Do you think all Slavs are white?

Ssh...not here ;) ;) Don't speak of such things :)

I've noticed that too. I don't know where it comes from.

No, these were Albanians and people from the former Yugoslavia. Also, you seem a little confused. The Turkish population is formed of different ethnicities. Some Turks are Slavic...

The Albanians i've met have a strong affiliation for Italy and see them as their brothers.

The Albanians see themselves close to Turks.They just choose Italy for their vaccations and pretend they are Italian when outside.

haha, the Italians I've met certainly don't see them anywhere near as 'brothers'...

No, Slavs are blue people, like the Smurfs. Of course they are white. Stop asking stupid questions.

Could have been a Pole of Armenian origin.


Either that or their relatives could have had some Armenian ancestry.

He certainly looked more Armenian than Polish. In fact, Armenia fits his face perfectly.

I have a female friend who has Armenian background (from Lvov)(through one of her parents) - and it does show in her looks

Some of the posts in this thread make me feel as though I had just go caught in a time warp and walked into a room of full of people arguing about 19th century versions of the 18th Century idea of race. I am sorry but there just isn't such a thing, except over in the U.S. Census Bureau which is stuck because of the History of Slavery and its evils into keeping track of people by "Race" to deal with redress. In the

U.S. 'white" used to simply mean the guys in charge. A hundred years ago an elderly African American was asked by a reporter if any "white" people lived in his neighborhood. He answered "No. There's some Polacks but they ain't white, you know".The distinction of "Polacks" and white men was commonly used well into living memory . We became "White" sometime between 1935 and 1965.(By the way the U. S. Census [ACS 2006-2009] shows that there 120,000 people who self identify as Polish who also claim to be of more than one race. That is a group larger than all but the largest local Polonias and constitutes about 2% of all who self identify as "Polish" in the U.S. (approximately 10 million)

In any case we are all more closely related than we think. If each of us goes back 1000 years we would have a trillion direct ancestors- far more than have ever lived on earth. This is obviously impossible since populations 1000 years ago were very small. Statistically, the most recent ancestor of everyone living today of European ancestry lived only 600 years ago. (Poland had 1.2 million people in 1000 A.D.Probably all who had descendants-est. about 80%- are the direct ancestors of every Pole alive now.) Since mating wasn't random we probably need to back to about 1000 A. D. to safely say that everyone in Europe living then who had descendants is the direct ancestor of everyone of European ancestry living today. So we all are not just directly descended from everyone in Poland in 1000 AD but everyone in Europe in 1000 AD whose line lived on. Since many of Mohammed's descendants married Europeans in Eastern Europe, Italy, the Balkans and Spain and converted, we are all also direct descendants of Mohammed (died 632 A. D.). If it makes people feel better we can all also claim Charlemagne. Given the fact that Poland was one of Europe's great melting pots of peoples there is no doubt that we fit very well into that historical pattern

Southern "Slavs" like in serbia, bosnia, croatia, the balkans, macedonia etc. are further south and thus there is more sunlight so they are exposed more to sunlight, and it could also be because of interbreeding between slavs and muslims, greeks, and other brown people from last few hundred years

I just wanted to second that. Well written and to the point. Thank you.

Oh what a strange post. We are southern "Slavs".
I have brown hair, brown eyes, most members of my family have blue eyes and blond hair. They are then Slavs, and I'm not?

My ancestors are coming from Adriatic coast (most of darker versions are coming from there), where they mixed, not with Muslims surely.

So what? We have at least three subtypes : Typical Slavic (blond, blue eyes), Mediterranean (brown, brown) and Dinaric ( all varieties).
They are all beautiful. And all over their bodies and souls simply Slavs :))))

I have very strong suspicions that this thread is infiltrated by crypto-Jews. Personally I find the anti-Polish views put fourth here quite disgusting and anyone harboring such views should immediately be deported from Polish soil.

Who, for example? What does being Jewish have to do with it?

