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What's So Great About The UK?


szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
9 Jan 2008 /  #181
NHS is funded by taxpayers. Majority of Polish immigrants age 20 - 35 ( IMHO ) pay tax and are healthy.
Biggest expense of NHS is on secondary health care ( care homes etc) that they won't access.
Thought for the day, maybe the young healthy Polish taxpayers are subsidising the NHS ?
isthatu  3 | 1164  
9 Jan 2008 /  #182
the nhs was in a crisis even before the polish wave as you say yourself, but still there are people on here who paint a picture that the nhs would work fine if there were no poles in the uk...

how stupid is that??

agreed,stupid to single out the Poles in this,but it is an accumilation,something I just dont think many Polish people understand,not having had continous imigration to Poland from all round the world these past 40-50 years.

maybe the young healthy Polish taxpayers are subsidising the NHS ?

hhhm,yes,funding it so "we" can fork out 3 or 4 grand a week on some ghanains dialasis.....
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
9 Jan 2008 /  #183
on some ghanains dialasis.....

And the Ghanains are here because.......sins of the father and all that.
Ranj  21 | 947  
9 Jan 2008 /  #184
What's So Great About The UK?

My sweety's home base is there!!!!
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
10 Jan 2008 /  #185
the nhs was in a crisis even before the polish wave as you say yourself, but still there are people on here who paint a picture that the nhs would work fine if there were no poles in the uk...

It was working on the problems and money was being spent, there had been radical shake ups - but, when the UK opened its did not expect the influx if migrant workers it got, thus putting more pressure on and causing more problems, also lets take in to consideration the amount of people that come here on visas and oversay and still expect treatment and in some case expensive treatment for cancers and HIV / AIDS, so you see our wonderful free service has become a little bit tired and frayed at the edges but its being worked on!

Good point. The NHS has been in downfall for at least a decade (probably more) cancelled operations and waiting times (for example) have been a problem for a long time and nothing to do with Polish people. It's an old story.

Can you elaborate on post? Or does slagging off something you know nothing about make you sound good?
Kilkline  1 | 682  
10 Jan 2008 /  #186
Kilkline wrote:
It seems most people are unable to accept the fact that Polish immigration can have both positive and negative consequences

- According to you, is it just 'Polish immigration' that has such consequences, or any immigration, e.g. the massive African and Asian one?

Any.

Kilkline wrote:
If you're a Pole you seem to think that there isnt a problem with the massive number of immigrants coming to Britain(unless of course they're brown).

- You mean all the Poles think so? Do you suggest we all are, ahem, racist? How about you? You have a problem with Polish 'immgration' to UK but not with 'brown' immigration to UK, don't you? Very unracist indeed. How skillful nowadays the racist has become in blaming others for racism.

See my previous response.

Kilkline wrote:
As an Englishman with a Polish wife I honestly have more sympathy for working class Brits in this matter. Some of them have gone from earning half what I earn, to a quarter

- According to you, the Poles are to be blamed for this?

They are certainly a large contributing factor. To deny this is to deny basic economic laws of supply and demand. More labour = lower wages. Where it comes from is not the issue.

Kilkline wrote:
and I live in a crap area, drive a £3k car and have no savings

- Of course, the Poles are to be blamed for all this as well?

I didnt say they were , nor even hinted. Feel free to weave your little embellishments though. Its the only thing about any of your posts that give them even a veneer of intelligence or thought.

Kilkline wrote:
Therefore I cant imagine what it must be like for them [i.e. those poor Brits - P.], in there own country being told by foreigners ... they should work harder or do a qualification or just move if they dont like it.

- Do you mean the Poles are those 'foreigners' who tell them so?

Nope, they are one of many on this forum.

The bigots in this forum, such as Kilkline, attack the Poles for their alleged taking away jobs from the British, but don't say a word about the thousand and one other nations working in UK, especially the numerous Africans and Asians - who, by the way, unlike the Poles, aren't Europeans, and so EU members....

Because this is a forum about Poland and a thread refering to Polish immigration to Britain. Therefore why would I start talking about "third world people" as you so enlighteningly call them.

Why don't you say it openly? :)

... The Poles are the most convenient and safest scapegoat, eh, racist cowards?

You seem to be getting a bit emotional Puzzler and seeing enemies everywhere. The whole point of my post was that most people on this forum cannot accept or see that Polish immigration has BOTH positive and negative consequences and that seeing the whole subject in purely polarised terms is wrong and a mistake. People pick sides and sit there 'with there fingers in their ears' not accepting anything that may contradict their own entrenched views.Your response to my post has unintentially supported my point as you are a prime example of what I was talking about.

