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Marti  
26 Aug 2006 /  #61
awesome fresh seafood though

Well, frankly I was very surprised when I was in Florida for the first time though. I thought there would be tons of small "kiosks" that would sell FRESH fish and stuff -- but I found none there. I'm Polish - and whenever I was by the Baltik sea eating fresh fish was a treat; in Florida you don't feel you are by the ocean... I guess it has something to do with FDA rules that forbit selling fresh produce directly on the streets.. :). They should rethink it though...
FISZ  24 | 2116  
26 Aug 2006 /  #62
Yes. When I was staying in Chlopy there were "Ryba smażona" signs everywhere!! In Florida there no where near the amount of these shops. There are a few near the beach but you'll find more oysters and peel & eat shrimp than fried fish.
krysia  23 | 3058  
26 Aug 2006 /  #63
A really cool thing in America are those "all you-can-eat" places. Pure gluttony. No control over how much one should eat. You just eat and eat and eat.

It all tastes the same, whether it's chicken or potato. Just some added flavor here and there.
And since you paid for it, it's a "you better get your money's worth and eat some more" mentality.
As far as bread goes, it really sucks. But some Americans have never tasted any other bread and don't even know that there even exists a diff. bread. Some stores are now offering european breads, but they cost twice as much.
lef  11 | 477  
26 Aug 2006 /  #64
Poland has real bread

The thing is everything is NATURAL. In America skim milk tastes like water. You have to buy the organic kind to get the same taste as the Polish skim milk for example

I agree 100%, I love polish dairy products and breads, they are best in the world, point taken.

Youn may well find in time when big companies take over the smaller family busineses, bread will taste the same as in US or OZ (pretty plain)
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
28 Aug 2006 /  #65
I liked your response, your writing skills suggests that you are not polish, if you are, then well done. You must also belong to the higher level of polish society

Nope. I'm just an "average Pole".

From my experience apart from strawberries in season, tomartoes, cabbage, potatoes are pretty cheap the more exotic fruits are expensive.

So now you are trying to say that these are the only vegetables and fruits that Poles eat on a regular basis? Common lef...:)

There is not much variety in winter unless you are flush with funds and prepared to pay a high price.

Tell me then, what do an average Pole like me eat in winter. I'm very curios.

Besides, one of my favorite dishes is duck with pyzy and red cabbage /"surówka" /"kiszona kapusta". Isn't duck meat considerate to be lean?

What a feast, very nice food, I don't think the average pole would be able to affort such a treat.

Deer with mushrooms, or boar in cranberries are expensive food, but not duck. I eat it regularly.

I don't like saying this but poles have not been exposed to variety of other foods....sorry

According to Wikipedia:
Polish cuisine was influenced by Turkic, Germanic, Hungarian, Jewish, French or colonial cuisines of the past.

I think that this is enough to say that Poles have been exposed to large variety of other foods.
And guess what else? From time to time in my home we eat all kind of pasta's, lasagna, risotto, Chinese lemon chicken, Pot-au-feu, etc... and can appreciate the different taste of this dishes, but still we are proud and bound to our food.

I might say say that I love take away but now only realising that it is bad for you....

Let me guess, your parents didn't prepared you proper dishes when you were little, right?:)

Be honest, please.

Children listen to what is on TV and act accordingly.

Ah yes. The power of Television. Fortunately we don't have many McDonalds commercials in our TV. We don't have that many MacDonald’s stores in our country either. I wonder why?

Don't forget Bill Clinton loved his takeaways.

So did Bill Gates, but what does that change? :)

I hope your right, but going by overseas trends, I don't think so.

Well, I guess that the time will tell.

PS: There is also one more aspect that you didn't took under your consideration, and may be crucial in our discussion, mainly the "Bary Mleczne" (Milk Bars). The are selling Polish food, and they are a lot cheaper than MacDonald’s or KFC. Of course they don't stand a chance in comparison to home made dishes, but still the are a lot better than junk food.

OK, I'm a bit exhausted after work, so I will continue my posting on some other occasion.

Pozdrawiam.
lef  11 | 477  
29 Aug 2006 /  #66
Quoting: lef, Post #77
I liked your response, your writing skills suggests that you are not polish, if you are, then well done. You must also belong to the higher level of polish society

Nope. I'm just an "average Pole".

12 out of 10...average pole but your written english is pretty good

So now you are trying to say that these are the only vegetables and fruits that Poles eat on a regular basis? Common lef...

