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Racist text book for Polish schools


gumishu  15 | 6164  
21 Apr 2009 /  #91
There are arguments on both sides but, having lived in both multicultural and mono-cultural environments, I’d have to say that I prefer multicultural environments.

so change for one and stop bashing Poland
z_darius  14 | 3960  
21 Apr 2009 /  #92
There are arguments on both sides but, having lived in both multicultural and mono-cultural environments, I’d have to say that I prefer multicultural environments.

And that's what made you squat in mono cultural Poland for 15 years?
pauls  - | 30  
21 Apr 2009 /  #93
Of course it is but it's not Poland's problem.

Of course it is the problem of those who were attacked! They are liars, bigots, idiots! They themselves are racists!
OP Harry  
21 Apr 2009 /  #94
Well, the numbers say it all. The same numbers that you quoted. Swords have two edges.

Those numbers show that Poland has a problem with racist crime. A problem which you refuse to acknowledge.

Harry:
Yes the one in 144 chance a non-white has of being a victim of racist crime is no problem at all, is it?

Of course it is but it's not Poland's problem.
The problem is those who were attacked.

And because those people are untermenschen every things gonna be all white, yes? Do you blame women for every case of rape too?

Non-whites in Poland are more likely to be victims of racist crime than in France or Germany or Austria but you don’t think that Poland has a problem with racism? You are delusional.

I am not American, never were, never wanted or tried to be and I never will be. You got things mixed up yet again. But then, what's new!

Apologies for that. You are actually Canadian. I got you confused with another coward who ran away from Poland.

Harry:
I can get citizenship here any time I want.

You may get Polish citizenship, but you will never be Polish.

Poland disagrees with you.

Harry: Why hasn't a proud Pole like you come back to Poland yet?

For the same reason you haven't gone home yet.

Poland is my home. That’s one of the reasons I’d like it to be a better place. You can sit in your country thousands of miles away and pontificate all you want, I’m the one who lives in a racist country and wants it not to be racist.

Poland is not your home. It's a motel for you.
I did not abandon Poland, I left an occupied territory.
I don't live in the US and I own the place where I live.

And you have not come back to Poland because of what? Because you prefer your comfortable life in Canada over life in the country you ran away from?

You own the place you live? Bully for you. I own the place where I live and another flat too (where a Polish family lives free of charge).

And yes, Poland is my home, not yours.

You don’t live in Poland and know nothing about modern Poland. Poland hasn't been your home since you abandoned it and refused to return to it. I live here and will continue to live here.

After all, in spite of all those years you did not decide to become a Polish citizen, even if that's just a paper. You decided Poland is a just a spot to spit at, not your home.

I don’t have a Polish passport because I have no need of one. When I need one I’ll fill in the paperwork.
It’s interesting that you say Canada is not your home but you are quite happy for the Canadian education system to pay for your daughter to spend a year going to school overseas. What respect you have for your hosts!

You are a guest and you should behave like one.

If I’m a guest can I stop paying 80,000+ zloty per year in tax in Poland? And not pay 22% VAT on top of that for everything I buy?

If Poland is your home you should come home and stop sponging of the people of Canada.

And that's what made you squat in mono cultural Poland for 15 years?

As already said, I like it here. If you love your home so much, why haven't you lived here for the past 22 years? Even your daughter is moving back here but you can't be bothered.
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
21 Apr 2009 /  #95
They're in denial. Then again, they might just be trying to wind you up.

No no, we're in denial allright :)))

And that's what made you squat in mono cultural Poland for 15 years?

Harriet likes a fat juicy Polish kiełbasa, he likes it raw :-O :)))
OP Harry  
21 Apr 2009 /  #96
Harriet likes a fat juicy Polish kiełbasa, he likes it raw :-O :)))

I see that you have finally given up on an pretence to be able to support your lies about Poland having no problems with racism.

Sadly I won't be responding to you attempts to insult me.
Ironside  50 | 12335  
21 Apr 2009 /  #97
Those numbers show that Poland has a problem with racist crime. A problem which you refuse to acknowledge.

As your posts show that you have a problem, mental problem which you refuse to acknowledge.
And because I like you I say you need a professional help.
good luck
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
21 Apr 2009 /  #98
Sadly I won't be responding to you attempts to insult me.

What insults? Dont you love kiełbasa? Grilled kiełbasa is great :)) Also i've read it and there's nothing there that supports any of your views.
OP Harry  
21 Apr 2009 /  #99
As your posts show that you have a problem, mental problem which you refuse to acknowledge.
And because I like you I say you need a professional help.
good luck

Yet another Pole who refuses to see that a non-white person in Poland having a one in 144 chance of being a victim of racial violence in a single year shows that Poland has a problem with racism. And yet another Pole who tries to deal with the problem by attacking the messenger.
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
21 Apr 2009 /  #100
And yet another Pole who tries to deal with the problem by attacking the messenger.

