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No US Visa Waiver for Poles - 8/9/07


NoToVisas_:P  
15 Sep 2007 /  #31
You know, not everyone goes to US to work or use social benefits. Some people would like to move there for personal reasons and nothing would probably keep them there otherwise.

And visa waiver does not mean a right to work. This could be dealt with a simple work permit with less paperwork for potential employees. It's easier now, when it's simply uneconomic to go to US to work as a waiter if the ticket for 10h long flight costs you 1000$ and you earn 6$/hour. Ticket for a 2h flight to UK costs up to 100$ and you earn 6Pounds/hour.

IMO US is locking their borders for more educated people who would like to, for example intern in an american company or for specialists who could share and exchange knowledge.

This is also friggen bad for poor people who would like to be with each other for a few months without a need to make a serious commitment or simple trying to find a loophole in the system.
Casimir  2 | 45  
15 Sep 2007 /  #32
There are too many poles (and pretty much every other nationality) overstaying their freakin visas these days...
marek s  - | 269  
15 Sep 2007 /  #33
I do not know about illegal Polish immigrants

here in chicago, we have over a million poles. illegal immigrants within the polish community is rampant.
plk123  8 | 4119  
15 Sep 2007 /  #34
IMO US is locking their borders for more educated people who would like to, for example intern in an american company or for specialists who could share and exchange knowledge.

is that why i have been meetin all kinds of polish students bussing tables? or working the banquet industry?
Dougm1966  
22 Sep 2007 /  #35
I'm new on the forum...And I'd like to point out something pretty important here... There is a quote in the first post of this thread that people have seemed to miss....and just start bashing Bush. I can't seem to find the controls to use the quote feature....I surely wish I could...anyways..that's not the important issue here.....The important issue is that George Bush SUPPORTED the POLES>>>> It was the DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS that doesn't support the poles

Please take a moment read it Again and wake up...It's not the Bush administration being un-supportive.... It's the people like Hilary and Obama...

[/QUOTE]The Bush
administration had reportedly supported
waiving visas for Poles due to the country’s
strong support in the US-led wars in Iraq
and Afghanistan, but failed to win congressional
backing for the move.[QUOTE]
randompal  7 | 306  
2 Oct 2007 /  #36
So? Many Poles don't like the US anyway. They say that since it joined the Union they get better pay in European countries.

That's not the point, the visa waiver program is for tourist visas not work visas. Now there's another good lesson in gratitude for the good people of Poland:) Let's congratulate all the Poles who overstayed their visas and ruined it for the rest, who just wanted a visa to visit Ciocia Zosia. What with the sinking dollar, the percentage of Poles who overstay their tourist visas will drop faster than a dress on prom night since it won't make financial sense to work in the USA, but it WILL make sense to breeze over to Amercia for a quick shopping trip. Then those jackals in Congress will give Poles visa waivers fo' sho'
Ranj  21 | 947  
2 Oct 2007 /  #37
randompal

You sound bitter.....what?.....did ypu overstay your Visa?
plk123  8 | 4119  
2 Oct 2007 /  #38
lol.. good one ranj. :D :D
krysia  23 | 3058  
2 Oct 2007 /  #39
since it won't make financial sense to work in the USA,

That's all what the Poles think about. Money.
plk123  8 | 4119  
2 Oct 2007 /  #40
and what USA is full of socialists? enron, tyco.. do you need more?
FISZ  24 | 2116  
2 Oct 2007 /  #41
What are you doing here if you hate it so much PLK? Pa!
krysia  23 | 3058  
2 Oct 2007 /  #42
There is more to life than money. In the US people work because they have to pay for bills, taxes, etc. Poles when they come here, specially those illegal ones, don't pay taxes, they live 10 in a room and don't have many bills because they want to save their money so when they go back to Poland they can show off how much they made and buy that new car and other toys.
plk123  8 | 4119  
2 Oct 2007 /  #43
What are you doing here if you hate it so much PLK? Pa!

who said i hate it here? find it where i said so in my 900+ posts.

There is more to life than money. In the US people work because they have to pay for bills, taxes, etc. Poles when they come here, specially those illegal ones, don't pay taxes, they live 10 in a room and don't have many bills because they want to save their money so when they go back to Poland they can show off how much they made and buy that new car and other toys

and you know this for a 100% fact that applies to all of the poles that are here? you have to be kidding me... are you telling me that americans aren't gready?
krysia  23 | 3058  
2 Oct 2007 /  #44
who said i hate it here?

