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British taxpayers pay homeless Polish to go home.


teashoci  
11 Jul 2007 /  #1
Polish immigrants living in poverty in Britain after failing to find work and accommodation are being paid to return home by a London authority worried about the numbers of homeless Eastern Europeans on its streets.

telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/12/npoles12.xml

Why are we letting in so many eastern europeans. It is hitting the british taxpayers pocket very hard.
hello 22 | 891  
11 Jul 2007 /  #2
It is hitting the british taxpayers pocket very hard.

On the other hand, British companies save a lot of money by paying Polish workers 50% less than they would have paid a British worker.
OP teashoci  
11 Jul 2007 /  #3
I know polish people drive wages down, They also take out £1 billion of the uks economy and send it to poland, I wish they would all f*ck off.
hello 22 | 891  
11 Jul 2007 /  #4
I know polish people drive wages down

It's called competition. And competition is always good for the people in the long run. Thanks to immigrant workers you can buy goods and services for less. It all evens out.
OP teashoci  
11 Jul 2007 /  #5
and the minimum wage does not rise with inflation cause these polaks are infecting the place. We dont need more plumber and electricians in the uk modern apprenticships schemes have soared for these trades. Polish people are not wanted or needed GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
11 Jul 2007 /  #6
this is an extract - hardly billions

Westminster was given £167,000 last year to pay for one-way tickets for homeless Poles, as well as extra police officers and an interpreter to help its outreach work

less than £200,000, which equates to about 6 povey scrounger families who know how to screw the system!
johan123 1 | 228  
11 Jul 2007 /  #7
I know polish people drive wages down, They also take out £1 billion of the uks economy and send it to poland, I wish they would all f*ck off.

Your cognative abilities fall short in understanding basic economic principles. Principles that, if applied without bias, would ultimately prove immigration to be beneficial to the UK economy.
OP teashoci  
11 Jul 2007 /  #8
No the working poles are taking billions out of the economy,
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
11 Jul 2007 /  #9
Thanks to immigrant workers you can buy goods and services for less. It all evens out.

It doesnt quite work like that...you really dont think that any of the profits / gain is actually passed on to the man in the street do you...oh you should remove those rose tinted glasses...
OP teashoci  
11 Jul 2007 /  #10
we british avaed the poles from the nazis, now we have to pay them money through the eu. what do they contribute to the uk ..... nothing.
hello 22 | 891  
11 Jul 2007 /  #11
We dont need more plumber and electricians in the uk modern apprenticships schemes have soared for these trades.

If that was true, why is there still demand for Polish plumbers and electricians? You don't mean the British companies hire workers they don't need?
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
11 Jul 2007 /  #12
You don't mean the British companies hire workers they don't need?

No they hire cheaper labour and charge the same to the person they doing the job for, only one winner matie! And it aint Joe Public!
espana 17 | 910  
11 Jul 2007 /  #13
GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY

william wallace? are you ok
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
11 Jul 2007 /  #14
we british avaed the poles from the nazis, now we have to pay them money through the eu. what do they contribute to the uk ..... nothing.

I think you will find that many Polish soliders fort along side us..you really dont need to bring the war in to this...its open borders get used it, would you rather a load more somalians come in the country, I didnt actually see any ski's being charged in court for killing british people...
johan123 1 | 228  
11 Jul 2007 /  #15
No they hire cheaper labour and charge the same to the person they doing the job for, only one winner matie! And it aint Joe Public!

This is absolute nonsense!
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
11 Jul 2007 /  #16
william wallace? are you ok

nice one ;)
johan123 1 | 228  
11 Jul 2007 /  #17
we british

Are you really British! It seems that you make too many basic errors when writing.
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
11 Jul 2007 /  #18
only one winner matie! And it aint Joe Public!

very true
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
11 Jul 2007 /  #19
This is absolute nonsense!

Johan, why is, please explain instead of just telling me this, I would like to know...

Are you really British! It seems that you make too many basic errors when writing.

Sorry are you judging his writing skills??
hello 22 | 891  
11 Jul 2007 /  #20
No they hire cheaper labour and charge the same to the person they doing the job for, only one winner matie! And it aint Joe Public!

