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Great Britain - which countries does it include?


ola123  
7 Sep 2006 /  #1
OK I have a question, its not connected wit Poland really but since this forum has so many visitors from Isles, they can explain me this:

What is Great Britain? Does GB include: England, Scotland, Wales, NI? How about Ireland? Can I call english, scottish etc british or only english are british? When I think about Isles should I say that bigger Island is GB and smaller one Ireland? I never really understood this.
okll  
7 Sep 2006 /  #2
Me thinks Great Britain includes England, Schotland, Wales, NI, and Ireland..
bolo 2 | 304  
7 Sep 2006 /  #3
Here you go: [know-britain.com/general/great_britain.html] About Great Britain, England, etc.

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Hi Krysia :)
krysia 23 | 3,057  
7 Sep 2006 /  #4
I missed you bolo:)
bolo 2 | 304  
7 Sep 2006 /  #5
I'm sort of busy (cannot slack at work as much as I used to) but should be better soon.
Shelley  
7 Sep 2006 /  #6
It doesn't include Ireland - they're a separate country they have Irish Passports, only Northern Ireland belongs to England, - We also have the British Isles, which encompass a few little Islands off the coast of England

We are the following

Great Brittan
United Kingdom
England

The Scottish have their own Parliament and the Welsh burn cottages and have their own language

Many of our old colonies have British passports and it would seem a British Passport is vastly becoming an object of every tom dick and harry's desire
krysia 23 | 3,057  
7 Sep 2006 /  #7
OK bolo. But before you go....



OP ola123  
7 Sep 2006 /  #8
Northern Ireland belongs to England

So why is NI called NI then? This part of land should be called England.
Shelley  
7 Sep 2006 /  #9
It's Northern Ireland - the same as Scotland is called Scotland and Wales called Wales - they are part of Great Britain but they're separte, in Scotland they have different money, it's printed by the Bank of Scotland - the currency rate is the same but the bank notes are different.

The history of how Ireland became part of England is actually very interesting, have a read.

Although England conquered Ireland (North and South) in the late 1400's and early 1500's, opposition to the English continued. Eventually in 1800 an Act of Union brought the whole of Ireland officially into the Union. This was technically a negotiated Union, but in reality only about 10% of the Irish people could vote.

After World War I (1914-1918) civil unrest (specifically the Easter Uprising) resulted in the Irish Treaty of 1921 and thus created the current division of Ireland. The south half of Ireland became the Republic of Ireland and the northern six counties stayed with the UK and became known as Northern Ireland.

From 1922 for 50 years, Northern Ireland governed itself. However, in 1968 civil unrest between Catholics and Protestants started and in 1972 Westminster intervened, took over government, and deployed British troops.

In 1998 a general referendum was held in both halves of Ireland with a majority vote for a Northern Ireland Assembly. However at the time of writing this Assembly has been suspended.
OP ola123  
7 Sep 2006 /  #10
Here you go: About Great Britain, England, etc.

Allright so:

GB = England + Scotland + Wales
UK = GB + NI
British Islands = UK + the Channel Islands + the Isle of Man (whatever :( )

Correct me if Im wrong.
Shelley  
7 Sep 2006 /  #11
To add to the confussion, there is also the Scotish Isles and cluster of beautiful islands off the coast of Scotland

ola123 - you're pretty much there
OP ola123  
7 Sep 2006 /  #12
All is clear now :) cheers!
Decorator 4 | 291  
7 Sep 2006 /  #13
Many people like myself believe Northern Ireland sholuld be Irish and not under British rule. But this debate could go on for ever..
Shelley  
7 Sep 2006 /  #14
Decorator - People in Northern Ireland dont want to be part of the South - lose all the benefits they get from the UK!!!!! I like to know who these many people are!
OP ola123  
7 Sep 2006 /  #15
One more thing: scottish, welsh and english can all be called british. n irish are not british because NI isnt part of britain? so irish are irish and the rest is british? :(
Shelley  
7 Sep 2006 /  #16
People in Northern Ireland are British too because it's part of Great Britain
OP ola123  
7 Sep 2006 /  #17
According to bolo's link they are not part of GB, but they are part of UK.

