroyed Europe as we know it. The fact that poland resisted and triumphed saved Europe from a horror it did not yet understand. Unfortunately this life saving victory is only a foot note or less in most western history books.
R.U.R.  
3 Aug 2014 /  #14
Germany could not be relied opon to push the Russians out because their country was in shreds and was war tired after the surrender.

Correct. Germany was not only in shreds and was war tired after the surrender but in addition
the revolutionary flame burnt in the country. As for European socialist republic, the revolution
is often called the Jewish revolution in Germany. This so-called German revolution, was even less German than the Russian revolution was Russian
TheOther  6 | 3596  
3 Aug 2014 /  #15
the revolution is often called the Jewish revolution in Germany

What a load of BS. It's called the November Revolution in German, and nothing else.
R.U.R.  
4 Aug 2014 /  #16
I'm not an expert on Germany the country is not interesting to me but make a search on the net and you'll find loads of BS connected with it.
TheOther  6 | 3596  
4 Aug 2014 /  #17
If you would be familiar with the culture, you would know that any phrase with a negative connotation that hints at Jewish people is completely off limits in Germany. Only ultra-right wingers and fascists would use 'Jewish Revolution' or similar, because it indirectly tries to blame the Jewish people for the defeat of the German Empire in WW1.

Also look up 'Dolchstoßlegende' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth which is related.
R.U.R.  
4 Aug 2014 /  #18
What a load of BS. It's called the November Revolution in German, and nothing else.

Only ultra-right wingers and fascists would use 'Jewish Revolution'

Great !
But I'm not a fascist, I also like marching ahead together with the progressive people like you, T theOther.

Lets have then a look at the pro-Jewish stuff produced by the progressive humane kind and titled Jewish Bolshevism : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

(Pay attention it is not anti Semitic)

But In the part dedicated to the events in Germany no mention was made about the November Revolution in Germany, it is not possible to find such an event in the article.

Strangely it was omitted by the great authors.
Was this Revolution an unimportant event in an unimportant country ? Or is it something irrelevant to the subject ? Or may be the Revolution wasn't simply German ?

By the way, I do expect and not need any answers

Must be : I do not expect and do not need any answers, sorry.
TheOther  6 | 3596  
4 Aug 2014 /  #19
There's a difference between the November Revolution and your Jewish Revolution/Jewish Bolshevism - the first one actually took place (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319), the second one is a conspiracy theory.
R.U.R.  
4 Aug 2014 /  #20
No, It is yours, the term was invented in Germany as far as I remember and the Jewish Bolshevism is a WIKI article, not mine, but doesn't matter. OK. Let it be November Revolution.

The November Revolution was omitted in the Wiki article. They prefer to begin with the Nazi period
Seems strange.
TheOther  6 | 3596  
5 Aug 2014 /  #21
Doesn't really matter, but you've noticed the first sentence of the Wikipedia page that you linked?

Quote:
"Jewish Bolshevism (also known as Judeo-Bolshevism or Jewish Communism) is part of the Jewish World Conspiracy theory that Jews control the world."
R.U.R.  
15 Aug 2014 /  #22
I prefer metapedia and other sources

Have a look at : en.metapedia.org/wiki/Judenputch

Quote:
"The Judenputsch (refered to as the German Revolution or the November Revolution in communist propaganda) was an attempt by several Judeo-Bolshevik groups, including the occupied "Bavarian Soviet Republic" and the Sparticist League, to usurp the government of the German Empire at the end of World War I. The period lasted from November 1918 until the formal establishment of the Weimar Republic in August 1919."

AND TO BROADEN YOUR KNOWLEDGE ON THE SUBJECT:
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism
Roger5  1 | 1432  
15 Aug 2014 /  #23
I prefer metapedia

Metapedia is a white supremacist hate site popular with neo-Nazis.
Here's something from Metapedia's page on Adolf Hitler you won't find in many biogs of the barking carpet-chewer.
"Hitler was also the one who attributed smoking to cancer and started the anti-smoking campaign and worked hard to promote animal welfare."
RUR  
16 Aug 2014 /  #24
Ok . Your citation comes from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metapedia

You can also find there that some Wikipedia articles have been dependent on strongly biased and hostile 'researchers' like Anti-Defamation League, Simon Wiesenthal Centre, and such."

As it is clear from our discussion the German Revolution or the November Revolution in communist propaganda or The Judenputsch was omitted in the Wiki article titled Jewish Bolshevism,

which is ridiculous of cource . (See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism)

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