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Coffee in Poland: cheap and undrinkable / expensive and good


bullfrog  6 | 602  
2 Oct 2011 /  #31
Go until noon without a coffee and see what happens to your body.

do it all the time especially when on holidays and nothing happens..
pip  10 | 1658  
2 Oct 2011 /  #32
well then you are lucky. I used to have an addiction to coffee- I kicked it. There is enough documentation on caffeine addiction- you can google it yourself if you don't believe me. Just because it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
2 Oct 2011 /  #33
Strangely enough, it doesn't effect me as well - it just doesn't work. I remember once trying to drive back from Warsaw to Poznan late at night when really tired, drank about 4-5 coffees on the way and didn't feel a difference at all.
bullfrog  6 | 602  
2 Oct 2011 /  #34
i tried the same, drinking plenty of coffee for long car jouneys (warsaw to london or paris) but it did not work.. only thing i found to make a difference is red bull.. same goes on for smoking, i have times when i smoke quite a bit and then i stop, with no particular consequence, no craving... as i speak, haven't smoked for a month..
FUZZYWICKETS  8 | 1878  
2 Oct 2011 /  #35
red bull works for me every time. that and mountain dew.
Teffle  22 | 1318  
4 Oct 2011 /  #36
mountain dew

Jesus, again with this stuff.

I give up.

I'm now going to have to try it.
FUZZYWICKETS  8 | 1878  
5 Oct 2011 /  #37
teffle wrote:

I'm now going to have to try it.

good idea. just make sure it's MD from America. the stuff in Poland is pure shite. a completely different drink. on a blind taste test, i wouldn't even recognize it. i would say, "some nasty shite i don't recognize".....if we're being specific.
peterweg  37 | 2305  
5 Oct 2011 /  #38
people in poland always used to tell me that coffee in the USA is too weak

I find that in a lot of diners etc. But polish people like their coffee double strength, so I don't think its the coffee thats the problem in the US.

I was slightly surprised when I was told that two large teaspoons of instant was normal in Poland - thats double what it says on the jar.
Leopejo  4 | 120  
5 Oct 2011 /  #39
And still no Pole I know wants to try Italian moka or espresso, as it is too strong for their taste.
pip  10 | 1658  
5 Oct 2011 /  #40
not me- I am dying for one....but then again I only live in Poland, I am not actually Polish.
bullfrog  6 | 602  
5 Oct 2011 /  #41
I don't think its the coffee thats the problem in the US.

The liquid that is called coffee (free refills, anyone??) in the USA is whatever you want but not coffee. Likewise for beer (Budweiser and the like)

And still no Pole I know wants to try Italian moka or espresso, as it is too strong for their taste.

Just go to the Nespresso shop on Nowy Swiat and you will find plenty of Poles that enjoy expresso
Sidliste_Chodov  1 | 438  
12 Dec 2011 /  #42
Just go to the Nespresso shop on Nowy Swiat and you will find plenty of Poles that enjoy expresso

I'll be there soon :)

Look where coffee heaven have "expanded" to:

Maybe someone should fix that code, innit. lol :D
FUZZYWICKETS  8 | 1878  
12 Dec 2011 /  #43
bullfrog wrote:

The liquid that is called coffee (free refills, anyone??) in the USA is whatever you want but not coffee.

yet Starbucks in Poland, or Europe for that matter, is absolutely packed, all day every day.

I still refer back to when my in-laws where here. they loved the coffee here and actually bought a few lbs. to take back with them. i wouldn't know one from the other, i don't drink coffee at all, but my in-laws sure liked it.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
12 Dec 2011 /  #44
yet Starbucks in Poland, or Europe for that matter, is absolutely packed, all day every day.

Style over substance, indeed.

Always admired the way that Starbucks managed to create some sort of mystique about the place, despite the fact that the coffee sucks and the place sucks.
PennBoy  76 | 2429  
12 Dec 2011 /  #45
Style over substance, indeed.

Yea Starbucks is for 'coffee people' to hang out there with a laptop.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
12 Dec 2011 /  #46
Not a "laptop", but a Mac. Must be a Mac. :)

(and they're as much coffee people as I am, and I know nothing about the stuff and don't drink much of it)
FUZZYWICKETS  8 | 1878  
13 Dec 2011 /  #47
delphiandomine wrote:

Style over substance, indeed.

nonetheless, the place is jammed.

delphiandomine wrote:

despite the fact that the coffee sucks and the place sucks.

Like I said, I've never had their coffee, or any coffee for that matter really, but hell....it's probably the single most successful coffee chain in the world. Can the coffee possibly "suck"? Are people paying $3-$4 a cup for shite coffee.....over and over and over?

And what's wrong with the "place"?
pip  10 | 1658  
13 Dec 2011 /  #48
starbucks doesn't suck. there are better places but here in Poland there are not. I think their "fancy" drinks are over the top- I stick to a latte, tea or regular coffee.
cms  9 | 1253  
13 Dec 2011 /  #49
I dont much like their coffee but I drink in Starbucks more often here than I do in other countries. There are a few advantages over regular coffee places.

- it has a clean toilet and you dont have to ask for the key.
- they are polite and serve you quickly.
- the food is not exciting but its not too fatty or greasy or old.
- there is wifi that is easy to operate and doesnt need any codes.

