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Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches....


Shawn_H  
7 Feb 2009 /  #91
Maybe it is an inability to think

Wrapping ones head around the way the global economy works to take good paying jobs from comfortable people, the greed of bankers and shareholders, the lack of US savings rates (or inversely, their consumption rate), real estate collapses and credit flows and interbank lending is a difficult thing to grasp, even for our best and brightest (our politicians :) ), seeing someone different from you and a forming a negative opinion is the basest of reactions a person can have. People go with their gut, rightly or wrongly.

So what does that tell you?.

Money makes the world go 'round?
szarlotka  8 | 2205  
7 Feb 2009 /  #92
It tells me that the British people have a government whose policy on admitting immigrants both from the A8 accession countries and from outside of the EU was never in a manifesto of any sort and therefore was never made clear to them. The backlash that everyone is talking here is not against the foreign workers themselves but against a government that allowed wholesale immigration without considering the impacts upon our already creaking social services or what would happen when the recession hit (and don't tell me that the recession is a surprise to any politician or banker).

When someone has lost a job through no fault of their own, has a famly and a mortgage and sees jobs going to migrant workers then of course they are going to be aggrieved. This is not a reaction from lazy people who do not want to work, that category of Brit gets no sympathy from me. These guys do.

BTW the decision on the awarding of the contract to the Italian firm was taken by Total following a competitive tender so Misty's explanantion is a little off beam.
Misty  5 | 144  
7 Feb 2009 /  #93
Misty's explanantion is a little off beam.

Yes I missed out a bit of it. I was just pointing out that the government was to blame not any immigrant group. ;)

I just read an article about a deal to end these strikes but it was written 3 days ago. It's interesting to read this :

Unless those companies advertise a vacancy it will be hard for a UK national to bring a claim for race discrimination against them.

The companies and the government have it all nicely tied up, it seems.
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
7 Feb 2009 /  #94
lets not forget that britain has had open doors to immigrants for decades.

what is it about this A8 influx that appears to have so upset people, and is it specifically immigrants from eastern europe, is it that the country has reached saturation, is it the economic downturn, a combination of these or something entirely different?

as if i care

when things dont go well at home, bugger off somewhere else, preferably a place where youre welcome
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
7 Feb 2009 /  #95
Return of Yosser ?


  • Gizza Job
szarlotka  8 | 2205  
7 Feb 2009 /  #96
lets not forget that britain has had open doors to immigrants for decades.

Quite. Some other countries would do well to remember what Britain has done for genuine assylum seekers since WWII. To be honest I have had just about enough of some of the Brit Bashing from some on here lately. Let me see, Germany announces that it has delayed allowing Polish workers full free movement of labour until 2011 (the last possible moment when all EU countries have to comply) citing the recession for the further delay. Reaction on here? Bugger all. A few workers voice some genuine concerns? Reaction - we're all racist, ill educated trash. Do me a favour...

We are the Millwall FC of the world - "Noone like us but we don't care"
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
7 Feb 2009 /  #97
Yosser

haha... thought you were talking about yosser areyoufat, or whatever his name was

Some other countries would do well to remember what Britain has done for genuine assylum seekers since WWII

youre right of course PP. this is why i really cant find the paitence for people who constantly slight the uk for their suposed prejudices.

yeah, of course there are racists in the uk, always have bee always will be, but as a country we have welcomed countless immigrants for decades, and decades, and decades.

we're a small country, its hardly suprising that this recent influx - the largest so far - has ruffled feathers. it would be nice to see a little appreciation of the opportunities we give, every once and a while

Reaction - we're all racist, ill educated trash. Do me a favour...

as ive said countless times on here, this constant bashing is going to p!ss people off even more, obviously. if you take a dump in your bed, dont be suprised if you wake up smelling of poo - some on this forum would do well to learn this lesson
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
7 Feb 2009 /  #98
A few workers voice some genuine concerns? Reaction - we're all racist, ill educated trash.

That is one way of reading it.
I think everyone feels it is unfair for these men and women to be put out of work.
The comments on this thread are a reaction to a load minority, who I think use this situation to spew hatred.
You are right of course, we should not get ahead of ourselves and tarnish the millions of people who get on with it and have genuine problems due to immigration.
Misty  5 | 144  
7 Feb 2009 /  #99
but as a country we have welcomed countless immigrants for decades, and decades, and decades.