Thats what the common folk have, the rich can pick and choose.

Tell me then, what do an average Pole like me eat in winter. I'm very curios.

From my experience, plenty of hearty soups, and pork, bigos and pierogi?

Let me guess, your parents didn't prepared you proper dishes when you were little, right?

Be honest, please.

I've been bought up on traditional polish food, some I have retained, most is unsuitable for this climate...although lots of foods have identical ingrediants but prepared differently ie you get polish potatoe pancakes....raw potatoe grated, egg and floor.. salt and pepper..

a great food, here we have potatoe cakes.. sliced raw potatoe dipped in flour batter (salt, pepper, flour egg and deep fryed.. which is better... ? lets toss a coin, I prefer potatoe cakes most of the time..

Take away food is a way of life in western countries...it is a cheap and quick way of eating for people who work full time or long hours..some take away food is bad for you, some is o/k in moderation.. Take away food will clean bowl poland when the economy takes on, it will be carefully engineered to hit all types of people (mainly the young) and like I mentioned in a previous post, people will be voting with there mouths, no amount

of logic re health issues with have any effect. (this is the case in usa/uk/oz) people love there takeaway.

PS: There is also one more aspect that you didn't took under your consideration, and may be crucial in our discussion, mainly the "Bary Mleczne" (Milk Bars). The are selling Polish food, and they are a lot cheaper than MacDonald’s or KFC

They are excellent and cheap, agreed... Please understand western style business operations... Take away food chains discount items, offer prices and gifts. They will offer things cheaper to people until there rivals are unable to compete, The rivals then go bankrupt and then the take away food stores put up the prices...

If Poland was smart they would learn from other countries who have massive take away food options and impose a tax of 50% on all sales of take away...money going to hospitals to treat the effects of junk food...
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
30 Aug 2006 /  #67
12 out of 10...average pole but your written english is pretty good

My father is a car mechanik, and my mother is a seamstress - I think that in UK you would call my background "working class". My job is also generally manual, so as you see I am far from being considered to belong to the higher level of Polish society. Still, I appreciate your complement.

Thats what the common folk have, the rich can pick and choose.

Have you ever been in one of those "Biedronka" markets? "Biedronka" is the name of the largest chain of supermarkets in Poland, owned by a Portuguese firm Geronimo Martens. Their prices are very low, mainly because a large proportion of their own label products are being displayed in their stores. Aside of all kind of sodas, juices, meat, noodles, crisps, milk etc. you can find big varieties of vegetables like olives, potatoes, tomatoes, asparagus, cabbage, carrots, celery, parsley, cauliflower, broccoli, spinach, cucumber, peas, beans, onion, garlic, asparagus, sweet corn, paprika, etc and fruits like apples, almonds, apricots, pears, avocados, bananas, cherries, plums, strawberries, avocados, water melons, pineapples… and the list could go on. It doesn’t look different with availability of those products in winter. Furthermore you can also buy some polish specialties like bigos, kopytka, pyzy, gołąbki, pierogi, surówki, instant gravy, etc… Preparing a polish meal doesn’t have to consume that much time anymore. Just buy pierogis, put them in a pot of boiling salted water, wait couple of minutes and there you go. Of course they will never taste as good as the ones that your grandmother use to do, but they are still better than junk food.

(this is the case in usa/uk/oz) people love there takeaway.

I don't see you mentioning France, Spain, Italy or Portugal. I don't think that the fast foods are that popular in these countries, as they are in Australia or in the USA. Maybe it is because, similar to Poland, they have centuries of cuisine tradition, unlike Oz land and USA? What makes you think that Poland won't make it like those countries? They are still considered western, right?

Yes, Poland is trying to be more like the western countries, but because of the Eastern European reality, it will never become a clone of the USA, nor the Australia.

If Poland was smart they would learn from other countries who have massive take away food options and impose a tax of 50% on all sales of take away...money going to hospitals to treat the effects of junk food...

An average Pole is aware of damaging efects of fast food. Our goevernment is not doing anything about it because it is still a marginall phenomenon in our country.

Hmmmm I wouldnt say that - you're written English is very good - I'd say you were a little above average on ya photo too

I always had a problem with taking a complement from a lady, but thank you very much for your recognition. I’m trying to do my best. Actually one of the main reasons I’m participating in this forum is to improve my English.
lef  11 | 477  
3 Sep 2006 /  #68
Have you ever been in one of those "Biedronka" markets?

