A little reminder for those Brits that ***** about Poles

Needs more caps and exclamation marks. Not to be a buttface, but wasn't it better to pay rent to the Russians for 40 years than to be annihilated by the Germans, so that they could turn Poland into a roomy backyard? Roosevelt and Churchill aren't deities, and they did the best they could for the people that voted for them. Churchill warned anybody that would listen about Stalin, but everybody was pretty much tired of the war thing, and were ready to call it a day. You had to bunk up with the reds for a few years, and it was tough to find fresh fruit sometimes. You got your country back, the malls are all open, and everybody's fine. Calm thyself.

Yes you are right Jason. I will use your words whenever I speak to polish jews on fzp forum :)

Could you perhaps go into detail about the price which was paid to Britain in exchange for selling Poland?


Do feel very free to explain the way (or ways) in which Britain failed to live up to her treaty obligations with regard to Poland.


We'll never know, largely because millions of Poles did support communist rule in Poland.

Do you sincerely believe that the biggest problem was finding fresh fruit? People couldn't get toilet paper, meat, flour, sugar, etc. depending on what the "Reds" were screwing up in the controlling of supplies. People were being killed for going to church, wearing a cross, complaining about the lines at the stores, etc. Or deported to Siberia. Granted, and thank God, it wasn't as bad as Czechoslovakia's situation, or the genocidal starvation of the Ukrainians, but it was still terrible. If it was just about some fresh fruit, I wouldn't be living in the USA now, would I?

Please, don't be so dismissive of other peoples' suffering.

Nazis lost the war ...... WHY would Poland be annihilated by the Germans AFTER the WWII, again???

Clearly, logical thinking is NOT your thing. Or is the EVIL in you that demonstrates itself and cannot be easily camouflaged any more.

Take it DOWN a notch, won't YOU?? It MIGHT be the EVIL in me, but it's PROBABLY just the OTHER PERSPECTIVE in me. ALSO. I'm being FACETIOUS. You can SEE that can't you, or do you have your HEAD shoved so far ELSEWHERE that all you SEE IS BROWN??

This is why the West may have the POWER, but NOT the RESPECT.
It is all about the RESPECT!

Poles have learned their lesson: Do NOT ever die for London because London will NOT die for Warszawa.
And IF the say they will .... Do NOT TRUST them because they LIE.
Lying is their first nature.

Hrm. Y'know.. not for nothin, but the things you say about THE WEST sound an awful-lot like stuff Stalin woulda said. And really, if YOU were Churchill or anybody else in a decision-making capacity back then, who knows what YOU woulda done. People in power usually just do the kinda stuff people without power WOULD do if they COULD. Anyways, look. Everybody eventually gets the government they deserve, right? You just gotta hang in there, fight the good fight, etcetera. You did all that, or your parents did, or whomever. Now everybody play nice and share the continent, okay?

Could you possibly pause your racist diatribe for a moment and answer the question of what price which was paid to Britain in exchange for selling Poland and the way (or ways) in which Britain failed to live up to her treaty obligations with regard to Poland? At the moment your complete refusal to address either of those issues shows us that you no the reality of the situation is very different to the situation which you whine about.

You asked for proof that you are TRAITORS, here it is. Britain signed a military pact with Poland in August 1939 that in event Germany should attack Britain or Poland, both countries would aid each other militarily. Well, Germany attacked Poland September 1, 1939, but Britain (or France, for that matter) NEVER lived up to the pact and never sent any military help: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish-British_Common_Defence_Pact

Yawn. Kindly go into detail about the assistance which it was within Britain's power to give which was not given.

I've asked numerous people to go into detail about that and none of them ever does. No doubt you will just reply with a load of abuse and repetition of the claim which you cannot support.

YES, this is a sweet revenge worth living for :-)


Just to let you know I reported your comment.
Keep your vulgar language at home if your family allows it.

we seem to be following an old path.

LOL.
Pray tell what kind of goverment would hush up the katyn atrocity for so long?
Maybe it was philbys fault.

British policy towards the USSR was dictated by soviet intelligence,your Goverment was owned by moscow.
And my God it showed at every turn.
British intelligence was an extended arm of the NKVD,fact.
Embarassing.

if you did not want to give assistance or ware not able to then you should not offer it or make illusion that you will, that is all Harry Poland got used and is getting used now for Anglo Saxons word domination aspiration.

thank god Putin got elected in Russia so he can stop your country man war on humanity.

Why do you lie Harry?
I told you what Britain should do !You just refuse to listen !

Really? So why did Britain sell Poland to the USSR? If the state of affairs was as you claim, Poland simply would have been given to the USSR.


Rather than repeating the same tired old lies, how about going into detail about the assistance which it was within Britain's power to give which was not given?

They are practical, no need for that overt generalization, keep qualm and do not mind Harry.

Poland wasn't sold to the USSR it was GIVEN to the ussr as a way of thanks for the many polish lives sacrificed at Monte Cassino Arnhem BoB etc etc.

So you deny M15 was compromised by Philby and his crowd ?

You scummy litle turd!

How many thousands of British and Empire troops died attempting to honour a treaty with Poland? How many British civilians died in bombing raids on British cities because Britain entered a war which neither they nor Germany wanted?

Germany never thought Britain would make a stand on behalf of Poland and didn't want to go to war with Britain.

My mother lost family in that war and my father's brother and father were fighting in that war... for what? To be called "traitors" by someone who'd probably have been sucking Stalin's haemmorhoids of he'd been around at the time.

Good people fought and died in that war, good people who could have made a decent contribution to life if the bloody politicians had got it right. Good people who fought (and died) side by side with brave Polish service personell. Don't you dare, you whiny, turd sucking piece of scum, call those fallen and their families "traitors"!

British army from the western front should conduct serious operations against Germany to remove the bulk of German armies from Poland.Mannstein in his memoirs writes that a common Anglofrench action from the West had considerable chances to succeed since German side was stripped down by soldiers who had been transfered to the East to participate in the polish campaign.

The question is how did Hitler know the West was not going to attack?

Funny how we hear so much about the 30 Polish airmen who died during the BoB but that the 24 British airmen who died bombing Germany on 4 September 1939 are so routinely lied about by people who claim that Britain took no military action against Germany in that month and/or claim that there were no such bombing raids.


What British army on the western front? There was no British army on that front until after all Polish forces in Poland had surrendered.

I for one certainly do not have anything negative to say about British service personal in world war 2.You spineless Goverment where the ones without honour.Not the population at large.

Or are you going to tell me the katyn cover up as just one example was not a disgusting spineless sop to churhills buddy uncle joe?

Hang on,it was all Philbys fault.

you told them !

You are beginning to sound desperate Larry.
Comments on the katyn cover up please.
Cheers.

The comment was not aimed at you.


Hmmm, considering Britain was almost obliterated by the Luftwaffe can you imagine how far any attempt to send military aid would have got? Maybe they should have just sailed it in through Gdansk...

Had they done that the Soviet invasion on September 17, 1939 most likely would not have happened, which would have changed the dynamics of the war and it is entirely possible the War would NOT have dragged on for six bloody years.

Hitler was in bed with stalin who knew what colour underpants Churchill was wearing every day.
Figure it out...

No chance, I've already been warned once today for taking a thread off topic.

check your notes again sunshine but no Brits died for Poland! Nice try - attempting to honor the treaty? Is that like attempting to pay ? Would court recognize such defense?