Polish nationality? Which of the following (if any) determine being Polish.

someone here have claimed that Celts are the lost tribe of Slavs ;)

In old times there were brothers named: Lech, Czech, Rus... and maybe the forgooten one oldest Seamus ;D

That would be Crow :) I could claim that my member is black but would you believe me? Claims are often just claims :)

Do you descend from Russians as some claim? ;) ;)

Am I Polish because I eat cabbage? That should enter the equation ;)

wow, what disease is that?! ;D


What if Russians descend from Poles? ;)


Seanus we live in free world, if you like you can even claim you are a hipo :)

Have you heard about Spis powszechny in 2002??? What's your wife's family declared about nationality?

They have to grant us our own state and we get to run it. New Jersey could be ours and we can decide who lives there.

Can we still visit the beaches?

Beaches would belong to the Polish Nation.

But can we still visit them? ...and hook up with all the hot Polish chicks who come there to work for the summer? :D

My grandparents were from the Austrian-occupied part of Poland. They came to the USA in the early 1900's. Are you saying that all the citizens of that partition of Poland became Austrians in nationality during the occupation? Because that is just ridiculous - a person cannot go from having Polish blood in his veins one day to Austrian blood in his veins the next day! And then, during the war, when the Germans occupied Poland, the people's blood became German? That is a bunch of hogwash!!

The people of "the country formerly known as Poland" were Polish before the Partitions, during the Partitions, and after the Partitions. The name of the country didn't matter. The people still retained their Polish ethnicity!


Speaking for myself, I do not claim to be POLISH. I am POLISH-AMERICAN. Or, as someone mentioned earlier, I am an American of Polish descent. I do not speak Polish. Well, I know a few words here and there, but that's all. My 2nd generation parents spoke Polish, but they never taught me. Now I would like to learn the language, but they are both dead, and so are all four of my grandparents. I have an aunt who is fairly fluent in Polish, but she lives 1 1/2 hours away. No colleges around here offer Polish classes, and I've heard it is a difficult language to learn on one's own. So, I am rather stuck. Is it my fault that I never learned how to speak Polish? Am I somehow "less Polish", oh excuse me, "less Polish-American", because I do not know Polish??

Why can't you be just "American-American"?What is wrong with that?Nothing personal,be whoever you want to be I don't care,but the fact is that the most of the self proclaimed "Polish Americans" with their antiqes (e.g "bushas" "babushkas" "polka dancing " "holubkis" and so on) are embarassment for REAL Poles.Lately one of the "Polish" Americans told me he wants to tatoo a "Polish Falcon" on his arm.I was like "a Polish Falcon"? oh okey go for it.So tell me me why don't you guys (Pol-Ams) just leave Poland alone since you have no connection with the country.

What it means "REAL Poles" ?

blood (genetics) and culture, religion. ;-)
You can not choose where you are born, your parents decide this for you. As a child you can't decide where in this world you want to be and grow up, which therefore has an impact on your knowledge of Polish (if you raised in an other country). But if you look like a Pole (because your genes), exercise our religion and culture and you feel Polish, you love Poland, then you are definitive Polish. But you need the Polish genes, which is the most important. If you have enough of it you will feel automatically as a Pole and you feel attracted to your origin country and want be be with your compatriot, so why not go back for example?!


Do not go crazy with it BookOwl :-). You have Polish blood, If you feel Polish, and you love your origin country, come back, learn your origin language and people and live. You have the Polish Blood so it would be not too difficult to learn it, believe me. I had two half-Polish in my akademia i study, they learned it quick. But don't stay in America anymore, because you do not go further with your Polish roots. It's about what you want, how you feel.

Oh yea?So tell me how exactly the Poles look like.Genes?Get a life, I was born and raised in Poland and I am a Pole even though one of my Grandmas was 100% German.

Again, you can't choose where in this world you slip out lmao! You have Polish genes, so you are Polish. Everyone who has Polish blood and the proud is Polish. You're lucky like me to be born and raised in Poland. But if you are 30 of age, still not speak the language and never thinking of to go to Poland, It's high time for you baby, or you're no more a proud Pole = you almost really can't call yourself anymore Polish.

So, You are not a 100% (REAL) Pole ;)

That's mean, you can see how proud Polish he is! Maybe he has not received genes from German :-) we hope for him!

Yea, he is on the right track.

Right should I call myself a Polish German or German Polish?.BS, I have nothing to do with Germany.


I am still waiting to see how the Poles look like.All todays Poles are a mix of Polish,German,Russian,Jewish,Dutch,Ukrainians,Tatars and only God knows what else genes.To be Polish is to be raised in Poland ,feel Polish,understand languange and culture.It has nothing to do with genes.

good ;-) you are really on the right track


It has to do with genes! You can't be Polish without Polish blood! If you are mixed with an other country, you need enough Polish genes to feel Polish!

