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Is violence in the UK vs Poland natural?


jareck8  
19 Oct 2007 /  #1
a friend who has been brought up in england had recently asked me about domestic violence and in general as he had witnessed a couple fighting who he believed were from poland, i explained like everywhere that this can happen, but actually when i was thinking about it i noticed that when i was growing up in lublin we had difficult times and there was a fair amount of violence ( i mean slaps) in my house, brothers and sisters,,a unties and uncles... it seems different in england?
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
19 Oct 2007 /  #2
when in poland i have heard it mentioned but have never actually witnessed it
OP jareck8  
19 Oct 2007 /  #3
we need to rid our selves of verbal and physical abuse
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
19 Oct 2007 /  #4
it seems different in england?

not at all - more women in the UK die from domestic violence than breast cancer - but that's not saying its all British people we have a very mixed nation, we also have a growing number of children being taken in to care due to violence and abuse but again i will make it clear that we have a large number of none nationals living and working in the UK so it's hard to say what proportion are actually British (English / Welsh & Scots) but as a country the stats are not too good.
OP jareck8  
19 Oct 2007 /  #5
i am not so familiar with the uk but thank you for your information, its a sad situation, people need to respect each other, violence is not a choice people have, there should not be any reason to enter this area, unless its an extreme circumstance.
sapphire 22 | 1,241  
19 Oct 2007 /  #6
unless its an extreme circumstance

there are no extreme circumstances that warrant this are there.. unless it is self defence
Kilkline 1 | 689  
19 Oct 2007 /  #7
Maybe it happens in England less as there is perhaps less of a culture of keeping things 'in the family'. I think English male relatives would be more likely to 'have a word' *ahem* with the offender.
Michal - | 1,865  
19 Oct 2007 /  #8
It is probably caused by economic frustration. When the iron Curtain was still and working, the future for the Poles was limited to having kids! Who wants a family when you earn £100 per month? Also, of course, the Poles have a loving for the 'strong stuff' and it gives them that all important 'Dutch courage'. Sober, the Poles are mediocre but with a little booz, they love to rise to the challenge.
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
19 Oct 2007 /  #9
Violence is completely unnatural.

All the wars, misery and death that resulted from religious fighting, colonization, nationalist policies, crusades, theft, jealousy etc, were purely accidental.
plk123 8 | 4,150  
19 Oct 2007 /  #10
actually violence is very natural.. we'd all starve without it.. however, beating up one's wife and kids is NOT.
OP jareck8  
19 Oct 2007 /  #11
Violence is completely unnatural.

All the wars, misery and death that resulted from religious fighting, colonization, nationalist policies, crusades, theft, jealousy etc, were purely accidental.

i think there was an elemant of choice - someone chose to hit, kill etc

i think wars are more to do with power, jealousy and greed
plk123 8 | 4,150  
19 Oct 2007 /  #12
i think wars are more to do with power, jealousy and greed

yes but they are natural
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
19 Oct 2007 /  #13
I'm surprised my previous post was taken seriously :D
OP jareck8  
19 Oct 2007 /  #14
it shows there are many opinions in the world?
truebrit 3 | 196  
23 Oct 2007 /  #15
not at all - more women in the UK die from domestic violence than breast cancer

This figure is completely inaccurate.For the past few years around 120 women and 30 men have been killed by their partners each year in the UK.Unfortunately,deaths from breast cancer are in the thousands.
Yogibear - | 40  
25 Oct 2007 /  #16
actually violence is very natural.. we'd all starve without it..

What a strange thing to say.
OP jareck8  
25 Oct 2007 /  #17
the world will be without strangers... probably not
postie 7 | 112  
25 Oct 2007 /  #18
Agreed there. On the breast cancer awareness website, it says this:

# In 2004, there were 44,659 new cases of breast cancer diagnosed in the UK: 44,335 (99%) in women and 324 (1%) in men.
# Breast cancer causes more than 12,500 deaths each year in the UK

On the Women's Aid, website, they say this:
Did you know that domestic violence kills over two women per week? More key statistics are available in each section of the FAQs.

It might have been a confusion over the amounts of Domestic Violence incidents reported each year... not actual deaths. (2 a week is still 2 too many!!! )

As someone else said above, the UK is a multi-cultural society, and as such, the figures might be distorted a bit, in that it only deals with crimes committed here, not who they're caused by. For instance, if someone kills their wife, then it's treated as a murder. But that murder might be part of an "honour killing" which is seen as "acceptable" by certain people in certain immigrant communities... and yes, being very careful not to say ALL...

Saying that, yes, undoubtedly there is domestic violence committed here by British on British too. I don't think now though, that women are as likely to tolerate it as they did in the past. Just my view though.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
25 Oct 2007 /  #19
Yes my mistake I misquoted a programme I had watched - I then went on line and your figures are spot on

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