Well what can I say..mmm... I must have worn blinkers when in poland as most food dishes involved potatoes, cabbage and pork..

You win the arguement....however when I go to poland next year and I don't get those nice foods you mentioned. I will hold you personally responsible... I still have a score to settle with my relatives in poland for not providing me with better food......

re you written english... you must have been taught by a non national?
Kubrick  
5 Dec 2006 /  #69
Hehe, my friend said to me not long time ago, she saw on the taxi in Krakow sticker on the window "Driver speeks england".

I think, most of polish taxi drivers are too stupid to understand what is foreigner talking about :)
Tom_Poland  1 | 17  
26 Dec 2006 /  #70
If some of you is planning to visit Silesian part of Poland (especially opolskie voivodeship) in the first two weeks of February, just let me know. Maybe I could be your guide then. Cheers!
Zgubiony  15 | 1274  
26 Dec 2006 /  #71
That's nice of you Tom. I haven't visited that part of PL yet...lol everywhere but :) It looks like a very nice city though.....one of these days I'll make it.
Dracula  
27 Dec 2006 /  #72
I hive found ven eatin'd de blood off virginz, ze Slavic vomen taste more organic.
Vere az ven i have punctured and sucked deep into an American vomen's veins it vas like zum form of vucking liposuction. Zo now I only munch on slavic vomen. Thank you and goodnight.
rys-cab-driver  
29 Dec 2006 /  #73
Well, Polish taxi driver income is approx 200-300 pounds, how they can talk English? Those who can are in the UK.
manser  
29 Dec 2006 /  #74
Polish taxi drivers have no need tot alk English. They cant afford to learn English either, so you know. I know this because I got a Taxi from Torun to Warsaw airport. lol. I had some fun talking to him on the way their, ended up laughing and knocking a few back, yes while driving lol.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
29 Dec 2006 /  #75
on the way their

That's not even funny anymore.
Amathyst  19 | 2700  
30 Dec 2006 /  #76
Polish taxi drivers have no need tot alk English. They cant afford to learn English either, so you know. I know this because I got a Taxi from Torun to Warsaw airport. lol. I had some fun talking to him on the way their, ended up laughing and knocking a few back, yes while driving lol.

How strange been to Poland twice and evey taxi driver spoke some english
Steve USA  
31 Dec 2006 /  #77
Hey guys happy new year to you!
I got back from warsaw,poland late december and this is the first time I can tell you guys about the trip,see this is my brothers compute and he lives some way from me.He is helping me with this internet message.

Europe rocked!
I was there 10 days for my boss and had a fun time.I did a whole bunch of stuff with a great guy I met over there.Tomas is a taxi driver who showed me places americans never see and helped me out some.Heres the deal, when I first met Tomas he gave me a short tour of some bars and **** and had a meet with his fiends.That day cost just 60 bucks(Tomas said the other taxi guys cost 100-150!) and Tomas said if we met up he would take me for a ride every day.He told me not to tell my bosses friend or anyone else because 'certain people' might be watching.I think you know who he means!I have a hunch that in Warsaw the soviet kgb guys are waiting for their time again and would be mighty interested in an american like me.

I will tell you about warsaw poland but there was one scary moment when I left poland.Tomas friend gave me some rare polish lager for 5 bucks each bottle, he said it usually goes for 20 bucks but as Tomas friend he gave it me a "special price".My friend Tom even drove me to Warsaw airport for free,but there was a hitch-he checked out the airport first and when he came back to the car he sure looked worried.Now this is what happened - 'someone' (?) tipped off the customs guys about the beer in my baggage.

The cops were waiting for us and Tomas said even attempting to take the rare beer back to the States would land me in jail.Bet those guys at the airport were real happy they were going to catch an american - only problem is Stevie boy had a secret weapon....Tomas! He said for 150 bucks he could "take care" of the problem inside.He went in and 5 minutes later he waved me over and guess what,all the cops and customs guys were gone! My friend saved me from a long holiday in Warsaw jail!

When I got back home Mom sure was happy to see me ,but I figure I have not seen the last of europe.
Ok little brother want his computer back so gotta go but talk to you guys soon and have a great new year!!!!!!!!!!
Steve (USA)

I am back guys! Just looked through my message and I should have said I got back from Poland in late October 2006.
Steve (USA)
Jasiu  
31 Dec 2006 /  #78
brilliant story steve... you were sure lucky tomas was around to help your adventures!!!

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