Not only Mazowiecki damned an innocent bishop

If there was a Chinese man coming here and complaining about his claims that some Poles several decades ago failed to speak out against crimes such as torture and illegal detention while at the same time openly supporting his own government, I would raise that. However, no Chinese government supporters have posted here.


I assume from the way that you have repeatedly ignored requests for you to support your claim that the trial was in any way rigged that you are not going to provide any such evidence and we can thus safely file that claim in the folder marked 'The EU will forcibly micro-chip your babies and other lies from Polo3'.


However, we have found out that you consider both torture and illegal detention to be perfectly acceptable when it is carried out by your own nation. Why are you criticising Mazowiecki for allegedly supporting what you claim was an illegal trial based on evidence obtained via torture while you yourself openly support both torture and illegal detention?

Hypocrite as usual. You already used twice Belgium in this thread.


And blatantly lying. IPN has no file on Mazowiecki, otherwise you already would have plastered all over this forum.
Btw, why did the duck serve ZERO days in internment? Something to with his commie daddy?

Some time ago I already sbmitted a post on the microchopping of babies. Google if you can't find it on PF.
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The rigged trials agaisnt Kazcmarek is general knowledge. I could ask you to prove Helsinki is the capital of Finland, and when you provided a link I'd repeat wikipedia is not reliable or whatever. That would be precisely your trouble-making, nitpicking style. Not interested oin learning something new and expanding your limtied knowledge but in only in crossing swords, harrassing, haranguing, fault-finding and discreditng the poster. Hasn't that become a bit boring by now?

So what: that 'article' didn't even contain the words "EU" or "European Union". However, it did contain claims that microchipped people can have their brainwaves affected by remote control :D


What an interesting way of saying that you can't find a shred of evidence to support your claim.


Fair enough. Here is the appropriate page of that city's own website: hel.fi/hki/Helsinki/en/Information+on+Helsinki

Now, why are you criticising Mazowiecki for allegedly supporting what you claim was an illegal trial based on evidence obtained via torture while you yourself openly support both torture and illegal detention?

Here is a typical Harryesque response: How do you know it's reliable? There are so many hackers and pranksters in cyberland that one can never know for sure. Provide somne credible evidence that this is not just some cyber-prankster's idea of a joke, etc., etc. ad nauseam. That's what a discusison with you is like. It's not evren a disucssion but a deliebrate ploy to stymie and thwart every attempt at genuine discourse. Remember: you have been seen through by now. Everyone knows you latch onto peripherals, casual afterthoughts and meaningless trifles to make sure no meaningful discussion can proceed.

By whom?
Everybody knows that you are habitually lying, invent stories on the go, launch coward attacks on PF members.
And if you get caught, you are not able to provide decent links.

Happily: hel.fi

Now, why are you refusing to answer question of why you are criticising Mazowiecki for allegedly supporting what you claim was an illegal trial based on evidence obtained via torture while you yourself openly support both torture and illegal detention?

And maybe he could, instead of lying, finally tell if IPN - which is a PIS institution par excellence - has a file on Mazowiecki. It clearly hasn't because he evades the question big time. Maybe the answer should be found in Belgium?

Apparently he can't. But then again he can't explain why it's OK for him to support his country when it admits it has tortured and illegally detained innocent men but it is not OK for Poles to support their country when he claims that Poland tortured and illegally detained innocent men.

Terrorists are not innocent men. They've got 9/11, Madrd. London and many other attacks on innocent people on their hands.


It is not OK for Poles to support the puppet regime installed by Soviet occupation forces. That is the same as supporting Hitler's General Government. Poles had every right to disobey, cirucmvent, undermine and sabotage the alien invaders and their local flunkies.

Any afterthoughts on Mazowiecki's IPN file?

I know all this as a matter of fact. If this topic fascinates or intirgues you, check it out and track it down. I don't have to becuase amongst educated Poles (maybe not expats and yuppified wannabe Western copycat Poles) the Kazcmarek case is well known. But this subejct neither fascinates nor intrigues nor evene interests you in the least. All you wnat to do is: BICKER, BAKCBITE, SIDESWIPE, CALL NAMES, DISCREDIT, QUIBBLE, QUARREL, SQUABBLE, INSULT and ANTAGONISE. There's no law against it so go for it, ale beze mnie. (Google that for the translation!)

" If this topic fascinates or intirgues you, check it out and track it down."
You're making the claim, you need to support it.

That is a sop for "I was caught lying once again, and what now?"