You have only 1/144 of having your ass kicked dont worry :)))))
OP Harry  
21 Apr 2009 /  #101
Also i've read it and there's nothing there that supports any of your views.

Please quote the parts which say that Poland does not have the number of non-whites I give or that Poland has lower levels of racist crime than I give.

It's not that you are a proven liar who can't be trusted (oh, sorry, wait a minute, you are a proven liar who can't be trusted), I'm just asking you to do exactly the same thing which you asked me to do and which I did.
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
21 Apr 2009 /  #102
Please quote the parts which say that Poland does not have the number of non-whites I give or that Poland has lower levels of racist crime than I give.

I'm not going to get into that boring ebook again Harriet, why dont you cut out the fragments that you invent your stories around and post them here :)))
z_darius  14 | 3960  
21 Apr 2009 /  #103
Those numbers show that Poland has a problem with racist crime. A problem which you refuse to acknowledge.

That problem to Poles is nothing in comparison to the problems they have in some countries where the hopes for immigrant integration have been grossly misjudged:

So again, Poland wants to avoid racial issues like those in the above flick. I hope Poles will fight against the so called "multicultural" hell. At least my generation, who knows the meaning of fight for freedom. The younger generations have no idea about that. They are good at living in a free country but they have no clue how to fight to maintain that freedom.

And because those people are untermenschen every things gonna be all white, yes? Do you blame women for every case of rape too?

Don't bring in women in the picture as this has nothing to do with ethnicity. Don't bring untermensch either as Poles have been traditionally allergic also to Russians (white) and German (uber white). Poles whant Poland for Poles. Simple as that.

Poland disagrees with you.

By now it should be clear even to you that you are not speaking for Poland.

And you have not come back to Poland because of what? Because you prefer your comfortable life in Canada over life in the country you ran away from?

Harry, tell me...you abandoned your parents? You ran away from home? Why do you hate your parents? Ir perhaps you'll just change the worn out record?

I don't have a Polish passport because I have no need of one.

Need one? So you are shuffling your nationalities on an as needed basis, not because you identify yourself with the country? Remember that next time you write about me living in Canada.

It's interesting that you say Canada is not your home but you are quite happy for the Canadian education system to pay for your daughter to spend a year going to school overseas. What respect you have for your hosts!

First, I pay taxes here and above all, I don't spit on Canada like you do on
Poland.

Second, I paid for my education in Canada. Every last cent of it.

Third, my daughter is legally independent and she makes decisions about her education, so I have nothing to do with that. Her scholarships are based on merit, not on her citizenship. The school wanted her so they gave her full scholarships. She rejected plenty of other offers from within Canada and the US.

Fourth, I came to Canada, not to Istanbul or Kinshasa. The country is changing for sure, so I stay where the change is slow and I am one of the most open minded towards minorities. Yup, imagine that. Poles are liberals through and through when compared to the folks who pay my salary.

If Poland is your home you should come home and stop sponging of the people of Canada.

Canada needs me. I'm soft hearted so I'll stay some more.
This is in contrast to you. Poland doesn't need you. Minorities visiting Poland do, and that's not the same.

If you love your home so much, why haven't you lived here for the past 22 years? Even your daughter is moving back here but you can't be bothered.

Making stories again, huh?
She's going for a scholarship, to study and travel around EU. She's young so that is pretty natural - the youthful curiosity. She uses her intelligence and education to do that. When you were about her age you chose to kill a few Arabs in Kuwait. Oh well, that is one of the ways to meet people of different cultures. And then kill them.
gumishu  15 | 6164  
21 Apr 2009 /  #104
Poland has got no whites at all, so no worries, just regular in-black gang violence :P

please quote Bible Harry :P

please get off me you nasty brat :P

I have never hit nor kissed a black person :P

I don't know what you are actually aiming at - does your bashing make this country any better?
Are there racist thugs in Poland - God, yes? Should we kill'em all? Huh? What if they go underground and form a guerilla then? :P

Are the authotorities letting go of those who commit crimes against foreign race members?
Ironside  50 | 12335  
21 Apr 2009 /  #105
Yet another Pole who refuses to see that a non-white person in Poland having a one in 144 chance of being a victim of racial violence in a single year shows that Poland has a problem with racism. And yet another Pole who tries to deal with the problem by attacking the messenger.

