Polish-Moroccan mutual relations

And France, Netherlands, Belgium, Austria, Denmark are all North or West of Poland.

Azerbaijan, Russia, Ukraine, Hungary, Morocco are all South or East of Poland.

Oh and look Iceland is in the North-West and the wind is blowing this way...

What do you think will happen when Wałensa dies? same again?

Often not visible, especially from the ground.

you, indirectly.


You don't know what went into a decision pro or against flying into Poland for the funeral. But you are welcome to make speculations, because this is what you are doing.

Vulcano ash spread to such a degree does not happen very often and if some governments decide against flying, I am really not surprised, because they are being extra careful.

Do you know how many airports have been closed, or how many flights have been cancelled? it was a total mess and I can only imagine how it would be, because I got stranded in London once because of the fog and it was a disaster, so I can imagine what happened with the ash. I looks like you have never had your flight cancelled.

Also, why should they come? why is he being buried in the Wawel?

I think Wałensa's death would warrent this response but not this, as tragic as it is.

Sorry but that is how I feel.

i presume those relations are very good

Poles likes to go to Morocco as tourists from time to time and Moroccans likes to come to Poland from time to time. So, Moroccans come and then as all decent people go back to their homes to Morocco. Who wouldn`t love them

LOL

People, people... you're all like kids' toys - so easy to wind-up :)


Netherlands made it, Belgium didn't - conclusion?

Austria is South of Poland and a big chunk of it is further East than Polish westernmost lands.
Hungary made it anyway.

You can travel from Denmark to Poland by ferry or drive in a car - take a look at the map.

In all fairness - some countries used the ash as an excuse and that's obvious.
I don't give a flying (pun intended) f**k though - just trying to wind yous
up a little bit ;)

good point. The irony is that some maybe learning a lesson about taking even less risks when flying.


I don't know, I personally have no problem with that.


there is a possibility. I really don't know, since it is hard to predict the reaction of others really:).


nothing to be sorry about. I still think that there was a tragedy, but the degree to hysteria, even tough not surprising, is quite .......I cannot even find a word to describe it.

Yep


I don't mind it, it isn't my country, I just think it's over the top.
Same as all world leaders are expected to risk themselves, even if the risk is minimal, to come to see the funeral of the president not the Taoiseach.


I think it will definitely get the world's attention when he dies but I am unsure how Polish people will react.


Agreed completely.


You rascal :)

Roll on Monday!!

the only kid here is you.

Talking about winding people up - Vatican didn't send his delegation.
Cardinal Sodano cancelled his trip - "because of the ash", naturally.

How about we send the cardinal a letter asking him what was he afraid of?
Surely, as a cardinal, he would go straight to Heaven if the plane crashed?
Such luck of trust in God's Providence shown by the Cardinal is truly appalling :)

The nail head on the hit right :)

yep


yep, I actually find this disrespectful to all the victims of the crash and their families to even talk about it, but that is my opinion. If one was really grieving the loss, as some clam, they would not have enough energy to pay attention to who was coming and who was not.


he is values more abroad then in his won country from what I understand.

Ouch!

*bullc**p, but vicious, spiteful and prickly - well done, aphro! :)*

The truth hurts, maybe not as much as jumping on a bike with no saddle but it hurts ;p

lol

Anyway - if someone from my close family died, I would be really grieving the loss,
but still I would pay attention which family members and friends appeared at the
funeral. It's obvious. However, I commend aphro for his lovely spitefulness :)

Thousands of people in Trafalger square watching the service live on a huge screen adorned with a big Polish flag. Various speakers including a Mr Milliband. Or we forgiven Torq?

Absolutely Right, IMO. Why couldn't Air Force One simply fly Westward?

All right, all right - you're forgiven :)

Good man ;-)

yep.

So - you wouldn't pay attention who came to the funeral of your family member?

me? NO. I lost my mother 4 years ago and I still don't remember who was at the funeral and who was not. Honest. I was too upset to see or care, but people grieve differently:).

Indeed...besides, probably took the Rabbis' cue...

In the fullness of time it will be all blamed on the Ashkenazi's.

i see now it's time for election a man or woman-"why not"-, who the nice Polonian deserve. passing this circumstance 's very important for you. and substutation will have the bigest responsability .However never dangerous if you do somthing of noblesse, that's a modest of things that we must done with a friend hurted country.I 'm talking about our prime minister even i don't agree with him about management of some policy files, but he get now a big square of my respect,... i not voting him next election:))

so i would thank you for all comment that, make me proud of this sign.

& Long life Polska
Abdelillah
simple Moroccan one :))

Hi, Abdel! Welcome to PolishForums. After the honourable and brave deed of your
prime minister, many people in Poland feel a lot of admiration and respect to your
country. Now, we know that we have friends in Morocco and Poles have good
memories. Nothing's forgotten! Long live Polish-Moroccan friendship!

With all due respect as an airline pilot I disagree with your contention.

First of all Morocco was not in the path of the ash (a previous post points it out, the ash coverage map which changes by the hour).

Second of all, would you still call it bravery if all three engines of the Falcon were to flame out and the front windshields became impossible to see through? [ash is like glass/diamond particles which sand-blast the windshields]

The reason airlines are as cautious as the are is because of previous incidents.

Here is a British 747 which lost all 4 engines and miraculously restarted one or two at a much lower altitude; they didn't think they were even close to the ash.

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Yes, I'm glad they were able to attend. However, they didn't put anyone else "to shame" as their geographical location was in their favor. I am certain that had Morocco been located farther north they would not attend.

I wish the funeral had been delayed by a week or so. In my view that'd have been the smartest thing to do.

PS. Off the subject - I've only been to Morocco one and it seemed to be a very lovel country and the food and the hospitality was absolutely great.

No reason to delay it for foreign delegations. The families needed to bury their dead.

I see your point but after all this was a national tragedy, not just a family tragedy. Not sure what the proper thing to do would've been but flying through the ash wasn't one of them. Glad Morocco delegation didn't have to worry about that (location) and made it in.

Like the Popemobile. Lots of faith there.


Of course, but first it was a family tragedy. Most reasonable people accept that some leaders couldn't make it due to circumstances beyond their control. And no one knew at the time whether the ash would clear up.