Racist text book for Polish schools

Unfortunately you are wrong.

European kids are growing up that there is nothing wrong with that while there is a lot of wrong with that. The entire European civilization as we know it now is in danger of Islamization within our life time. And don't give us the bit about "peaceful Islam". There is nothing peaceful about Islam. It never grew up and it is as violent as it had been when its followers slaughtered the peoples of Byzantium.

In fact it already seems to late for some EU countries. The Netherlands is seeing record emigration, so is Germany, France and UK. Sweden and Denmark are both in serious trouble because of their lax immigration policies. In France, even Jews emigrate in record numbers to the war zone known as Israel.

For the first time in recent history more people emigrate from some of the EU countries than arrive. To aggravate the issue, the European emigrants are mostly people with high skills and education, holding good jobs. They are replaced with tribal thugs, with minds belonging to the 7th century AD.

I see nothing wrong with defending a country's character while being open to the outside influence. Outside influence should not be confused with the 5th column that Islam is. If Poles decide to maintain the character of their country then so be it. Go for a visit and you will be politely accepted and respected. Don't go there to settle. Leave Poland in the alleged "dark ages" while you enjoy the many benefits of multiculturalism and the benevolence of Islam in countries such as Sudan.


As illustrated by many other EU countries which were just fine before being flooded with the medieval thugs?

Could this be the reason the mathematics textbook writer had in mind, before he decided to bring in Christianity and Islam to the light of this kids? See, it makes no sense trying to make you understand. He, just like you, make up the 80% of Poles that are not tolerant...So there is not reason to argue with you.

I stood once with a friend in the front of a church in a town close to Wroclaw. I am not white. A woman walked pass me and stopped a few meters away from me and said in Polish Language that "there was no God for me in that church". She looked like she was in here late 40's or early 50's. My friend argued with her for a min and later told me what she said. I am a christian, but was shocked at why would someone ever say that to anyone. After that incident I tagged Poles as christian terrorist. Sorry to bring this up, but its the truth and we cant hide from this fact. That night, I was on my flight home..Canada. There are so many Poles here, and we dont discriminate against poles here...

Read this. This was written by Ironside


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I am not. This clearly says that intolerance is here. Intolerance against religions, against Gays, against people with different skin colour.

So go ahead and defend your reason to be intolerant. Other Poles on PF will support you.

I doubt it, i believe it was supposed as a joke, a stupid one but a joke none the less.


Tolerance has its limits, England, Germany and France all have problems with Islamic communities, Islam is an evil religion that preaches violence and agressive conversion, seeing only the good in Islam or treating Islam as if its darker side was not significant means putting our civilization, culture, way of life and physical well being in danger.


Sadly there's racism in Poland, not THAT much but there is a problem, our reservations about Islam however are fully justified.


Which makes you an idiot, of course given that you did not just invent the story which still makes you an idiot, you critisize generalizations and supposed racism and then make a heavily racist statement yourself, are you just stupid, just a hypocrite or a stupid hypocrite?


Canada has minorities for a very long time, Poland has been a purely white catholic country for nearly 70 years now so there's different factors at work, that still doesnt justifiy your racist idiocy directed against Poles in the post, given your eagerness to tag all Poles with a negative brand i'm inclined to believe you just made the story up to justify your negative opinion stemming from prejudice.

As for Islam? It disregards human rights, rights of women, is civilizationally backwards and actively promotes all those evil things so years, its religion is evi, many of its followers are evil or misguided or simply horribly backwards so its better to keep it out of Poland.

Like i said ...go ahead and defend ur right to be intolerant.

by the way...my bad bout the christian terrorist word...

You know i dont mind but dont try to be liberal and extreme right in the same post, decide.


I'm not intolerant, tolerance as with everything needs to be applied inteligently, you cant be tolerant towards everyone and everything, there's things, cultures and religions among them that are hostile, evil or misguiding, should they be tolerated and embraced as well?

Are you tolerant towards people of different colour?

I'm indifferent to colour, its cultures, religions and beliefs that bug me, its not what color your arse is that defines you, its what you believe in, where you grew up and such.

As is seen here blacksoul is a racist. You define people by color you are a racist, dont even try to argue against that. People are naturally racist and you cannot change that about them.You have a case of mild racism. Differently, extreme forms of racism is the worst since it destroys society.

