My Great Grand father took part in the Battle of Warsaw!

Ok, let's say it will be better known Oginski's Polonez.

No. We will f**k them back twice as hard. We live in a beautiful era when a single soldier
with a rocket launcher can destroy a military airplane worth millions, when one partizan with
AT weapon can easily destroy a tank.

We live in times when a tiny group of fanatics with bombs can terrorize entire nations
(even superpowers.) If Russia or Germany ever try to reach for Polish lands, the amount
of terror that will hit them, will make Palestinian-Israeli conflict or Al-Quaeda look like
kindergarten stuff.

However, both Russian and German governments are smarter than that, and will never
try anything of the kind - that would be a disaster for them.

Unfortunately for Poles Poland is a very flat land which offers very few opportunities for resistance and guerilla war.

Yes, and about 30% of this land is covered by forests - perfect for guerilla warfare.
However, I wasn't talking only about guerilla warfare. I was talking about terrorism.
Terrorism that would make muslim terrorist attacks look like kindergarten fun.

Like Unabomber.Among whites Slavs are the ones with the highest inclination to terrorism as it is historically proven many times.However against Russians such measures can lead to devastation since russian approach is kill them all and do not mind the casualties.

Right.

Would add only that German's crematoriums with smoke again.

LOL

Well, then I guess Soviet Union won the war in Afghanistan? Kill them all, don't mind the
casualties and... no, wait a minute. The sheep herdsmen defeated Russians, didn't they?
Ruskies were owned like bit*ches in Afghanistan, so in case of Poland they would be owned
10 times more.


Well, we will have to do something with all those dead Russian bodies, so yes - our German
allies may help us to get rid of them.

No I am merely reflecting Russian thinking.

Even Aleksander the Great was seriously wounded when he tried to conquer Afghanistan and it took him 4 years of war to establish some kind of rule just in the cities.(he grounded Kandahar).They are devils there.

livius.org/aj-al/alexandria/alexandria_arachosia.html

No underground force in history has ever expelled an invador without outside support.
Not sure if you realise that the soviets had a few other things on their plate in 1989 and were frankly sick of dodging US armed terrorists with stingers....

Yes that is my recollection, but I bet Costi will use his Russian-Pravda like propaganda to come up with a different explanation(: Just like he was trying to deny Russian racism on the other thread, until i showed him the evidence, and he still denied it. LOL.

youd be wrong though wouldnt you.....and BTW,how are Polish forces doing in Afganistan? Winning the war fort NATO I suppose....

Oh, I wonder, what keeps you from telling me that you, as the proud Pole:

1) Crosses condoms before wearing
2) Listens Radio Maria stealthily
3) Becomes furious any time hearing word "abortion"

Indeed, I think we should indulge Costi with a poem about Poland written by a brilliant Englishman

(The wrongs of Poland)

In sable weeds Britannia mourning stands
O’er fallen Sarmatia’s bier; bathing with dew
Of truthful pity, the unfading wreaths
That thickly cluster round her trophied urn.

O land of heroes, could the Muse portray
A little of what thy children have endured,
Each face would wear the mourning of the heart;
All voices join in execration loud.
No pen can picture true thy mighty wrongs;
No tongue reveal the many springs of woe;
Oppression, murder, rapine, torture, lust,
All cruelty, in each appalling form:
Most deadly fruit of blind despotic rage,
That like the feigned Promethean bird of hell
By gorging human flesh more ravenous grow.

But Russia, thou! In guilt and might supreme
To deal with Thee, how shall the muse essay?
What spell, what power invoke? For words are vain.
Yet wouldst thou list awhile, thou mightst perchance
Some new-found truth like hidden treasures find
And gain the knowledge that was never thine
To know thyself, and all thou call’st thine own;
As in a mirror, thou thyself might’st view,
And learn to loathe what others see..

It’s quite incredible, the words in bold are as though they have been addressed to Costi himself (:

Tell me when you start loathing what others see Costi?

Absolutely off topic Kostik's remarks having one purpose only:
to improve the fading image of the wannabe superpower Matushka !

Russia has taken exactly the Polish path - some hundreds years later only.
I'm pretty sure we are facing partitions of Russia now and it's only problem of time when Russia becomes an important part of Greater China and it's gonna be Beijing's decision to grant some sort of autonomy to the Great Dutchy of Moscow ... or not !