That's more of a Nordic description :) Many Poles have dark hair. Whilst it is true to say that many are blonde, many dye their hair that way.

dark blond, brown or brunette...


especially men...

True, I'd say more have darker hair if anything.

Women, I'd say. I haven't done the proof checks and I don't think I'll get that privilege ;)

Very true.


I've noticed this too. I don't know where some people get the dumb idea that most Poles have blond hair and blue eyes lol.


Yeah, a lot of Polish women dye their hair blonde which doesn't really always look too good. I think many Polish girls would look a lot better with black hair.

You will find that most polish are different shades brown hair or blond hair with blue eyes, and very white skin, as white as nordic people. Polish peole have a nordic look at first glance if not for their height and facial features, polish people have stockier physiques , nordics tend to be taller and different facial features... but both have same mostly blue eyes and blond hair or brown hair or mix of brown/blond. Also some poles have less dense hair while others more dense.

lol no...

The Russian are "whiter" then the Poles are since the pure Russian type descends from ancient Vikings. Poland used to be the crossroads of Europe. I'd say the majority of Poles are dark blond/brunette and the eyes are grey, although you can meet any type.

I spoke with a Lithuanian nurse today and found her looks compelling. She had olive colored skin, brown hair and blue eyes. Probably some sort of Tatar/Baltic combination.

As to Poles, they can have any combination of blonde hair, blue, hazel, or brown eyes, and skin tone can run from very white to occasionally olive.


He understood that Poles were not WASPS and therefore not part of the ruling enslaving class. Color didn't have anything to do with it.

Russians are not white. Russians are Russian. Same goes for Ukrainians. I've never heard a discussion in Russia or Ukraine framed in these terms. But they/we can complain endlessly about Jewish/Armenian/Churki/Dagi and so on nationalities. Also, "black" doesn't even mean African (it means Caucasian). So none of your black/white terminology applies to them.

And what kind of discussion is this? Only racists talk about about things like that.

Anyway, if you wanted to know about the skin colour - it differs. Some people are pasty/pale, and some are more "smuglye" (darker). The majority of Russians have light grey (not blue, blue colour is rare and considered beautiful) eyes and kind of mousy light brown hair (the colour is called "rusyi", as in "russian/rus hair colour" ). Ukrainians have about the same skin, and they have slightly more green and brown eyed people. Also, their hair is slightly darker. And their beauties are required to be "chornobriva" (bushy dark eyebrows, heheheh!).

here's the "blond" map of Europe:

If you were asking about genetic makeup, here are some references:


Dude, if you are talking about Ryuriki/Varyagi, there weren't that many of them to make a (genetic) difference. Culturally - yes, they pretty much founded Russia. Linguistically, too (I recently learned that there are many russian words that are actually norsk in origin, like "lavka", or "lar'", or "knut"... so weird... ) But other than that? Nope.

The Chronicle Of Rurik says that the Russ were invited in because "the Slavs were quarreling". These Slavic tribes were the foundation of the Russian nation but it is true that those Varangians gave that nation its name.

You call us racists yet you partake in this discussion. ******* idiot...

well, it's okay to talk about phenotypes and genetic makeup. and about cultures.

but it's not OK to talk about the "white" thing. it's a social construct that is used for "othering", kinda like "us" vs. "them". not cool.

Only liberals who attempt to neuter language believe that skin color is a "social construct". It's in the DNA making it a natural fact.

Abuse of this terminology is exemplified in feminist literature which states that gender is a "social construct".

Black Slavs are extremely rare.

I meant Varangians, yes. It has stunned me how many ethnic Russians are blond, blue-eyed types. You don't get so many of such type in Poland. My point however is the Polish are rather a mixture of different nations/genes due to geographical location and historical events (such as wars, migration of nations, etc.) My Mum born at the former Romanian border had black hair and brown eyes. My Warsaw born Dad was dark blonde/blue-grey eyes. I'm dark blond/grey eyes/black facial hair and eyebrows.

All the discussion is however pointless when we start asking the question who really the Silesian are ;-)