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Modern Plantation for Poles in Ireland


Del boy 20 | 254  
21 Jun 2009 /  #91
I am not sure about Republic of Ireland but here you have some numbers about imigration to Northern Ireland

independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/belfast-mob-threatened-to-kill-romanian-children-1707891.html
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
21 Jun 2009 /  #92
Torq

As Americans think being Irish is trendy. Saint Patricks day and all that. The most recent American census was done near the end of March. A week or so after Saint Patricks day.

American are walking maths equations. They claim to be 1/8 Irish, 1/16 French and all other sorts of nonsense.

It will be a sad day for Ireland when our population resorts to the same.
time means 5 | 1,310  
21 Jun 2009 /  #93
Fair point 32 are you from the six?

What are the other 3?
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
21 Jun 2009 /  #94
time means

Donegal, Monaghan, and Cavan.
Ireland32 2 | 172  
21 Jun 2009 /  #95
Call it what you like but at the end of the day it's a seperate country and that makes 32 an immigrant.

I was born In Donegal and lived there for the first 18 months of my childhood. My parrents moved to Tyrone after their third child was born. Unless I have absolutely no understanding of geography on this little island......I was born in Ulster which is part of 'Ireland' and not the occupied 6 counties you refer to.
time means 5 | 1,310  
21 Jun 2009 /  #96
Thanks revo.

So you were born in Ulster but not NI 32. Got it.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
21 Jun 2009 /  #97
time means

If somebody is born in Belfast and decides to move to Cork that does not make them an immigrant. To say so is absurd.

Pawel from Krakow moving to Dublin. Immigrant.
Paddy from Belfast moving to Dublin. Irish man moving cities.

Capisce?
irishdeano 5 | 304  
21 Jun 2009 /  #98
are alot of patriots in Ireland......armchair patriots

The biggest the ones in government
time means 5 | 1,310  
21 Jun 2009 /  #99
Are paddy from Belfast £s legal tender in Ireland?
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
21 Jun 2009 /  #100
time means

No, we use euro here. As well you know.
Ireland32 2 | 172  
21 Jun 2009 /  #101
The biggest the ones in government

Care to explain?
irishdeano 5 | 304  
21 Jun 2009 /  #102
all the parties have plenty getting there pay packs
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
21 Jun 2009 /  #103
irishdeano

In English? Irish?
Ireland32 2 | 172  
21 Jun 2009 /  #104
all the parties have plenty getting there pay packs

And what of the armchair patriots in government that you so kindly quoted me on? I wish to know more. Please enlighten me?
irishdeano 5 | 304  
21 Jun 2009 /  #105
Well maybe you need to go on to bbc and check the expenses of the mps in northern ireland.
Ireland32 2 | 172  
21 Jun 2009 /  #106
Oh so they must all be armchair patriots as you have tared them all with the one brush. Is that what you mean or have you gone off the topic?
irishdeano 5 | 304  
21 Jun 2009 /  #107
Milking our economy dry and sending the money home. At least the Irish who immigrate to foreign shores spend within theat county and most of them stlle for life. Look at America, Austrailia etc.

The poles have done nothing to support the economy here in Ireland....and they want their language to be recognised as third language !! Never

Really think about what you write about? your the same guys who promote shoppers from the south to shop in northern ireland, And you have the cheek to talk about poles and the irish economy. when you telling people to go and spend it in the british economy, oh and i see the Never? that was your best buddy said that,

You talk about freedom and then you talk about poles coming to ireland
Ireland32 2 | 172  
21 Jun 2009 /  #108
What the feck are you waffling about you cliff ? And who's my best buddy you numb nut?
irishdeano 5 | 304  
21 Jun 2009 /  #109
You didnt reply to my comment about the shopping

your bud big Ian Never
ZIMMY 6 | 1,601  
21 Jun 2009 /  #110
Irish immigrants to the U.S.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_American

"A total of 36,495,800 Americans (more than 12% of total population) reported Irish ancestry in the 2006 American Community Survey.......Between 1820 and 1860, the Irish constituted over one third of all immigrants to the United States, and two-thirds of these Irish immigrants were Catholic. This trend reached its peak in 1840, when nearly half of all immigrants to the United States originated from Ireland.""There are approximately five million reporting Scots-Irish ancestry, who are counted separately from those counted as Irish in the U.S."

