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Christopher Colombowicz: America's discoverer Polish not Portuguese, claim historians


guesswho  4 | 1272  
30 Nov 2010 /  #31
It's a big New World though, they could split it into North and South discoveries and share the glory.

You forgot the West and the East, lol
Hey, anything is possible nowadays, I wouldn't be surprised if they'll find out that Mozart was really Mozartski and Einstein, Einsteinowicz.
wildrover  98 | 4430  
30 Nov 2010 /  #32
Well, if this is not a joke, than Poland has something to be proud of

Don,t forget Marco Polowicz and Vasco de gamaski...!
guesswho  4 | 1272  
30 Nov 2010 /  #33
Jeez, I forgot those two, too. Sorry about that.

Oh, before I forget, there was a James Cookski too.
wildrover  98 | 4430  
30 Nov 2010 /  #34
I bet when all the truth comes out...Poland actually owns the whole world...!

Which means...Poland invaded itself , failed to come to its own rescue , and allowed itself to occupy itself after the war...!

Who is gonna take the blame for that i wonder....?
guesswho  4 | 1272  
30 Nov 2010 /  #35
I'll take the blame, what the hell.
wildrover  98 | 4430  
30 Nov 2010 /  #36
Good man...you can always say it was an accident...
MediaWatch  10 | 942  
30 Nov 2010 /  #37
Very Interesting article.

Thanks for the post Stu :)

If more and more distinguished professors are coming to this conclusion then there has to be something to it.
Eurola  4 | 1898  
30 Nov 2010 /  #38
and why nobody mentioned Amerigo Vespuccinski? America bears his name now. No?
guesswho  4 | 1272  
30 Nov 2010 /  #39
I agree with you, that's an insult indeed.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11939  
30 Nov 2010 /  #40
America bears his name now. No?

Shouldn't it be "Ameriga"? :):):)

"Vinland" sounds much nicer...;)
guesswho  4 | 1272  
30 Nov 2010 /  #41
Shouldn't it be "Ameriga"? :):):)

Not really, according to the "new facts" presented today, it would have to be either "Amerigski" or "Amerygowicz".
Eurola  4 | 1898  
30 Nov 2010 /  #42
"Vinland" sounds much nicer...;)

Not all lost. Vinland (Wineland) name is used for California. :)
shewolf  5 | 1077  
30 Nov 2010 /  #43
Did anyone mention Lewicz and Clarkski?
hague1cmaeron  14 | 1366  
30 Nov 2010 /  #44
Now let someone tell me that there is no antipolish sentiment...

You are not wrong about that, try some of these little gems.

this one is from a doctor: "I notice you picked a particularly Polish looking (ie. round and greasy) picture of CC for this post." (-my response to him would be you are from America buddy, last time I had a look there were quite a few round greasy individuals in your country)

"you should've seen him try to tie his shoe."

"Which explains all the sailors lost while digging graves for funerals at sea."

"Hah!! That explains it all. Speaking of which, anybody know why all the polish navy's submarines have glass bottoms? So they can see their air force. Sorry, couldn't resist."

and this an extract from the actual article: 'New research indicates that Christopher Columbus was the son of a Polish king! "How many explorers does it take to mistake the Bahamas for China?"

New research indicates that Christopher Columbus was the son of a Polish king! "How many explorers does it take to mistake the Bahamas for China?" would be an inappropriate response. Give up some respect. Who's your daddy now, America? (Poland.)

gawker.com/5701340/christopher-columbus-was-polish

Yes being a Pole can be a bit tough sometimes):
AussieSheila  5 | 75  
30 Nov 2010 /  #45
dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1334274/WikiLeaks-latest--Pope-Catholic.html

It turns out that Christopher Columbus was Polish, not Italian. Just as well he wasn't thinking of setting out for the New World today.

Otherwise he would have stopped off in Southampton, immediately found work as a plumber and someone else would have had to discover America.

Ashleys mind  3 | 446  
30 Nov 2010 /  #46
It turns out that Christopher Columbus was Polish, not Italian. Just as well he wasn't thinking of setting out for the New World today.

Otherwise he would have stopped off in Southampton, immediately found work as a plumber and someone else would have had to discover America.

Oh how I miss England...

Hey I lived in Southampton with a leaky toilet for 3 years! (with Poles!)
Trevek  25 | 1699  
30 Nov 2010 /  #47
with a leaky toilet for 3 years! (with Poles!)

leaky toilet must have made them feel at home.
szczeciniak  4 | 92  
6 Dec 2010 /  #48
Merged thread:
"Columbus wasn't Italian"

Christopher Columbus Son of a Polish father and a Portuguese mother???

watchingamerica.com/News/78858/christopher-columbus-was-the-son-of-king-vladislav-iii-of-poland/

do we change the history now!!
Czarnkow1940  5 | 94  
7 Dec 2010 /  #49
Well, if this is not a joke,

What kind of person would joke about this?

Poland has something to be proud

Yes it does now it is time for Poland to invade USA and reclaim it.
MediaWatch  10 | 942  
7 Dec 2010 /  #50
Yes Yes like people of Polish ancestry don't know there is anti-Polish prejudice out there LOL
Czarnkow1940  5 | 94  
7 Dec 2010 /  #51
Poland actually owns the whole world

Really? I would have never though of that ;)

Poland invaded itself , failed to come to its own rescue , and allowed itself to occupy itself after the war

It also partitioned it self several times.