I think both Starbucks and Coffee Heaven are really expensive now - if its just a coffee for the train or a 10 minute sit down I often now just fo to McD or KFC where coffee is 4 zlots instead of 10.
peterweg  37 | 2305  
13 Dec 2011 /  #50
I'm re-assessing my coffee buying after seeing 200g of Gold Blend for 38.50pln. Coffee beans are 1/3 the price... wtf.
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
13 Dec 2011 /  #51
Always admired the way that Starbucks managed to create some sort of mystique about the place, despite the fact that the coffee sucks and the place sucks.

Well put! Burnt, funky tasting coffee. I think the first step towards their mystique was appealing to women, who will often choose style over substance and then they managed to rope in the guys who went there to "study" and dumb crap like that.

Lots of followers to be found in those joints.
pip  10 | 1658  
13 Dec 2011 /  #52
maybe there should be a Tim Hortons??
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
13 Dec 2011 /  #53
Ah yes, Timmy's, the blue collar answer to charbucks....i think i'll leave both of those options to their present customer bases.
pip  10 | 1658  
13 Dec 2011 /  #54
so you don't drink starbucks or tim hortons because you don't like the people that buy their coffee. that is silly.
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
13 Dec 2011 /  #55
Was it really so hard for you not to make a such an assumption?
I already wrote that I like NEITHER the people nor the coffee at starbucks. Timmy's is just really really busy and the coffee isn't enough to make up for that. Sorry if this matters to you.
FUZZYWICKETS  8 | 1878  
13 Dec 2011 /  #56
Foreigner4 wrote:

Ah yes, Timmy's, the blue collar answer to charbucks

i don't really see why Starbucks would be labeled "white collar". when i would go into the Starbucks in Wroclaw, the place was filled with young people, maybe 16-25. these are not people with money, simply people willing to spend all that money on coffee.....for whatever reason. hell, if that same 19 year old goes out on saturday and drops 30-40zl at the bar on beers, spending 10zl on coffee a couple times a week should't be much worse. that's the day they eat Knorr soup packets and a paczek.

sure, the image of Starbucks is coffee with sophistication....or something like that.....but to buy a cup a' joe there once or twice a week....people do it, regardless of the reason why they go there.
JonnyM  11 | 2607  
13 Dec 2011 /  #57
so you don't drink starbucks or tim hortons because you don't like the people that buy their coffee. that is silly.

I've never heard of Tim Horton's, but one reason to avoid Starbucks (apart from the silly prices, loud music and irritating clientele are the allegations that they use their financial clout to put independent competitors out of business.

seattlepi.com/business/article/Suit-says-Starbucks-squashed-rival-shop-1215527.php

In Warsaw, Green Coffee (a local company) is expanding and is a class apart.
aphrodisiac  11 | 2427  
13 Dec 2011 /  #58
In Warsaw, Green Coffee (a local company) is expanding and is a class apart.

in Warsaw, but not here. I have no alternative. There is a coffee place with good coffee, but the stuff is in a bad mood all the time - no thanks- it is just coffee;)
FUZZYWICKETS  8 | 1878  
13 Dec 2011 /  #59
JonnyM wrote:

they use their financial clout to put independent competitors out of business.

hahahahaha, so in other words, they do what every single other big company does or is currently trying to do.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
13 Dec 2011 /  #60
these are not people with money, simply people willing to spend all that money on coffee.....for whatever reason. hell, if that same 19 year old goes out on saturday and drops 30-40zl at the bar on beers, spending 10zl on coffee a couple times a week should't be much worse. that's the day they eat Knorr soup packets and a paczek.

You do realise that in a place like Wroclaw, there's plenty of people aged between 16-25 with wealthy parents who support them?

They certainly aren't eating "soup packets" and "paczek" - more likely, they'll be driving to Starbucks in their nice new car, before going shopping in Arkady and perhaps finishing the day with dinner in Masala or similar.

Incidentally, I don't know any students who live off soup packets and paczek. Where'd you meet such people?

Well put! Burnt, funky tasting coffee. I think the first step towards their mystique was appealing to women, who will often choose style over substance and then they managed to rope in the guys who went there to "study" and dumb crap like that.

Pretty much exactly that. Horrible coffee, horrible people (look at me mum, i'm drinking STARBUCKS) and absolutely nothing worth going there for. At least in Poznan, there are millions of independently-owned cafes that serve far better coffee in a far more pleasant environment.

Like I said, I've never had their coffee, or any coffee for that matter really, but hell....it's probably the single most successful coffee chain in the world. Can the coffee possibly "suck"? Are people paying $3-$4 a cup for shite coffee.....over and over and over?

They're not paying for the coffee, they're paying for the image. Look at me, I drink in Starbucks, I'm SOMEONE. The aforementioned students are the worst for this - they're drinking it with daddy's money, yet they think they're somehow superior to everyone else. Same thing throughout the world - Starbucks is just utterly bland.

the allegations that they use their financial clout to put independent competitors out of business.

Nothing new there.

The only good thing about Starbucks in Poland is that you're more or less guaranteed that the service won't suck.

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