Polish look Polish, Polish-Slavic, East-Slavic. Sorry I know how a Polish look like.

There are a lot Slavic countries, Serbia, Czech, Ukraine etc. But Polish look very very different than for example Serbs. I would say Polish look more like Russians.

Strange you lived all your live in Poland and don't know how Polish people look like.
But sometimes it's difficult. some Polish People you could also say he/she is Russian, or even with Slovaks can not be classified correctly by from which Slavic country he/she is.

In a nutshell: Serbs, Croats or Kosovans it is sometimes difficult to say from where he/she is (For example a Serb: is he from Serbia or Kosovo?). The same with Czechs, Poles or Russians = The Slavic people from the South (Serbia etc.) look very differently than the other from the East (Belarus etc.)

But you see the Slavic and one who know people from different Slavic countrys can say whether he/she is more likely from the south or from east.

In Poland, Russia, Czech Republic, Belarus have a lot very light skin, blond hair, blue eyes. In the south you will find almost no blonde people, black hair, brown eyes and the skin is not as light.

That's it.


So if were born to Russian parents, and adopted by a Polish family as an infant, grew up in Poland, never leaves Poland, that person could never feel Polish?

Does Pilsudski pass the test? How about Poles with German last names? Kashubians?

I'm willing to put you to the test on Pole spotting. I don't think you could Poles out of a random lineup.

This "looks like" is BS and means nothing.

I arguably look German, my wife has been mistaken for French, my friend looks Spanish.

We are all completely Irish - how far do you need to go back?

Maybe a few hundred years ago we had non-Irish blood but our parents, their parents, their parents and their parents were certainly all Irish.

So yes you have most Irish blood, so you feel Irish.

Russia and Poland are nighbours and slavic countrys, have a lot in common, not like for example Italy and Poland. But anyway, then he is Russian but his home is Poland.

Maybe they have Jewish roots? Many definitely!
Or they have both, German and Polish blood but feel Polish because they have more Polish genes and prefer to live in Poland?

Yes, that's what I'm sort of saying too.


What?!

So you're saying that I feel Irish simply because my bloodline is strongly Irish, but not due to cultural/political reasons, reasons of birth etc?

No, you need the blood and the culture of course, but birth don't matter. Again, you can't choose where in this world you slip out! lmao

Pilsudski, Copernicus, Chopin, Matejko, Kosciuszko... all not Polish?

No of course not, but the point being that if you "slip out" in Ireland you are entitled to be regarded as an Irish citizen - regardless of your parents. So technically, you are already Irish.

Spend all your life there and your parents don't keep any cultural links with their country, completely assimilate into Ireland and Irishness, and you're pretty much there.

Why can't I just be proud of my Polish heritage? What is wrong with that???? And don't go talking to me about "REAL" Poles. Who are you to judge who are the real Poles and who aren't? You are just jealous because you do not live in the USA, the greatest country in the world, the land of the free and the home of the brave!!!

You see, I am proud of being an American first, and then I am proud of my Polish heritage. And no matter what you say, I will always feel that way.

Yes, I would love to visit Poland sometime soon, but it is not possible for me to live there. It is not just about what I want and how I feel. I have a husband and children here in America. My husband is a tenured professor and the assistant chairman of the Mathematics Department at a university here. He cannot just pick up and leave to move to a foreign country. Nor would he want to. He does not have any Polish blood, so I don't think he would be thrilled about moving to Poland. My kids would probably not be too happy about it, either. They have their happy life here, with their school, friends, sports, etc.


You said the PolAms should leave Poland alone. What are we doing to it? How are we offending it? What have PolAms ever done to you to make you so hateful towards us? And, by the way, doesn't the fact that all four of my grandparents emigrated from "the country formerly known as Poland" give me a connection to Poland?

Actually, he does!

Pilsudski, Copernicus, Chopin

Piłsudski wanted to sway the Lithuanian government as he himself saw himself as being of Lithuanian stock. Widely regarded as Polish but, then again, widely regarded isn't definitive.

Copernicus? Tough one! He wanted to defend Olsztyn castle against the Knights of the Teutonic Order (Germanic) so that tells you a thing or two. Also, his father was Polish.

Chopin? French influence very much overplayed.

Ok ,now I exactly know who you are.You are retarded,indoctrinated and brain washed American.(Just to make it clear I know for sure that NOT every American is retarded or brainwashed).And I am NOT jealous dude.I DO live in the US,won't stay here forever though.The country has its pros and cons but goes down the hill quickly.And spare me this "greatest country in the world, the land of the free and the home of the brave" propaganda BS.Will you?

Whatever,be whoever you want to be.None of my bussines.Off topic but listening to Americans you may start thinking that the world is still turning around only thanks to United States.