Who is gonna take the blame for that i wonder....?

the Jews or the English
Seanus  15 | 19666  
7 Dec 2010 /  #52
Zinedine Zidanowicz next? Or maybe Marek Polowicz (Marco Polo)? All those Polish connections are there, you know? ;0
AdamKadmon  2 | 494  
7 Dec 2010 /  #53
...the voyager was not from a family of humble Italian craftsmen as previously thought - but the son of Vladislav III, an exiled King of Poland...

For some reason he hid the true identity of his Polish biological father from most people during his lifetime, and history books have been none the wiser.


The author of the article does not know that the story is absolutely impossible: (s)he should have known that the Władysław III was a homosexual and thus would have rather had sex with men rather than with women, ergo would not have children.

Here goes the facts: Jan Długosz in his Chronicles of the Kingdom of Poland unambiguously suggested kings homosexuality. It is clear, however, that faced with Władysław possible homosexuality, the popes preferred not to take unnecessary risks by canonising him.

However, the journalists' efforts could be used to a good cause. Let me explain. There are many saints whose behaviour, judged by the modern standards, could be considered more bizarre than homosexuality. Isn't it a high time for the RCC to make up for the lost of time and proclaim Władysław Warneńczyk the saint. What do you think about this "ultimo aggiornamento"?
guesswho  4 | 1272  
7 Dec 2010 /  #54
Christopher Colombowicz: America's discoverer Polish not Portuguese, claim historians

"Who Discovered America before Christopher Columbus?
Many people had reached the continent of America before Columbus. The people from Asia reached America thousands of years before Columbus and became the inhabitants of this land. Norse expeditions to America had started much before 1492 AD i.e. in 986 AD. These expeditions were initiated by Bjarni Herjolfsson. Most of the expeditions before the time period of Columbus were not documented properly. As per some records, Chinese Admiral Zheng was the first to discover America. It is however, said that these claims cannot be considered true. This is because, none of the voyages of Admiral Zheng went beyond the Indian Ocean. As per Icelandic sagas, Norse explorer, Leif Erikson had reached America long before 1492. The remains of a viking-type settlement were found by archaeologists in Canada (1963). These remains are believed to be around 1000 years old."
DariuszTelka  5 | 193  
7 Dec 2010 /  #55
The remains of a viking-type settlement were found by archaeologists in Canada (1963). These remains are believed to be around 1000 years old."

Does this mean Norwegians get to take over the Indian casinoes? Instead of Tipi's and Totem poles with ornaments, we'll have "Valhalla Casino and Gambling" and "Valkyrian Roulette"...with humongous statues of Thor and Odin at the entrance...hmm...

I read about the Kennewick man....9300 years ago....maybe he was Andrzej Kennewicki?

Ah, history is funny nowadays with the whole DNA and carbon dating thing going into overdrive....in the end we probably didn't come out of Africa, but Siberia.

DariuszTelka
guesswho  4 | 1272  
7 Dec 2010 /  #56
Does this mean Norwegians get to take over the Indian casinoes?

I only provided this information to show who really discovered America. Whoever Columbus was, Portuguese, Italian or Polish, it wasn't him.
DariuszTelka  5 | 193  
8 Dec 2010 /  #57
Thanks for the info! I actually find it very interesting, that so many "facts" that we grew up with are being questioned, and in many instances have to be revised. We had a very bold and brave explorer here in Norway, Thor Heyerdahl, who set sail over the Pacific Ocean from South America to the Polynesian islands in a self-made raft, to show that people there also were descendants from South America and not only Asia as previously thought. He also built a raft and sailed between the old South America and Africa and the Middle East to show how trade and interaction between these areas could be possible as far back as 3 000 years ago. He tried and failed, then tried again, and succeeded on rafts built from materials used back then. Before that, nobody thought it was possible. And so the historybooks had to be changed/altered, to show that indeed was possible.

One of the few points worth mentioned is that he was ridiculed, his theories were seen as "adventure-tales" and many "real" professors and historians did not take him seriously. They had to swallow their pride considerably when his rafts hit the shores of his destination intact with everyone onboard alive.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_Heyerdahl

Anyone visiting Norway must visit this exhibition, it's in Oslo. They have the raft and everything on display.

One of the last things he worked on before his death was the fact that a people living close to the Black sea by the river Don, were the Scandinavians forefathers as mentioned in the chronicles of Snorre Sturlasson famous Folk Saga writings, who people mostly have believed were a mix of folk tales and imagination. Heyerdahl though had other ideas, his theory, combined with excavations and relics found in a city named Azov, was that these people in the old folktales were real and migrated up north as the Roman Empire grew bigger, and settled in todays Norway, Sweden and Denmark. "The hunt for Odin":

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakten_p%C3%A5_Odin

These are quite fascinating theories, and if one has an open mind, some are logical. But again, most professors and historians are sceptical, but also mocking him openly again. Maybe they will stop one day.

So, if Christopher Colombus really had a Polish father, then let the people following this do their work, and see what they come up with.

DariuszTelka
MarcoCerqueira  - | 1  
24 Jun 2012 /  #58
Nie prawda!
This "Christopher Colombowicz" Cristovão Colombo, was a Italian navigator. Im an expert in history.
Thank you. :)
pawian  221 | 26411  
24 Jun 2012 /  #59
Don`t be silly. He was Polish. As clear as the Italian sky.
Nickidewbear  23 | 609  
24 Jun 2012 /  #60
...the voyager was not from a family of humble Italian craftsmen as previously thought - but the son of Vladislav III, an exiled King of Poland..

I just think, "Never mind. Christopher Columbus was Jewish (at the same time, phew and damn). The "damn" part because that would have been interesting if he were Polish. Then again, I'm Jewish; so why the "damn"? It's that mixed part of me, I think--I can be such a bag of contradictions, and for that I still can't wrap my head around that I'm Jewish."

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