I'm 19, born in Poland, raised in the U.S. Moving to Poland..or not?

ok. moving to poland has always been on my mind and thank god i found this thread. start off, im 19, born in poland, raised in the U.S.(new york), sincei was 3. i speak and write english fluently but have attended polish school for eight years. my family speaks polish such as mom and dad, but me nd my brothers and sister speak english together because it helps here to know fluent english. iv been to poland a couple of times, but im still young to realize the real problems it has. i LOVE the girls there and not the fat and ugly black, spanish, andamerican girlsin new york....yuck! i also fell in love with the techno clubs(smigno klub 139 =p). i have lots of family there and i do miss them all. plus i also met a girl that i want to be with...now iv been ttold that work sucks in poland unless you know the language. i might not right perfect perfect polish but i do speak it fluently and noone can tell im american or vise-reversa. im going to a two year college now and hopefully i can be a translator of some sort, because i was offered a job already to consider...now my question is should i risk it and go there because i really love it there, even though everyone wants to go to US, or should i stay here and suck it up nd MYABE find a job in this recession we are having...please help me(nie mam pojecia co robic!!!!). other places i considered is california but i wont be able to be with the girl unless i marry her so she can be legal in the US... ID LOVE TO HEAR FROM ANYONE!!! thanx...

You're only 19. You got your whole life in front of you. Try new things and find what you want. Go to Poland and see how u like it, but you will come back after a while anyway.

thanks for the reply. well i do think so that ill come back. the best part for me is that i can go back and forth like if money isan issue, then i can come back to the US ndwork fora littlebit. i might be19 but ive lived through a couple things.im just the type of person thats kinda emotionally attached to poland and my many family members there...plus i want to start off on the right foot, so i dont want to leave and later come back for domething to be too late....

Can't do everything in life. Follow your heart.

heart says to go, but i have to be economically set. without money you cant really do anything...

More to the point, if you're in Poland with no degree and not working towards one - you're not going to find it easy.

A two year degree won't be enough in Poland, that much is certain.

korek

Yeah go to Poland and struggle...

If you're going to Poland because you like their clubs... you might be better off just going there for vacation... enjoy the family, friends, food, music, girls, and people for a while, a month or so, and then return to reality, back to work, study well so you can save up and go back again soon.

I think you should either go to Poland for a bit (1-2 yrs) and then return to the US to go to college. This is a good option if all you want to do is travel/relax. Don't expect to find a job in poland without an education (unless you're self employed).

Or
Go to college (4yr degree) in the US first and then go to poland - maybe to work, setup a business or whatever.

IMO the second option is best.

thanks...the most logical thing to do is stay in th US and make a good career and just visit poland durring vacation. i just dont want to miss out on all the fun of being young and partying in poland. life in th US isnt the most relaxing. i would love to go there at my age now (better if earlier) and just have fun and come back. the downside, i might be wasting time instead of getting an education, but atleast i already did everything i wanted in poland...

Travelling is an education in its self, study for a couple of years and take a year out and go to Poland and then come back and finish off your education.....Most people I know took a year out, its a "half way" solution...You could always study in Poland?

Korek, you are one disgusting racist " i LOVE the girls there and not the fat and ugly black, spanish, andamerican girlsin new york....yuck!"

That's really wierd, the most rascist "Poles" I have encountered on all come from the U.S.A really wierd.

That is how it works in the US.

Through out the 19th and mid 20th century, Poles had it bad in the US, often considered little better then black people, who were easily stuck at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder for obvious reasons. For a long time being "white" meant you were an Angelo-Saxon Protestant and not much else. So more or less a transplanted Englishman. It was acceptable to be Roman Catholic if maybe you were French, but defiantly not Irish, Italian, or Polish etc...

Often the only advantages Poles had in the US was that they weren't blacks, and they were limited to the same crappy jobs that Mexicans do in the US now. But in the modern US, education trumps all because it is so intertwined with material success. So it is no surprise that the children of immigrants who value academic success... i.e Eastern Europeans, Jews, or Asians etc... do very well in the future.

So, I guess there are two ways to look at it. #1, you have empathy for those at the bottom because you, or your elders, experienced the same abuse.

#2, conversely, the cycle of discrimination and abuse continues because it is all they know and now that they are now in a position to discriminate, its just natural. I think #2 is far more common.

Korek,

I feel my situation is a tad similar to yours.
I'm an Irish/Pole, however, I was born in England and grew up here my whole life.
I attended polish saturday school up to 6th class.
Then I left, but I continued with Polish language at school (I was lucky enough to have a polish speaking teacher willing to teach me working at my school).

The class consisted of two people, just me and Arek.
Together we completed our Polish GCSE, and A2 levels.
I feel this has kept up my polish language/writing skills to a decent level.

I know none of my Irish family I mean absolutley zero and all my Polish family are in Poland :(
So are most of my friends, and my long term boyfriend also lives in Poland.
I really want to move back to Poland, however I wouldn't do it right away.
I know things with my boyfriend might change so I'm not rushing over to live with him right away, we are both willing to ride it out and wait, I don't think you should be rushing over for the girls either.

I'm planning on staying in the UK for Uni completing an Econ/Russian Degree.
The education here is amazing and cheap for a home student.
I'm sure it would be the same for you in the US, you would also be of more value to potential polish employers.

Although if you wish you might consider taking a TESOL course and applying to teach english at the independant schools in Poland?

You have forever to move their so do try and get some fall back before you take the leap, it might not always work out.

That's debatable.


You seem very immature for 19.

Grass always seams greener on the other side. And if you believe the girls are better in Poland (ha ha) then you have to experience it yourself. But don't cry running back that they only liked you for your money.


see if it's more relaxing in Poland. If you can get an honest job.

19 I still think is a little young. However, explore the world my friend and don't look back. Some people will say don't come without an education, you wont make it and what not; some other people might say come but don't stay for long.

Look at it this way, no one here can tell you anything you don't already know. I am in a similar situation as you however I'm 25 and your 19. The only thing I can tell you is just do it man, if it works out good for you, if it does not work out, oh what the hell at least your tried.

I'm here, I did it, do I regret it? no :)

by the way black chicks are way hotter and more mature than the whities

This is true.. My poor grandma got called a Cat licker in hillbilly South Carolina. They even threw rocks at her for being Catholic.

[quote=darby101]by the way black chicks are way hotter and more mature than the whities

darby, thats funny how you called out racist, but you seem to be one yourself.

Ok back it up then, enlighten me

I just love guest posters:)

ummm darby, who the **** needs ur comments on racism here? maybe ur one of those fat ugly chicks? this thread is about moving there and not racism. to clear it up, some spanish and blacks are good lookin, i even had a spanish girlfriend. but who in the world wants a fat chick as a wife?? honestly... its a guy thing so just stay out.

Korek, I am a guy and I am also 19. and pretty soon will be moving out of my country just like you.let me clear things a bit for you, I am from a country where me and my people know what it exactly means to be insulted all the time not because something wrong we did but simply because we are a minority (christians live in the fourth biggest Muslim state) so our Muslim MASTERS thinks we are ugly and wrong all the time only because we are different than them. compare your situation with mine, you think fat, black and spanish girls are ugly and wrong why??? only because they are different than you Mr. white, blonde and skinny youngster, and boy you would be so darn mistaken if you thought that someone who is different than you means they are wrong. and who the **** do you think you are to judge a REAL WOMEN with some curves??

lol! that's the truth!