I mean most of the threads and your post about Poland and Poles where you pervert the true and interpret facts to suite your views.

Because you seems to know Polish history quite well, I have to assume that you lie.
There two reasons for you to lie either you hate everything about Poland and Poles or you have a very real mental problem.
As for Poland having a problem with racism.
Well, same Poles are racist and same are not but beetwen being racist and actually attack somebody is a big gap.
I agree that there is growing problem with thugs and hoodlum culture but not worse then in UK.
I havent notice you ranting against Brits as you do against Poles.
OP Harry  
21 Apr 2009 /  #106
Don't bring in women in the picture as this has nothing to do with ethnicity.

You say that racist violence is only a problem for the victims, so clearly to you rape is only a problem for women. Nice attitude.

Poles whant Poland for Poles. Simple as that.

’Pole’ meaning ‘white’ of course.

Harry:
Poland disagrees with you.

By now it should be clear even to you that you are not speaking for Poland.

When I say Poland I refer to the Polish government. The one which is elected by the Polish people. According to them I am Polish as soon as I fill in the paperwork.

Harry, tell me...you abandoned your parents? You ran away from home? Why do you hate your parents?

Actually I moved to Poland to work with VSO and Peace Corps. Poland had a need for my skills, I didn’t need Poland.

First, I pay taxes here and above all, I don't spit on Canada like you do on Poland.

And you make sure you get full value for those taxes eh? Good schooling and health care for you, the wife and the kids. Get the most from those taxes, eh.

Second, I paid for my education in Canada. Every last cent of it.

Bully for you. I pay for other people’s educations in Poland and never complain at all about it.

Poles are liberals through and through when compared to the folks who pay my salary.

Well tell us how many non-whites live in Canada and how many racist crimes there are and we can work out for ourselves whether a non-white is safer in Poland or Canada. My money would be very firmly on Canada, despite you slagging off the people there.

This is in contrast to you. Poland doesn't need you. Minorities visiting Poland do, and that's not the same.

Only minorities visiting Poland do? Yes, of course, because nobody except a white person can be Polish,eh? How unfortunate for you that Hitler didn’t manage to kill off all the non-white Poles and that there are still thousands of them in Poland.

As already asked, if Poland doesn’t need me, could it be so kind as to take money from me only for the services it provides for me?

She's going for a scholarship, to study and travel around EU. She's young so that is pretty natural - the youthful curiosity. She uses her intelligence and education to do that.

Funny, you said that her school was paying for it. Now you say she is going for a scholarship. I do wish you could get your story straight.

When you were about her age you chose to kill a few Arabs in Kuwait.

Nice of you to make up more lies. The Kuwait army killed a grand total of zero people while I was in it and the unit I was in has never killed anybody.

Well, same Poles are racist and same are not but beetwen being racist and actually attack somebody is a big gap.

Good to finally encounter a Polish poster who will admit that some Poles are racist (or course some Poles are not racist and I have always said that). Pity that you ignore the fact that a non-white is so likely to be the victim of racist crime here.

I agree that there is growing problem with thugs and hoodlum culture but not worse then in UK.

The statistics would appear to suggest that the problem here is worse.

I havent notice you ranting against Brits as you do against Poles.

Come and post on britishforums.com! No, seriously, I don’t live in the UK and that is why I care far far less about what happens there than what happens here. Fortunately the British racists are by and large too stupid to be a threat. The British racist party ran a campaign calling for Eastern European immigrants to be barred from Britain and used a picture of a Spitfire fighter plane as the backdrop for the launch of the campaign: it was a Spitfire from 303 squadron!!!
z_darius  14 | 3960  
21 Apr 2009 /  #107
You say that racist violence is only a problem for the victims, so clearly to you rape is only a problem for women. Nice attitude.

Yes, it is. As a Pole I don't want my compatriots to become the victims of herds of immigrants with 7th century values.

’Pole’ meaning ‘white’ of course.

Of course. Poles are mostly white.

When I say Poland I refer to the Polish government. The one which is elected by the Polish people. According to them I am Polish as soon as I fill in the paperwork.

But you haven't filled that paperwork.

Actually I moved to Poland to work with VSO and Peace Corps. Poland had a need for my skills, I didn’t need Poland.

There are countries in far greater need than Poland. They need your skills. Hin, hint.

And you make sure you get full value for those taxes eh? Good schooling and health care for you, the wife and the kids. Get the most from those taxes, eh.

Yes, of course I do. And I still won't spit on Canada like you spit on Poland every chance you get.

Bully for you. I pay for other people’s educations in Poland and never complain at all about it.

I never complained about paying taxes or about paying for my education in Canada, so what's your point? Those two lonely brain cells of yours still not contacting?