"Great Britain is the largest island in Europe. "Great Britain" is the collective name for the three countries of England, Scotland and Wales."

"The United Kingdom is made up of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. "
Decorator 4 | 291  
7 Sep 2006 /  #18
Try the Catholics Shelly !! My mum was from the Falls Road why don't you ask a few people there..
myself  
7 Sep 2006 /  #19
No, it shouldn't be called England. As i understand;

England is only the part of the UK.

The UK consists of Great Britain and NI.

Great Britain is the biggest island, combination of England, Scotland and Wales.

Ireland is the the 2nd biggest island. And NI is the part of this island and which is also the part of the UK.

So the name of NI is just like the other names as England, Scotland and Wales, which are all part of the UK.

Edit:
oops sorry, my response was to the earlier post of ola123' question, but her question is already answered.
quando  
7 Sep 2006 /  #20
Q "People in Northern Ireland dont want to be part of the South - lose all the benefits they get from the UK!!!!! I like to know who these many people are!"

The Catholics in NI do not want to be part of Britian...........what a crock of s***!
Ireland is now the second richest country in the world and NO, England/Britian is not #1
Shelley  
7 Sep 2006 /  #21
ola123 - they have bitish passports

Decorator - yep and you ask your average irish person - do they want to pay to go see a doctor do they want the Euro - I think you'll find they'll say no thank you !

As for try the Catholics - thats an old one now...move on even the IRA have moved on, I think it's time you did.
OP ola123  
7 Sep 2006 /  #22
I pretty much think the same as poster myself. GB is only name of the "bigger" Island. Uk is the name of Union of 4 countries and N. Irish are not british but they are part of UK.
Decorator 4 | 291  
7 Sep 2006 /  #23
Not an old one at all girl. Did you say the same before Hong Kong was handed back.. Why should people forget their history? that's like saying forget about the war etc etc.
Shelley  
7 Sep 2006 /  #24
GB is only name of the "bigger" Island. Uk is the
name of Union of 4 countries and N. Irish are not british but they are part of UK.

They all have british passports!!! does not your passport tell you what nationality you are????? unless you have taken on another nationality!

I'm in no way saying people should forget their history - I dont recall intimating that???? Look - Ireland will never be united, not in my life-time anyway.......give it up and stop starting age old arguments that are best left alone!
Decorator 4 | 291  
7 Sep 2006 /  #25
For you anything Shell !!
Shelley  
7 Sep 2006 /  #26
Dont call me Shell, that is reserved for friends and family - not you
Decorator 4 | 291  
7 Sep 2006 /  #27
Thanks for letting me know SHELL...so it is reserved for nobody then...you northern oath
Shelley  
7 Sep 2006 /  #28
I hardly think I'm an oaf, my education was of a high standard hence the reason I'm not poxy painter....and as for the Northern thing, I'm quite proud of where I come from it's a damn site cleaner and prettier up here than it is down where you are!!!

No one???

Decorator = boring person who paints houses for a living and looks like an 80is throw back!
Decorator 4 | 291  
7 Sep 2006 /  #29
I'm not a Painter either shell my dear, I'm an Interior Decorator qualified in design too.. And listen to you.. trying to put down peoples careers. Many of the Polish men that work around me are those POXY PINTERS...your so shallow and transparent you thick twat.!! You need to go out and get laid, your frigidity is shocking Shell..

Put your picture in then Shell... or are you frightened you'll cause widespread online illness!
plg 17 | 263  
7 Sep 2006 /  #30
ok this is what i would call a lot of gobbledegook

the link is especially bolo

and who says n.ireland is part of england

mainland great britain>england,scotland and wales <<<this is the united kingdom

britain >>england, scotland, wales and n. ireland.

any questions

oh and krysia thanks for making me jealous




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