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English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland


Seanus 15 | 19,706  
20 Nov 2009 /  #31
Maybe, Shelley, but we tend to travel better. We tend to mix well with foreigners which is more than can be said for some English folk. Just compare the Tartan Army and English fans abroad.
jonni 16 | 2,485  
20 Nov 2009 /  #32
Just compare the Tartan Army and English fans abroad.

I'm not fond of either bunch but I remember the Scotland fans in Poznań a few years ago. Just plain macabre.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
20 Nov 2009 /  #33
They probably found their stingy brothers there :) The Tartan Army likes to dance and mingle with others.
jonni 16 | 2,485  
20 Nov 2009 /  #34
Mingling indeed they were! The kilt lifting certainly created an impression. And proved to the old biddies of Poznań that military-style is alive and well.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
20 Nov 2009 /  #35
They weren't doing that again, were they? ;)
jonni 16 | 2,485  
20 Nov 2009 /  #36
Would have been fine if they were better looking ;-)
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
20 Nov 2009 /  #37
Hmm...I do hope you are talking about the lassies (ladies) ;) ;)
jonni 16 | 2,485  
20 Nov 2009 /  #38
I don't remember if there were non-males :-))
OP szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
20 Nov 2009 /  #39
The English psyche abroad is different to that of the other "home" nations. This is evidenced by travelling football fans etc.
Yes, there are idiots in all countries but English culture seems to encourage this type of person.
Unfortunately, some foreigners cannot distinguish between English and British and all are tarrred by the same brush.

Scotland fans in Poznań a few years ago. Just plain macabre.

You should have been at Hampden when Shuggie dropped a ten bob bit - the riot police had to be called out.

we have the same problems with other nationalities here in the U

Shelly - your country is being run by non elected foreigners, economic migrants - but its OK, we dont want them back.
time means 5 | 1,309  
20 Nov 2009 /  #40
Tartan Army and English fans abroad.

Like those well behaved jocks at wembley or those other well behaved jocks in Manchester and haven't the same ones just fined after a trip to Romania.

Like i said seanus i expect such **** from skotja (still smarting after the last by election lmao) with his dislike of things English but i didn't think you were the same.
derek trotter 10 | 203  
20 Nov 2009 /  #41
English tossers need to learn to get a grip and learn to handle their drink. Kraków is a pretty cultured place and they need to get with the vibe of the place

do you know what kind of vibe they need? I am pretty sure that Ian and Pete from Ulverston and Barrow-in-Furness in Cumbria are more interested in swallowing hectoliters of cheap beer on cheap holidays to Krakow, I am not even sure they understand what the 'culture' word means.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
20 Nov 2009 /  #42
lol, lets blame the English shall we :):) everybody jumps on the train to have a go as long as its not Poland, ay??? :)

There are some fools from England that travel to Poland, i can tell you its the same when roles are reversed, pick on who ever you like but lets be honest every nation has its 'fools' or 'tossers'
time means 5 | 1,309  
20 Nov 2009 /  #43
Poland, ay??? :)

Or Scotland. Perhaps a new thread Scottish ******* are something?

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1114567/Scars-girl-beaten-English-Scotland.html

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/5101184.stm

dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1116085/JOHN-MACLEOD-The-ugly-truth-Scots-shameful-anti-English-bigotry.html
OP szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
20 Nov 2009 /  #44
time means

Congrats - Two quotes from the Daily Mail and a 3 year old ref to the BBC.....and your point is ?

If you are trying to turn this into a Scots vs English thread then good luck to you but count me out.

My point is that English seem particularly predisposed to behaving in this manner as opposed to other nations.

Scottish *******

What ??? Nobody in England masturbates ???
BritishEmpire - | 148  
21 Nov 2009 /  #45
It's sad to see all the yobbos coming across.

Revenge is sweet

The English tend to be worse though, more nationalistic but I don't like to generalise too much. It's just based on observation.

So its ok for you to be a bigot but no one else?.

Brits aren't seen that well by many Poles generally. Richer? Yes Smarter? No

Richer = yes, smarter = well we are richer aren't we se anus.

Oh yeah because Poles are a credit to their country when they're in England, be thankful those Brits were just being brutal with pigeons!

Nice one shelley :D

If you haven't noticed yet, this thread is generally about normal people doing bad things while being intoxicated, not about psychopaths.

So wheres the proof they are psycho's?. It says nothing about them other than that they are polish (surprise surprise) and that they were drunk. I must say i liked the judges comments "He added that the continued presence of both defendants in this country was "undesirable." I wonder if he said that before or after the trial started.

The way you put it, any person can retaliate with the same "oh yeah and your guys did this" childish drivel.

And you lot don't?

Shelly - your country is being run by non elected foreigners, economic migrants - but its OK, we dont want them back.

At last someone dares to speak the truth!, well sort of, over-run would have been a bit closer to the truth. You be careful though they might ostracise you for comments like that.
AFC_1903 - | 7  
21 Nov 2009 /  #46
time means
...or those other well behaved jocks in Manchester and haven't the same ones just fined after a trip to Romania.

Please do not use Rangers and their fans as an example of all Scots. Rangers don't even want to be in the Scottish league system (much like the way other teams fans don't want them to be in it) and want a move to the English Leagues.

A huge section of their support class themselves as 'British' rather than Scottish, and with their bigotry and lack of common decency are hated by non Rangers-supporting Scots, and by many other Rangers fans [the decent ones], as all they do is give Scotland a bad name. The club may claim to be working against it, but there is virtually no evidence of this as the bigotry is part of the reason that so many shirts are sold and people travel from NI for the games. Remember, they released orange shirts under the pretence of it being a "Tribute to their Dutch anager". Laughable, if it weren't so disgusting. Football/Religion, it doesn't matter with the Old Firm, it's just ways to hate people from a different area/background.