I'm all for independent Russia.
In the long run it's much better for the EU to have Russia as a neighbor than expanding power of China !
But on the other hand can you give me an example of a modern state losing 50% of its population (plus strategic part of its territory) within some months like CCCP did ?

you don't know that. He actually made some interesting observations. Wouldn't you want to know how Poles are viewed by others. His comments are spot on.

Only others with an objective and unprejudiced observation, Costi is not one of those people, he gets most of his information form Russian media sources, and he uses this forum for Pole bating. Therefore i know what he thinks, and as such there is no point listening to someone who is an unapologetic lover of Russian imperialism.

I know it already and Kositk's comments are all but irrelevant to the main topic.
He should have started a new thread "How Poles are viewed by Kostiks?" .

КЛЕВЕТНИКАМ РОССИИ

О чем шумите вы, народные витии?
Зачем анафемой грозите вы России?
Что возмутило вас? волнения Литвы?
Оставьте: это спор славян между собою,
Домашний, старый спор, уж взвешенный судьбою,
Вопрос, которого не разрешите вы.
...

(А.С. Пушкин)

What do you raise an outcry over, national bards?
Why do you threaten Russia with Anathema?
What stirred you up? The throes of Lithuania?
Desist: this is a strife of Slavs among themselves,
An old domestic strife, already weighed by fate,
An issue not to be resolved by you.

·· [Continuing] ··

There was a young lady from Pinsk
who went on a bus ride to Minsk,
The bus driver fella
took a left for Oddessa
and neither have been seen since..

Isthatu,2011.
See,genuine english poetry about the area.....must be fact.

There was once this Constantine chap
who wanted to wipe Poland off the map
he was happy and gay
and he seemed OK
but man - was he talking crap!

There was a young fella called Kostya
to the Pole he said "I accost ya"
The Pole at this larfed,
so much that he barfed
all over the Russkies sapogii

So young Kostya took off his ushanka
bit still looked a bit of a wanka
he brushed down his gymn'
with a packet of vim
and ran home to the suburbs of Moscva

I like your brilliant manipulations with facts, Borrka. But I think - I can! Aaand, it is the same USSR during WWII. In less then two months we lost almost all European part of the state. However we managed to recover. So, why you assert that this time we fail?


Easy, easy Torque. Nobody has such ferocious intentions. Unfortunately Poland is oriented in Europe without any regard to rules of Feng Shui.


I am in no way responsible for my Russian imperialism. What do you thin I should do? Abandon it in favor of another imperialistic state - America? I shall do it not on your life!

Bollox.

With nice round shape and harmonic borders (resting mostly on mountains and rivers), Poland
is a typical, text-book Feng-Shui Wonder.

Russia, on the other hand, is every Feng Shui master's nightmare.

So, then let's make them round at the expense of Poland. Sorry for historical allusion, but we need corridor between mainland and Kaliningradskaya Oblast'.

you mean Konigsberg surely?

I have to say that your knowledge of geography is absolutely appalling, Constantine.
Even if entire Poland was turned into a Russian province today, it still wouldn't connect
Kaliningradskaya Oblast' with mainland Russia, you geographically inept muppet.

You can name it as you wish, it is your right. But being it either Russian or German it will be surely a great threat for Poland. However, I think that Russian presence in this region is much preferable for Poland than German one. Remember that both Poland and Russia shared parts of Konigsberg, and Polish part is bigger.

Ok,i'll call it what it was till russia stole it,murdered or drove out the natives,Prussian.
The soviets only stole it for better acess to the Baltic ,you have no fleet now so why not do the right thing and give it back?

Ah, come on. Afghanistan fighters were willing to use almost any tactic necessary to drive out the Russians - I can't imagine Poland ever fighting a war on such a level.


In all fairness - Poland has no history of this. Even during Communist times, terror wasn't used - it's just not in the Polish mentality to do such a thing. Poland's spirit is still broken - I cannot imagine Poland having the will to fight back when the aggressor executes another Katyn to break the will of the people.

I'm still convinced that Poland should have adopted the Swiss doctrine of defence.


Give it back to who? I don't think the Poles will be too impressed at being told to give up some of their land.


I wouldn't call it that, but I'd say that the borders should be much easier to defend than before WWII ;)