"More than 7 million Irish immigrants have come to America since the 1600s."

answers.com/topic/irish-american
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Polish immigrants to the U.S.
"There are an estimated 10 million such Polish Americans, representing about 3% of the population of the United States......"

Out of my inherent Polish fairness I gave the Irish more space here. :) If my math is correct, 7 million is more than 5 million.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
21 Jun 2009 /  #111
irishdeano

Irish shoppers going up North costs the Souths exchequer 70 million euro so far this year.

Eastern europeans will send 1.5 billion euros home again this year.

Which is a bigger problem?
Ireland32 2 | 172  
21 Jun 2009 /  #112
You didnt reply to my comment about the shopping

your bud big Ian Never

I did not reply to your ludicrous comments on this thread as you do not seem to have grasped by previous comments.

1. I support the spending of money in the country I live in - Ireland (26 counties). My reason is to allow the economy to grow and for the spending to generate jobs in this country.

2. I am a member of Sinn Fein (none of which are armchair patriots).

3. Why would Ian Paisley be my buddy?
ZIMMY 6 | 1,601  
21 Jun 2009 /  #113
"20% of dole claimants are foreign nationals. Thats 204 per person per week ,many of the poles.minimum."
What percentage are Poles?

"Massive welfare fraud committed by foreign nationals."
What percentage are Poles?

"25% of jailed criminals are foreign nationals."
What percentage are Poles?

Etc...........
irishdeano 5 | 304  
21 Jun 2009 /  #114
I support the spending of money in the country I live in - Ireland (26 counties). My reason is to allow the economy to grow and for the spending to generate jobs in this country.

Well martin from your party seems to think other wise so now your saying ireland has 26 counties?
Ireland32 2 | 172  
21 Jun 2009 /  #115
Well martin from your party seems to think other wise

And I guess you think if he told me to stick my finger in my eye I would do it?

Someone get this lunatic out of here before he chokes on his own verbal diarrhoea
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
21 Jun 2009 /  #116
The simple truth is, the EU isn't predicated on a pick&choose basis. True, there are opt-outs and protocols which can change things but the truth remains that Poles are entitled to travel to Ireland under the free movement of people provisions and are also not blocked from sending money back home.

The Irish had too much of the good life and didn't moan then. The Poles were a constant, they have been working and sending money home for quite some time now. When the downturn started, so did the moaning. How can the Poles be blamed for this when they are a constant?

States foresaw all this a long time ago, the complications that the EU would throw up. However, they entered into it, for better or for worse, and tried to make a good fist of it. It's similar to getting married in that regard. Very often, comity and cooperation are to be preferred over profit and advanced selectivism.
OP RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
21 Jun 2009 /  #117
50,000(204 euro a week plus other assorted benefits) Poles on the dole here. 3,000 Polish families claiming rent allowance.

The Poles, as an ethnic group, are a burden on the Irish state.

It does not break down prisoners by nationality. Knife crime is rife among the Polish community, every couple of weeks Poles murder Poles after a house party at the weekend.

Poles are our biggest ethnic group on welfare, again it does not break down fraud by nationality. Lets just say that a lot of the Poles emigrating here are not your average decent Pole you may find in Poland.
ZIMMY 6 | 1,601  
21 Jun 2009 /  #118
"Eastern europea"

It's either East European or Eastern Europe. Eastern European is technically incorrect grammar although widely used.
irishdeano 5 | 304  
21 Jun 2009 /  #119
And I guess you think if he told me to stick my finger in my eye I would do it?

Well hes the main man after Gerry

Your the one whos on a polishforum to bad mouth poles... when it goes against everything your party stands for
and your talking about me
Ireland32 2 | 172  
21 Jun 2009 /  #120
Oh is he gosh....oh I better stick my finger in my eye so !!

For the record I am on here stating my opinions and views. I employ quite alot of polish workers at my factory, most of whom I have high regard for as I have said on other threads. I have no issue with any culture or nationality residing in this country, working and contributing to society and the economy. My point was that why stay when the work dry's up? If they are here to provide for families back home and mortgages then what is the benefit of staying when their income ceases?

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