You don't say it directly but it can be sensed by your posts.
FISZ  24 | 2116  
2 Oct 2007 /  #45
I just see negativity towards Americans in 800+ of them :)
plk123  8 | 4119  
2 Oct 2007 /  #46
You don't say it directly but it can be sensed by your posts.

I just see negativity towards Americans in 800+ of them :)

your senses must be off.. i hate shrubco and all his cohorts not america. i am extrememly dissappointed that americans became sheep and attacked a once sovereign nation for no valid reason. how many innocent dead in iraq? at least 20k by us military numbers released yesterday... some studies suggest a number at least 5x that. that makes me pissed off.. smells of hitler.
Kaczor Duck  2 | 95  
2 Oct 2007 /  #47
Hillary Clinton & Barrack Obama will change everything...they love Polish people.

Hello, are you listening????
Congress voted it down not Bush, And who runs the Congress????
Hillary and Barrak??
if you are going to make things political blame the people who voted it down, the Democrates run the congress, so if you want this you need to vote those bumbs out, get off Bush, all he can do is ask for it,and he cant do it himself, thats why we have a congress and not a dictatorship. I am sorry but I am tired of people always blaming Bush for all their problems, call barrak and hillary and ask them why they didnt vote for it??? Novel Idea eh?
krysia  23 | 3058  
2 Oct 2007 /  #48
and you know this for a 100% fact that applies to all of the poles that are here? you have to be kidding me... are you telling me that americans aren't gready?

I never said it applies to all Poles. People are greedy everywhere in the world. But many Poles coming from a poorer upringing when come to US, change. They lose themselves in the dollar signs and want more and more, like the gold rush.

And I'm stressing the fact that not everyone is the same, but the general observation.
Zgubiony  15 | 1274  
2 Oct 2007 /  #49
at least 20k by us military numbers released yesterday... some studies suggest a number at least 5x that. that makes me pissed off.. smells of hitler.

42+ million is a little more drastic than 20k. I don't agree with what the current admin is doing either, but it's a horrible comparison. IMO
plk123  8 | 4119  
2 Oct 2007 /  #50
we're not done killing just yet.. how many in afghanistan? i don't think 20k is even remotely near the real number. we're killing iraqis at higher rate the saddam ever did.

i can't believe you guys/gals are making excuses for the war machine.. the fact that irq was innocent seems to conviniently escape your conscience.
randompal  7 | 306  
3 Oct 2007 /  #51
Congress voted it down not Bush, And who runs the Congress????

Democrats have been in control of congress for how many years? They have the majority since last year, not so? Their republican friends werent in such a hurry to waive visas for Poles before the demorats took over..domocrats, republicans, jeden chuj

You sound bitter.....what?.....did ypu overstay your Visa?

no sir, and I am back in Poland safe and sound
plk123  8 | 4119  
3 Oct 2007 /  #52
no sir,

ma'am.
Ranj  21 | 947  
3 Oct 2007 /  #53
Quoting: randompal
no sir,

ma'am.

Thank you.....glad someone can read. :)
Kaczor Duck  2 | 95  
3 Oct 2007 /  #54
no sir

Ranj is a She...
with cute puppies
krysia  23 | 3058  
3 Oct 2007 /  #55
14 GOOD REASONS TO DEPORT ILLEGAL ALIENS
(websites provided for verification)

Hope these 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read by the majority of Americans.

conservativeoutpost.com/fourteen_reasons_deport_illegal_aliens
witek7205  1 | 65  
8 Oct 2007 /  #56
conservativeoutpost.com/fourteen_reasons_deport_illegal_aliens

That is stupid.
witek7205  1 | 65  
9 Oct 2007 /  #58
because they also generate huge revenue and pay taxes which is not mention there.
urszula  1 | 253  
10 Oct 2007 /  #59
Many illegal aliens don't pay taxes because they are in the US illegally and don't file for them or else they will get caught and deported.

Some of them even work on someone else's social security number.
plk123  8 | 4119  
10 Oct 2007 /  #60
because they also generate huge revenue and pay taxes which is not mention there.

but not all the taxes and they are a drain on OUR social services besides they do ship a big chunk of the dough out of here.

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