I'm not sure what "Joe Public" has to do with it. Even so - why don't you close the borders against all tourists that come to visit the UK? How Joe Public directly profits from tourists visiting the UK?
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
11 Jul 2007 /  #21
Johan the educated skivy! if you are so cleaver why didnt you make something of your life in Poland instead of coming to England...sorry but your kind really made me mad, you go on about the economics of my country and to be honest I really dont like you, you know nothing about the pain people have gone through during recessions etc., its all black and white for you (excuse my spelling!!, but yes I am ENGLISH) I find your clincial approach to my countries history quite an insult.

why don't you close the borders against all tourists that come to visit the UK? How Joe Public directly profits from tourists visiting the UK?

of course, but we're not talking about tourist, and I wasnt talking about closing the borders...read my fekin posts your pr*ck!
Michal - | 1,865  
11 Jul 2007 /  #22
would all f*ck off.

To tell you the truth I do not really like your tone but I must agree with you that with at least 600,000 Polish migrant workers here, or at least, so they say-enough is now enough.
hello 22 | 891  
11 Jul 2007 /  #23
but we're not talking about tourist

I didn't start talking about "Joe Public", did I? If you cannot find a contra-argument, there's no need to get angry and use impolite words...
johan123 1 | 228  
11 Jul 2007 /  #24
Johan, why is, please explain instead of just telling me this, I would like to know

Hi Amathyst,

Hope you are well!

In any free market economy like the UK prices are ultimately set by supply and demand. Prior to immigration certain industries, due to labour shortages, lacked the ability to compete both on a national and international stage. The UK in many areas had lost market share and was set to lose more with the entrance into the EU of former Eastern European countries. Immigration has in many ways reversed this trend and will in the long term benefit price inflation.
hello 22 | 891  
11 Jul 2007 /  #25
Exactly, johan123
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
11 Jul 2007 /  #26
johan123

I apologise about the name calling, you just see England as a land to make money in...to me its my home and i have seen it go through hell.

In answer to your point about inflation, please tell me why the average wage of an average brit does not allow them to buy a house and probably never will unless they mortgage themself to the hilt and risk losing it all it rates increase!...its happened before, have you ever heard of the phrase "boom bust"
OP teashoci  
11 Jul 2007 /  #27
Inflation will rise due to the shortage of housing which will increase bank of england interest rates. And the huge amount of money taking out of the uk by poles and sent back home. The poles filling labour shortages will only keep inflation low fo a short time. In the long run it will cos the uk ta payer.
Michal - | 1,865  
11 Jul 2007 /  #28
No, I do not agree. I have a friend who studied with me in Portsmouth in 1983. He failed his first year examinations and returned to his parents in South West London. He is still there till this very day drawing social security benefits. Recently, he was successful in increasing his social security payments by applying for a top up-an invalidity benefit. This has increased his weekly allowance by two. My question is this, if Margaret Thatcher talked of moving to find work, then how can anybody be unemployed in this country and can apply for state funding if we can also accommodate millions of Eastern Europeans. After all, there are others not only Poles, though I do appreciate they are a majority. I was in a hotel in Leatherhead inquiring as to rates and the girl was from Bialarus, why should therefore be an unemployed pearson in Kingston-Upon-Hull yet we need to recruit in russia?
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
11 Jul 2007 /  #29
I didn't start talking about "Joe Public",

You obviously didnt understand what I meant, never mind!
Angellou  
11 Jul 2007 /  #30
I work for a company that has at least 900 employees. About 1/3 of these are Polish (both in the US and in Poland) about 1/3 are from the Ukraine and 1/3 are a mix of american, persian (iranian) and a mix of others.

I have never worked with people more honest and hard working than the Polish people around me. My partner is a Polish woman who has been in the U.S. approximately 10 years. Her and her family have a great sense of work ethic and are more dependable than most of the Americans I have worked with.

In the U.S. we have the same issue with people that come here from Mexico. They are not here legally and they still get more benefits than the immigrants I know that are here legally, (such as my polish friends), so, take comfort, things are bad everywhere!! :o)

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