Therefore you are trying to disagree with me on my points (which you have done your usual subjective and incorrect interpretation of) and have in fact illustrated the validity original point with your responses.

Cheers mate, you're nothing if not consistant.
noimmigration  
10 Jan 2008 /  #187
Thought for the day, maybe the young healthy Polish taxpayers are subsidising the NHS ?

me and my family have been paying tax our whole lives, how lng have you polish been paying tax.

The polish get most of their tax rebated back to them when they leave britain. they cntribute very little in tax
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
10 Jan 2008 /  #188
they cntribute very little in tax

a bit like students then
Bartolome  2 | 1083  
10 Jan 2008 /  #189
The polish get most of their tax rebated back to them when they leave britain. they cntribute very little in tax

You keep repeating that like a bloody mantra. And since when NI contributions are given back, FFS ?
kaken  
10 Jan 2008 /  #190
they cntribute very little in tax

why should they pay for british ******? duh
z_darius  14 | 3960  
10 Jan 2008 /  #191
me and my family have been paying tax our whole lives

In most countries people pay taxes only if they have income. I didn't realize in UK babies can be gainfully employed so they can pay taxes on their income.
scarbyirp  
10 Jan 2008 /  #192
Hey no immagination? Got bored with the same old meaningless bolix on the BNP/Rangers website again mate?
osiol  55 | 3921  
10 Jan 2008 /  #193
If you're only paying taxes for a short time, that balances only receiving (some of) the services they pay for for a short time.

The polish get most of their tax rebated back to them when they leave britain.

For the umpteenth time of asking, give me evidence.
noimmigration  
10 Jan 2008 /  #194
a bit like students then

I havent always been a student, and I work partime.
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
10 Jan 2008 /  #195
So my tax is subsidising your education - as I said before, I am sorely disappointed.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
10 Jan 2008 /  #196
No,whats worse is MY tax is subsidising no immi's FREE education in Scotland,while the rest of us suckers in the rest of the UK have to pay through the nose......
noimmigration  
10 Jan 2008 /  #197
No,whats worse is MY tax is subsidising no immi's FREE education in Scotland,while the rest of us suckers in the rest of the

the best thing is that if a student attends a university in scotland but he is born in england then he still has to pay top up fees. english suckers

So my tax is subsidising your education - as I said before, I am sorely disappointed.

I have paid far more tax than you polack, how long ya been in the uk ?
osiol  55 | 3921  
10 Jan 2008 /  #198
I have paid far more tax than you polack

Why do you think everyone here is Polish?
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
10 Jan 2008 /  #199
how long ya been in the uk ?

Longer than you have been in Glasgow.

Why do you think everyone here is Polish?

Because he is stoopid.
noimmigration  
10 Jan 2008 /  #200
I am 23 years of age and have been in glasgow my whle life, how long you been here
Shawn_H  
10 Jan 2008 /  #201
Because he is stoopid

Correctoin szkotja2007,
Becse he is stopid
osiol  55 | 3921  
10 Jan 2008 /  #202
how long you been here

My daddy's bigger than your daddy.

edit: Notice how he hasn't posed this as a question, but as a statement.
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
10 Jan 2008 /  #203
how long you been here

Long enough to know that people who are narrow minded usually haven't had to fend for themselves or ever needed to ask for anyones help. Just sponged of their parents and instead of being grateful for what they have got, use it to bully others less fortunate.

Sound familiar ?
osiol  55 | 3921  
10 Jan 2008 /  #204
Real ale, gnarled old hollow oak trees, windy country lanes and The Clash.

Sorry, just answering the original question.
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
10 Jan 2008 /  #205
I am 23 years of age and have been in glasgow my whle life

lol - just another little radge weegie kuntt who can get to fuk

ooh sorry... am i off topic...?
isthatu  3 | 1164  
10 Jan 2008 /  #206
Tosser,I was born in Simpson memorial 30 odd years ago....spiting distance from the royal mile....
Which is part of how Great the UK is :)
PolskaDoll  27 | 1591  
10 Jan 2008 /  #207
Tosser,I was born in Simpson memorial....spiting distance from the royal mile....

So was I, but it's not there now :( it's moved out of town to Little France
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
10 Jan 2008 /  #208
Simpson memorial

Now a Best Western....
bestwesternedinburghcity.co.uk
osiol  55 | 3921  
10 Jan 2008 /  #209
I'm feeling a bit left out here with my lack of Scottishness, so instead I shall mention the fantastic views of London you get from Waterloo Bridge, both up and down the river.

I can't help but mention the amazing people from around the world you get to meet here too.
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
10 Jan 2008 /  #210
I was born in Simpson memorial

So was I,

so you can both count your blessings were born in one of englands most beautiful cities and dont come from the same place as the weegie

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