Also, who needs to be Tolerant? How do you define Tolerance? If we define tolerance YOUR way than you will by default be INTOLERANT to other peoples values. This can happen because if your "TOLERANCE" prevents/destroys the majority of the values of the Poles than you yourself became a dictator of your values. You cannot be tolerant to the whole world, that is just a lack of culture, morals, character. Just because some European countries prefer the English/ American mode of "TOLERANCE" does not mean Poland has to. Throughout history Poland has ALWAYS had a different view of freedom than the Americans have. If you read the SECOND constitution (declaration of independence/democracy), which may i say was written by POLAND, than you will see how different Poles view freedom. It is very similar to what Poland is trying to do now. By no means is Poland obligated to follow some other peoples views on "Tolerance". Instead they follow a path of isolation and cultural preservation, which in turn helps in the right of self-preservation.

If Poland decides they want to have a Catholic country who likes to uphold traditional values, than geuss what? The Poles have the liberty to do so. If they deem that Islam is going to harm their people than Geuss what? They have the right to defend against that with Racism if needed.

Dont forget that since Racism is human nature it serves a purpose. That purpose is the categorize people so that your mind can make decisions quickly. This comes in handy when people are trying to avoid being killed in the pursuit of the right of Self- preservation.

Therefore, Even though extreme racism is bad, Basic forms of it exist and should be used when the environment deems it necessary.

As long as the Poles respect foreigners if foreigners respect them than I see no problem with them doing what they want. They are at liberty to do what they want!

yes I am tolerant towards people of different colour unless they raid my house, steal my car, threaten to kill me or deal drugs to my kids - any ideas

That's because he's a racist. There are no bigger racists than those accusing others of racism all the time.


Sure I am. Are you ?

Are you tolerant towards Poles?


Despite your continous false accusations about alleged racism in Poland you passed off as the only racist in this thread:)

Has anyone read this? It gets interesting on page 2 with mediawatch.

If this is how the next generation in Poland is being taught, little wonder what Poland is like.

I've seen all sorts of racist remarks, but simply not something as outrageous as such a mathematics question.

Good stuff.

And what Poland is like? Seems this thread became a hub for sockpuppet accounts of several users who post here to bash Poland venting their hatred.

Sokrates, did you follow the link?

Yep but if there's a specific point you were making i cant see it.

I suppose it was an entire thread. A lot to read, including a lot of rubbish, but I thought that pointing you at a thread would give you a more general idea. However, I was specifically looking at the way MediaWatch pounced on finT regarding a story about Polish jokes and then how Mr. T. reacted to that. Generalisations rarely hit the nail on the head, but it was interesting to see the double standards - we can tell 'jokes' about you, but you can't tell 'jokes' about us.

It is an odd way of framing the Josephus permutation, a mathematical problem that is often described in terms of people standing in a circle being executed. I prefer Fibonacci numbers which are often described in terms of bunny rabbits in the act of reproduction.

Discussing racist problems in Poland = Anti-Polish??

Racist and Xenophobic. Like it or not, Poland does not seem to have a great reputation in the subject being discussed. Is the mathematics question not sufficiently self-explanatory?

Being a non-European, I have travelled through a large majority of the countries in the continent. My personal experience (largely from the treatment by government officials) is such that Poland has a long way to go to catch up with its fellow EU countries. Other countries comparable with Poland are: East Germany (legacy from Stasi), Czech Republic, Hungary, Bulgaria, (and, Turkey).

you can tell jokes about us osiol but some People are not telling jokes
just deliberately slandering Poles in general instead

and some other make some stories based on deliberately fabricated reputation
some allude to some fabricated reputations

some conceive suspicion as racism (e.g. paul)

etc etc.

You are just a race obssesed guy, a racist. If somebody doesn't like It doesn't mean that It's because of your race. Get a life.

No, forwarding invented personal stories designed to justify negative opinions followed by generalized prejudiced statements eg: "all Poles are" = Anti-Polish.


This too is racist of you, why? Because if you spoke out of academic knowledge you'd know that Russia, France or Austria are among many countries far more xenophobic and racist than Poland, Poland is ranked as a moderate country in that regard, racism is a problem here as anywhere but its not a burning issue like in some countries.

Since you do not speak basing on academic knowledge that means you're presenting what amounts to your personal views, if your views have no practical basis yet paint Poland in a negative light the reasons are emotional, which translates to prejudice against Poland.