Well tell us how many non-whites live in Canada and how many racist crimes there are and we can work out for ourselves whether a non-white is safer in Poland or Canada. My money would be very firmly on Canada, despite you slagging off the people there.

Canada is a big country. The province I live in is about 4 times as large as Poland.
Plenty of space to avoid the idiotic multiculturalism which is not working anyway. In Toronto blacks, yes, blacks, wanted their own school system for black only. They got it. Multiculturalism is not working in Toronto.

The crime we hear about is increasingly committed by the so called visible minorities; Jamaicans, Mexicans, Muslims and such.

Only minorities visiting Poland do? Yes, of course, because nobody except a white person can be Polish,eh? How unfortunate for you that Hitler didn’t manage to kill off all the non-white Poles and that there are still thousands of them in Poland

As far as that goes you are clearly the person who regrets that. A projection, nazi boy?

Funny, you said that her school was paying for it. Now you say she is going for a scholarship. I do wish you could get your story straight.

Schools offer scholarship to students they want. With your mediocre intellect I understand that you are unfamiliar with the concept.

The Kuwait army killed a grand total of zero people while I was in it and the unit I was in has never killed anybody.

Bummer, eh? All that training, and computer games and macho poses and nothing. Oh well, spitting at Poles seems like a substitute to you.

Good to finally encounter a Polish poster who will admit that some Poles are racist (or course some Poles are not racist and I have always said that).

So what?
You failed to admit that nearly 30% in Austria are racists. In fact they feel so strongly about that that they voted for politicians with anti-immigration agendas. And that 30% is an increase from just 8 years before. So how's multiculturalism working for Austria?
pauls  - | 30  
21 Apr 2009 /  #108
herds of immigrants with 7th century values

Aha, we didn't realise Poland is ahead of the herds by 14 centuries only! Darwin says it should take longer than that to evolve. Only 14 centuries, those living in Poland must also be herds only today?

If any value could be classified into any given century, which century's value do the 'herds'(excuse the language!) of Polish migrant labour in UK have?
gumishu  15 | 6164  
21 Apr 2009 /  #109
11th B.C. :)
OP Harry  
21 Apr 2009 /  #110
Yes, it is. As a Pole I don't want my compatriots to become the victims of herds of immigrants with 7th century values.

A superb comment coming from somebody who appears to have brought 18th century values with him when emigrating to a 20th century country. What do you think would happen to a Canadian professor who set a question asking how to drown Turks but not Christians? That is because Canada doesn’t have the same backward values you brought to it.

Harry:
’Pole’ meaning ‘white’ of course.

Of course. Poles are mostly white.

But you haven't filled that paperwork.

I may have to fill it in just to p*ss you off.

There are countries in far greater need than Poland. They need your skills. Hin, hint.

I’ve done my bit thanks. Where you in Peace Corps or VSO or did you just think “self self self”?

Yes, of course I do. And I still won't spit on Canada like you spit on Poland every chance you get.

But you’re happy to spit on the Canadian people who pay your wages and on your fellow Canadian citizens.

I never complained about paying taxes or about paying for my education in Canada, so what's your point?

But you won’t pay for a school for black people. I happily pay for schools which are exclusively for practicing Catholics.

In Toronto blacks, yes, blacks, wanted their own school system for black only. They got it. Multiculturalism is not working in Toronto.

You should move back to Poland. Non-whites here get taught there place in life at the rate of one in 144 every year.

Only minorities visiting Poland do? Yes, of course, because nobody except a white person can be Polish,eh? How unfortunate for you that Hitler didn’t manage to kill off all the non-white Poles and that there are still thousands of them in Poland

As far as that goes you are clearly the person who regrets that. A projection, nazi boy?

Yes, I work with Roma organisations because I wish the Nazis had killed all Roma.

Schools offer scholarship to students they want. With your mediocre intellect I understand that you are unfamiliar with the concept.

I see that you are unaware that many organisations other than schools give scholarships. Perhaps you should ask for a refund on that edukashun you dun got.

Bummer, eh? All that training, and computer games and macho poses and nothing.

Not at all. The unit I joined was very much not a front line unit.

You failed to admit that nearly 30% in Austria are racists.

I gave the number who voted that way but not the percentage. You have failed to even acknowledge that any of your countrymen are racists.
Ironside  50 | 12335  
21 Apr 2009 /  #111
Aha, we didn't realise Poland is ahead of the herds by 14 centuries only! Darwin says it should take longer than that to evolve. Only 14 centuries, those living in Poland must also be herds only today?

