Mayonnaise and ketchup in Poland

Many Poles believe cabbage is Polish but is was passed from Asians to Celts in around the 6thC, I think. The same with ketchup. It originates in Asia so cannot be considered Polish or American. However, Heinz was American long before it started operations abroad. Saying one food is from this or that country based on common association is fraught with pitfalls. As another poster said, it is often passed on and adapted from long, long ago.

Seanus! First of all, I completely misread you before. You simply said ketchup had been an American invention, didn't you? I simply misinterpreted your words and am extremely sorry for it.

Second thing, and I am red in my face now since I was giving some non-verified facts. Accept my apologies, Seanus...

1. The Heinz ketchup and the Pudliszki ketchup, both presumably made in Pudliszki, Krobia, Poland, are not the same ketchups at all.
Heinz: No starch added, 1320 grams of fresh tomato per 1 kilogram of ketchup;
Pudliszki: Starch added, 1930 grams of fresh tomato per 1 kilogram of ketchup.
Meaning, more tomato in Pudliszki, zero starch in Heinz. As I have been able to check, Heinz is the only "true" ketchup available in Poland, meaning, no starch thickener.

2. It is not clear where Heinz Ketchup is really made. The label reads: "Your comments are to be send to the producer: Pudliszki..." but there is no clear message such as "Made in Poland".

Heinz

Pudliszki

Sorry, Seanus!
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No, I said Heinz was American ;) ;) Ketchup is Asian, Catsup American ;) No probs, AS

Made in Poland under license from an American firm ;)

Your apologies are gratiously accepted but not needed.

Come on, don`t be ridiculous ( the production is in Poland so it is made in Poland , who cares where the head office is ) it could be on the Virgin Islands or on the Moon .

The thread is about Polish food not about joint - stock company share`s ownership .

So Heinz is Polish and not American? Either you are provoking me or are revelling in the absurd? Ketchup is NOT a Polish food, end of. It's a food eaten in Poland but that doesn't make it Polish, does it?

THEY MAKE BEANS.... i love beans....

Let me add this to that....

I know the Heinz Ketchup in Canada / US is different from that in PL. I am used to the North American taste, and can tell the difference in flavour while in PL. There is another brand (can't remember the name...) that is a little sweet for me.

Heinz is from right here in lovely Pennsylvania and tomato ketchup is American as well. Even that Pudliszki ketchup I love so much is owned by Heinz now. This is from where the confusion may have come from, since it's a household name in Poland as well.

Exactly! Ketchup is Asian, I have to correct you.

Sorry, AS, I thought I was in Colombia for a moment there.

and I thought tomatoes came from America?

not what we call ketchup today, the name yes. It was originally and i quote " a concoction of pickled fish and spices" modern day tomato ketchup was discovery centuries later in America.

Now you are talking funny . Do you think that a certain product becomes strictly American because once upon a time , one american made a tomato sauce , put it into a bottle and labelled it as ketchup .

I will not respond to your absurd comments.

You talk nonsense ( not the first time I remember matura thread and your suggestion that a colloquial name is used in formal translation , a lot of people gave a link to the official polish ministry of education where the name of Maturity Certificate was an official name , but you were still clutching to your false opinion ) .If you can`t even admit that sometimes you are maybe wrong , it seems to me that your comments are not valuable.

My answer is contained in the question -

How do you know that there was no tomato sauce ( brand name - ketchup )in the stone age? Maybe few tribes invented it in the same time - Slavs or Celts, maybe Chinese or Native Americans had the privilege to taste it before americans . What made you so sure about that LOL.

Not correct, AS, but offer his opinion RIP. It is different.

Monia, I proved you wrong on the Matura thread so just leave it. Read above, I said it was Asian in origin. Read up on it. The modern version may be American but it is Asian in origin. I suggest some maturity for you.

Besides, it's not Polish so you are well off topic. Any uniquely Polish foods, Monia? Come on, give us a laugh.

We do know that there was no tomato sauce in Africa, Asia, and Europe in the stone age because the tomato is native to the Americas and it was not found in the Old World until after it was imported following the voyage of Columbus.

Native americans did first , is that right ?

No, the Chinese did

Yes