It is very important to underline the tactic commonly used on these boards, racists and other prejudiced people who know that their argument will not hold to statistical burden of proof showing that Poland as such is not a horribly racist state resort to "personal experience" to make up arguments that reinforce their otherwise ridiculous cialms.

In other words you're a liar.


Not only are you a liar but an idiot, Stasi was the ministry of state security, racism in Eastern Germany has everything to do with lack of denazification and following re-education of the nation and nothing to do with the security services as such, as you can see we've exposed you as a guy who has vague ideas of how "things look like" and tries to trow them across the room without any solid argument behind it.

Poland is not severely racist, many European states both Western and Eastern are far more racist, your personal stories mean absolutely nothing since they can be readily invented to suit your ridiculous arguments.


INobody is perfect, which sums up Poland pretty well, there's regions where there's racism, there's regions which are liberal, there's a veriety of factors but people claiming "Poland is racist" are anti-Polish since its a false statement when you look at the scale of the real issue which is much much smaller.

I do know why someone can have a personal experiennce of "racist Poles". Lets say, a reckless driver crashes into my car. I got mad from anger, I just bought it. And if that driver was black, he would be convinced that I'm crazy racist.

But I'm not, I'm just furious about my damaged car. So I will call him names,the ones I know from TV and books, that are the most offensive to the black people. Not because I care, even in the slightest, about his skin colour. Because I'm furious about my damaged car. I belive, I would restarain myself in the case of a a woman, but a man I'd like to offend as much as posslible ;-) About anything I think would be offensive to him.

Then, from what I gathered, in some Western countries, white guy would be affraid to sound "racist". But, why I should care about that is beyond me.

because you should be a decent human being - it does not matter if you really are - you should be :P

hey


hey I was only asking whats your point? picking at me?

Oh yeah Canada is so tolerant remember that accident at the airport?

It doesn't need "all Poles are.." to make racism a serious problem in Poland. Who has ever said "all Poles are..." here? Or, for that matter, who could have said "all Germans before 1945 were..."? It did not alter the fact that before 1945 Germany had a serious problem.


Can you provide us with a League Table? We would be delighted to see it.


Since you set up a high academic standard for the posts here, and 'personal experience' doesn't count, Herr Dr. Prof. Sokrates, you owe us the authority you have omitted to quote to support this and other assertions here.


The official function of Stasi was clearly state security. But who can deny the impact of Stasi penetrated far beyond security issues in East Germany? What was referred to here was the mentality inherited from the DDR days, in respect of human relationships, namely, distrust, narrow-mindedness, feelings of insecurity for self-protection. Foreigners apparently are easy targets.

Read this.

bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mihirbose/2008/04/polish_footballs_racism_proble_1.html

Shocking, some football huligans are racist.

Are you one of those marxist ANTIFA hoodlooms?

treatment by grovernment officials? Whats about USA ?

Clearly that is rubbish. Saying "All Poles are Polish" is not anti-Polish. "Saying all Poles are wonderful people and not in the slightest bit racist" is delusional.


Where Poland ranks depends on which figures one uses. If you use total number of racist attacks, Poland ranks as a very moderate country. However, using that number to define Poland as a tolerant nation is as valid as claiming that the number of people who die on Antarctica is very low and therefore Antarctica is the safest continent on the planet. Look at the number of racist attacks per thousand non-white inhabitants and suddenly Poland becomes a very untolerant place to live if you aren't white.


Poland does have a problem with racism. Far too many Poles are racist. Simply sticking your head in the sand and denying that there is any problem other than a very small one is not going to solve anything.

One racist is far too many, its however not nearly as bad as in most other European countries and blanket statements like "Poland is racist" or "Poles are (insert adjective) mean only that the author has a bone to pick with Poles and hides behind stuff like that to sound credible.


Poland 'is' a relatively tolerant nation, of course a black guy will get stares, he's in a country where many people only ever saw blacks on tv.

Also could you give a link to statistics? I'm not doubting you at all despite you being a prick, just curious.

Nonsense again. If somebody wants to attack some non-white person, It doesn't matter If he see 20 of them a day or 200. That could make some sense If the number of non-white people in Poland was extremly samll but It isn't, It is no less than 150k.

Generally you and your kind can't provide any facts except ********* like "they were staring at me !". Obviously accusation of racism, "anti-semitism" etc. are more and more often not a defensive weapon but the offensive one. Oy.