Exactly but that is not the problem. The problem is companies importing entire work forces rather than advertising jobs. It means that anyone living in the UK (of any nationality) are not getting the chance at those jobs.

The reason I pointed out that race discrimination quote from the article was to highlight how idiotic it was. I don't think racism is involved in this situation (at least it shouldn't be).
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
7 Feb 2009 /  #100
thats one part of the problem, yes
sledz  23 | 2247  
7 Feb 2009 /  #101
Break loose from the EU, England was doing fine on her own for centuries, now you take orders from Brussells..lol

Really this is like the same problem we have with illegal Mexicans, if you dont want your country overridden and your cities destroyed put in place a yearly quota of immigrants allowed into your country like we do.

We have laws for immigration and you really dont being part of the EU
Bartolome  2 | 1083  
7 Feb 2009 /  #102
Break loose from the EU, England was doing fine on her own for centuries, now you take orders from Brussells..lol

The problem is that they lost their colonies.
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
7 Feb 2009 /  #103
police had to stop hundreds of angry Brits from driving to Immingham to protest at that power station.

that's the part i don't like. Who or what is the police of a country to decide when people can protest and where?
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
7 Feb 2009 /  #104
now you take orders from Brussells..lol

no we dont... what are you... gay? :P

good to see you post - hope all good :)
Seanus  15 | 19666  
7 Feb 2009 /  #105
I'm afraid we do take order from Brussels. The very fact of the direct application of Regulations and the supremacy of EU Law takes care of that.

Still, it is interesting to see how subsidiarity works and the interaction of the different levels.
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
7 Feb 2009 /  #106
I'm afraid we do take order from Brussels.

not to the extent you might think S

but if you think to that extent, when it happens you wont be suprised

which is not a good thing
Seanus  15 | 19666  
7 Feb 2009 /  #107
True enough, BW. I'm not close to the guys who make the decisions. It's fine having read the theory but practice will always be way different.

Why do you think that we have more latitude/discretion than most would suppose, BW?
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
7 Feb 2009 /  #108
Why do you think that we have more latitude/discretion than most would suppose, B

ive got to ask what exactly you mean by latitude and discretion S
Seanus  15 | 19666  
7 Feb 2009 /  #109
Leeway, BW, leeway
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
7 Feb 2009 /  #110
im not entirely convinced by the

most would suppose

Seanus  15 | 19666  
7 Feb 2009 /  #111
That's my point, why not? The EU attempted to cast its net far and wide. All kinds of trivial Regulations, Directives and Decisions came out, covering a multitude of areas. When they are passed, that's it. Decisions are not binding to the extent of the others but we are expected to carry them out according to the spirit of the drafters.

Do you have insider knowledge that most don't?
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
7 Feb 2009 /  #112
Do you have insider knowledge that most don't?

well, obviously i play a significant role in the greater scheme of things, as my posts on this forum attest, but i dont agree that the picture is as dark as you seem to paint.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
7 Feb 2009 /  #113
How about those marches? Were you one of those marchers, BW?
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
13 Feb 2009 /  #114
The strange thing is i remember ShellyS saying somewhere that she also has a mixture of french english Jew and god knows what other blood. So she herself is a foreigner in my eyes. Funny how its usually the mogrels themselves who cant accept others just like themselves......

Jew isn't a nationality - it's a religion

The god knows whatever else is Irish - a few generations back - Im a fraction of Irish and a fraction of French and the majority of my family names have Anglo Saxon roots - Oh and Im a Roman catholic so we can rule out me being a Jewess - Most people in the UK do have a certain amount of other European blood, you do remember to the Normans don't you? Before that the Saxons and before that the Romans? Europeans I don't have a problem with.

SS wont reply today as its Saturday and she will not be at work. She is probably the worst racist on here. Mainly towards the Paki's.

You're damn right, I have better things to do on a Saturday night than respond to whiny biatches - some of us like to entertain friends or spend time with family.

and yeh shes got a foul mouth on her alright. It amuses me that she pretends to be a middle class lady with some cash. I'd bet plenty that shes a low class unhappy women forced to work 8-6 mon - fri at a crappy desk job just to make ends meet.

Absolutely, I can sware like a navey, 12 months working as a consultant at Network rail saw to that! ....I don't recall saying what class I come from, you obviously assumed this all by yourself. Again regarding my life, just more assumptions on your behalf.

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