Try finding a Scottish Soltaire or Lion Rampant flag amongst their support and you'll see what I mean, it's all Union Jacks - which other teams would never fly. The other, non OF, teams may not get the same opportunities to travel Europe, but you will find none of the [destructive] Rangers mentality with those who do.
OP szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
21 Nov 2009 /  #47
It says nothing about them other than that they are polish

They were English - keep up there at the back !

over-run would have been a bit closer to the truth

I was referring to your Prime Minister, Chancellor of your Exchequer etc....all Scottish.

As for Rangers....my mate won the lottery and was thinking of buying Glasgow Rangers...........just imagine what he would have done if he got four numbers !!!
time means 5 | 1,309  
21 Nov 2009 /  #48
Please do not use Rangers and their fans as an example of all Scots

Actually Rangers is one of the first results i look for. I just used the couple of incidents mentioned to **** on seanus bonfire. At least they fly the union flag and not the the tri colour.

.....and your point is ?

That these actually happened in the immigrant friendly Scotland that you are always banging on about my bigoted friend.

turn this into a Scots vs English thread

Nicely worded thread title.

My point is that English seem particularly predisposed to behaving in this manner

Two guys actually.
OP szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
21 Nov 2009 /  #49
There are racial attacks on English in Scotland, thats true. There are also racial attacks on other ethnic minorities too. I am not denying that.

Again, my point is that the English culture encourages this type of behaviour more so than other national cultures.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,872  
21 Nov 2009 /  #50
Again, my point is that the English culture encourages this type of behaviour more so than other national cultures

szkotja youre getting boring.......why not start a new thread?
"Scottish are far superior to English... but we're not racist"
or something like that...
then give us all a good rendition of a lovely cuddly Scottish ditty like..."The sash my father wore"...LOL
time means 5 | 1,309  
21 Nov 2009 /  #51
English culture encourages this type of behaviour more so than other national cultures.

Animal cruelty.

Yeah, bull fightings huge in England.
OP szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
21 Nov 2009 /  #52
Animal cruelty.

People from other cultures may see it as more than that.
time means 5 | 1,309  
21 Nov 2009 /  #53
They were fined for animal cruelty and nothing else.
OP szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
21 Nov 2009 /  #54
I suppose that in the English culture thats all it may be seen as.

Different nationalities have different national traits, some positive, some negative.

As an example - a negative aspect of Scots or Irish culture is the role that alcohol plays within it.

I'm simply saying that a negative aspect of the English culture is that it encourages this type of behaviour abroad.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
21 Nov 2009 /  #55
Just compare the Tartan Army and English fans abroad.

Oh yeah the Scots behaved lovely when they were in Manchester...a pargon of all that is good about the Tartan army...Give me a break! Justice is being done though and some of your fellow scots will be residing in Strangeways soon :D

I'll a few things what they did when they were in Manchester:

The ripped open our cleaners blouse as she was walking in the street with bags in her hands.

They called on of my work colleagues and English b*tch.

They were pi$$ing in the street.

They brought small children with them whilst they were getting to drunk to even stand up.

The women were foul mouthed disgusting football shirt wearing hags.

The men were foul disgusting animals.

They trashed my city, it looked like there had been war there was that much broken glass on Market Street...

All in all, they showed us English that we're not that bad after all.
time means 5 | 1,309  
21 Nov 2009 /  #56
I suppose that in the English culture thats all it may be seen as.

How do you mean, actually looking at the facts of the case and not reading anything else in to it?

English culture is that it encourages this type of behaviour abroad.

Two guys. I have not heard of any other pigeon tossing in Krakow or other places.
Cardno85 31 | 976  
21 Nov 2009 /  #57
Scots behaved lovely when they were in Manchester

Don't tar us all with the old firm brush. A bunch of bigots travelling down South are far removed from normal Scottish fans, those were old firm fans you had rioting in Manchester. Branded Scotland's Shame by most of the papers and public up here. But the country are proud to have been voted best behaved fans in the world on numerous occaisions (it's the only thing we ever do win!).

On another note, I am still not sure what these yobs actually did? I get that they were tossing pigeons, but can pigeons not fly? I am confused as to how they hurt the pigeons. Can someone shed some light on this for me?
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
21 Nov 2009 /  #58
Those fans were Unionists with close ties to Chelsea's hooligans. There was a story ran on that with them drinking together. They are Scottish by birth only in my eyes.

Time means, I'm not like that. I agreed with a certain forum member to spice it up and I guess he'll be doing the same elsewhere. I don't mean the sort of flames that get the Mods banning people, I just mean provoking discussion. I do the same in class when my students are listless and inactive.

The truthful position is that some are bad in some country and some aren't. I have English friends and, like PF member mephias said, I tend to judge by person and not nationality.

Any 'observations' I have made, I can always back them up. I'm not a troller and can say that I like the vast majority of English PF members here.

Maybe I should have used more wink marks ;) ;)
OP szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
21 Nov 2009 /  #59
a pargon

I think the word you are looking for is paradox.

The Old Firm and their bigotry are the shame of Scotland. Generally their fans do not go to Scotland games as they would prefer to support England or Ireland.

How do you mean,

I mean that this type of boorish behaviour abroad is more prevalent in the English culture and .......wait a minute.......am I repeating myself ?

an someone shed some light on this for me?

Scant details but its widely reported as two Brits tossing pigeons in Krakows main square. The stunned pigeons were thrown at force and could not open their wings. Their wings were either broken or the pigeons died.
time means 5 | 1,309  
21 Nov 2009 /  #60
I am confused as to how they hurt the pigeons. Can someone shed some light on this for me?

Me too, if you throw something that flys surely that's what it does.

Pigeons can open their wings in an instant.

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