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Genealogy - Cecylia Lisinska Family, Szczutowo, Poland


Ballenisles1  1 | 2  
25 Sep 2015 /  #1
Hello, I am looking for information regarding my Grandmother, Cecylia Lisinska born January 26, 1882 in Szczutowo. Her Father was Jozef Lisinski and her Mother was Maryann (Maryannz) Falkowski (Falkowsieh). If anyone has any information about my Grandmother, her family, relatives or location of the farm I believe they farmed, would you please reply. Sadly, I do not speak Polish. Thank you so much...

Diane
DominicB  - | 2706  
25 Sep 2015 /  #2
Actually, your pretty lucky to have a probable relative in Poland who has the power to help you enormously, if he is so inclined.

He is the chaplain for the city police department in Gdańsk, and he was born in Szczutowo or very, very near.

His name is Fr. Franciszek Lisiński

And you can address a letter to him at this address:

Parafia rzymskokatolicka pw. Wniebowzięcia NMP i Św. Katarzyny
ul. Gdańska 3
84-240 Reda

Chances are slim that he would know English, though, so you'll have to have the letter translated into Polish.
TheOther  6 | 3596  
25 Sep 2015 /  #3
There are three villages with that name within a 20 mile radius - one in woj. mazowieckie, and two in woj. kujawsko-pomorskie. Which one is it?

mapa.szukacz.pl/
(enter Szczutowo into the "Miejscowość" field on the right)
DominicB  - | 2706  
25 Sep 2015 /  #4
The information I gave is for the one about five miles southeast of Brodnica:

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szczutowo_%28powiat_brodnicki%29
TheOther  6 | 3596  
25 Sep 2015 /  #5
Okay, that village was part of the German Empire until 1918 - Landkreis Strasburg, Regierungsbezirk Marienwerder, to be exact. Since your grandmother was born in 1882, there's a good chance that the civil registration record for her birth has survived the war. On that record, the birth dates of the parents are usually also given. If not, there is still a very good chance to find the civil registration record for their marriage in the archives. Just start looking about 1 year prior to the birth of the first child, and then move forward in time.

Many of the West Prussian records are now either in the Landesarchiv Berlin ( landesarchiv-berlin.de/lab-neu/home.htm) or in the Polish state archive that is in charge. Not sure which one that is in this case; either Toruń (torun.ap.gov.pl/en/index.php?show=zasob) or Bydgoszcz ( bydgoszcz.ap.gov.pl).

Good luck.
OP Ballenisles1  1 | 2  
6 Oct 2015 /  #6
Thank you all for your information and great suggestions.

Wishing you the best,

Diane Fiedler

My Grandmother's birth certificate was registered in Swiedziebnia, so I believe she was from one of the two Szczutowo's in woj. Kujaskow-Pomorskie. Is it common to have 3 villages, so close in proximity to each other, with the same name? How do you differentiate between them? The Other, you said that Cecylia's village was part of the German Empire. However, on the Immigration Form in 1903, it is shown that they were emigrating from Russia Poland. Just another mystery to try and solve!! Not to sound pompous but if I sent an email to the Polish Archives written in English, do you think it likely there would be someone there who could translate it to Polish? Is there usually a service fee?

I'm now going to try and locate the Catholic Church in their village. I would love to learn if my Grandmother had any siblings. I thought the Church might still have baptismal or marriage records from that time period on file. From what I've read, these "Communes" do not have many residents. I'm really hoping that someone may know or have heard of these two families. We'll see.....
TheOther  6 | 3596  
23 Oct 2015 /  #7
if I sent an email to the Polish Archives written in English, do you think it likely there would be someone there who could translate it to Polish? Is there usually a service fee?

You can write in English, but it might take quite some time to get a response, which is - at least in my experience - always in Polish. Provide as many details as possible, and if you're lucky you will receive a message telling you to transfer a certain amount of money to Poland for the copies they will send you. Fees have to be paid in advance and are very reasonable.

Is it common to have 3 villages, so close in proximity to each other, with the same name?

Oftentimes, there were remote farmhouses that (administratively) belonged to the same village.
OP Ballenisles1  1 | 2  
27 Oct 2015 /  #8
Thanks so much for the reply, Other. I'll give it a try.
TheOther  6 | 3596  
27 Oct 2015 /  #9
Good luck, Diane.

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