Im sure you are a very tolerant and evolved person as you showed for all to see and admire in your posters.
pauls  - | 30  
21 Apr 2009 /  #112
pauls:
Aha, we didn't realise Poland is ahead of the herds by 14 centuries only! Darwin says it should take longer than that to evolve. Only 14 centuries, those living in Poland must also be herds only today?
Im sure you are a very tolerant and evolved person as you showed for all to see and admire in your posters.

It is nothing more than a logical inferrence from a much more tolerant and evolved person's words "herds of immigrants with 7th century value".

Plenty of space to avoid the idiotic multiculturalism which is not working anyway.

How could the Canadians avoid you, a Polish migrant, if they are also trying to avoid the idiotic multiculturalism? Doesn't seem to work. They seem to stuck with you, the Polish migrant.
OP Harry  
21 Apr 2009 /  #113
They seem to stuck with you, the Polish migrant.

He's certainly not planning to move to the place he calls "home" any time soon!
z_darius  14 | 3960  
21 Apr 2009 /  #114
Aha, we didn't realise Poland is ahead of the herds by 14 centuries only! Darwin says it should take longer than that to evolve.

Darwin said nothing about what is referred to as human "values".
Btw. it wouldn't be time entirely lost if you actually read some Darwin, instead of relying inference based on hearsay.

How could the Canadians avoid you, a Polish migrant, if they are also trying to avoid the idiotic multiculturalism? Doesn't seem to work. They seem to stuck with you, the Polish migrant.

That's easy. I'm not trying to shove my background down their throats. I came to Canada, not "little Poland" and I bear that in mind, and it would be good if you did that too in reference to your cultural background, asian migrant.
southern  73 | 7059  
21 Apr 2009 /  #115
I wish the Nazis had killed all Roma.

Gypsies or Romanians?

Non-whites here get taught there place in life at the rate of one in 144 every year.

Austrians have to have plenty of work to do that is why they do not manage them all.
Ironside  50 | 12335  
21 Apr 2009 /  #116
It is nothing more than a logical inferrence from a much more tolerant and evolved person's words "herds of immigrants with 7th century value".

And words of one person is more that enough for you to feel justified to make sweeping statements.
z_darius  14 | 3960  
22 Apr 2009 /  #117
Gypsies or Romanians?

Harry has been having second thoughts about the usefulness of all nations under nazi sphere of influence during ww2.
pauls  - | 30  
22 Apr 2009 /  #118
pauls:
It is nothing more than a logical inferrence from a much more tolerant and evolved person's words "herds of immigrants with 7th century value".
And words of one person is more that enough for you to feel justified to make sweeping statements.

It was not a statement, it was a question.

Harry:
Yes the one in 144 chance a non-white has of being a victim of racist crime is no problem at all, is it?

Of course it is but it's not Poland's problem.
The problem is those who were attacked.

The problem of a racist crime is a problem of victims. The Poles, being called "untermenschen" by the Nazis, who suffered as victims of the Nazi racist crimes during WWII, only had themselves to blame?

Brothers and sisters in Poland, is this not an insult of the worst kind by a compatriot?
bimber94  7 | 254  
22 Apr 2009 /  #119
What Harry says about Poland, he's unlikely to say about Palestine...sorry I mean Israel.
pauls  - | 30  
22 Apr 2009 /  #120
pauls:
How could the Canadians avoid you, a Polish migrant, if they are also trying to avoid the idiotic multiculturalism? Doesn't seem to work. They seem to stuck with you, the Polish migrant.
That's easy. I'm not trying to shove my background down their throats. I came to Canada, not "little Poland" and I bear that in mind, and it would be good if you did that too in reference to your cultural background, asian migrant.

The reality is, wherever I live, I need not be conscious about my Asian cultural background at all. I live as an individual with my head held high, as anybody else does.

Here in London, nobody tells me that my values belong to x centuries ago, because every individual has his own values. Having passed through Heathrow airport many dozen times, nobody has detained me even once, simply because I look different.

Yes, such an idiotic multicultural place. As soon as Poland was admitted to the EU (Courtesy: idiotic multicultural countries such as UK, France and other EU members), "herds"(allow me to borrow this word one more time) of (in fact, millions of) Poles chose to come to join us in this idiotic multicultral place. Neither I , nor my fellow UK residents, try to classify their values into a particular century. In the suburb where I live in west London, there is a Polonia Club, with the Polish national flag flying high. No graffti racist abusive words on the wall.

I am pleased that many Poles take up their opportunities here they otherwise do not have. Billions of Pounds has since been repatriated back to Poland, and the benefit is far beyond the Poles working in UK.

This is UK, an idiotic but open-minded multicultural society.

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