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Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
11 Dec 2008 /  #1
Mariusz Błaszczak, an MP representing Poland's largest opposuiton grouping, Law & Justice, told a news cofnerence his party was preparing a protest by the Sejm against EU interference in Polish family legislation.

He was responding to a European Parliament EP draft resolution stating that
'EU members should mutually recognize homosexual couples regardless of whether they are married or remain in official partnerships.'

The protest drafted by PiS states: 'The Sejm of the Republic of Poland strongly rejects attempts by some EU institutions to interfere in the competencies of member states to a degree that oversteps the competencies of this supra-

national organization. (...) The Parliament of the Republic of Poland hereby appeals for a halt to steps currently undertaken on the EU forum towards the EU-wide recognition of homosexual marriages and granting them equal family rights, the resolution.'

The resolution warns that, if implemented, the EP measure would legalise homosexual marriages in all EU countries, including Poland.

This the Polish Parliament does not agree to. It is the opinion of
the Sejm of the Republic of Poland that the institution of
marriage as a bond solely between woman and man requires the
special protection of the Republic of Poland, they wrote.

In its resolution PiS also stressed that membership treaties did
not empower the EU to impose legislation in public or family
matters on its members.
mafketis 34 | 12,213  
11 Dec 2008 /  #2
Oooh equality and rights for someone different from them, no wonder PiS hates it.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
11 Dec 2008 /  #3
Most Poles believe that only families are entitled to families rights. Two homos shacking up together are not a family. I suppose one could grant equal rights to perform brain surgery to everyone who fancies that sort of thing, and there are people who say 'animals are also human' (??!!), but.............
dtaylor 9 | 823  
11 Dec 2008 /  #4
I suppose one could grant equal rights to perform brain surgery to everyone who fancies that sort of thing

That must go down as the most stupid comment i've ever read.
Harry  
11 Dec 2008 /  #5
Oooh equality and rights for someone different from them, no wonder PiS hates it.

You mean 'someone who is openly different from them and not willing to hide their true self'.

Anybody who disagrees with the statement above is welcome to list the girlfriends of Jarek DuckBoy.
mafketis 34 | 12,213  
11 Dec 2008 /  #6
Two homos shacking up together are not a family.

from Wikipedia: pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Waldorff

(my translation)

"Jerzy Waldorff was gay. In his autobiography "The dance of life with death" he wrote that that was the reason his father disowned him. His life partner was the dancer Mieczysław Jankowski, with whom he spent the last 60 years of his life, beginning in 1939 and who toward the end of his (Waldorff's) life cared for him and (their) home. The pair tried to hide their union avoiding appearing in public together and in interviews Waldorff presented Jankowski as a cousin."

But to Polonius 3, Waldorff was just a homo shacking up with another.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
11 Dec 2008 /  #7
Odd examples can be found the support any notion, thesis or theory. Hitler was a humanitarian because he loved dogs and was often pictured hugging babies and handing out sweets to schoolchildren. But this is not about Waldorf or some other isolated example, it is about the fact that a family is a procreative union of a man and woman, and two blokes somodising each other does not meet that description.

Besides, these guys want adoption rights. Would you give an orphan, who already has suffered enough trauams by being abandoned, raised in an institution or foster care, to a homosexual couple who statistically:

-- Have a low stability level (average "stable" homo partnership lasts 2 years, hetero -- 12 years),
-- Have a higher substance-abuse rate;
-- Have a higher domestic violence rate;
-- Suffer more health problems;
-- Have a higher premature mortality rate (20-25 years shorter than heteros).
One can shout slogans about equality, gay rights, democracy, freedom of choice, etc., etc., but what kind of freedom does an orphan placed into such custody have?
mafketis 34 | 12,213  
11 Dec 2008 /  #8
I call Godwin for your Hitler-bomb.

a family is a procreative union of a man and woman

If this were true, then infertile heterosexual couples would not be allowed to marry and fertility tests would be a precondition of marriage. After all, an infertile couple bumping nasties (sodomy I guess by your definition) does not meet your definition of family.

Actually maybe you've explained one of the reasons that there are so many visibly pregnant brides in Poland - the priests are requiring proof of fecundity before couples can get married.

If I were an orphan I'd rather be adopted by a loving gay couple than live in an orphanage.

As for your statistics, some citations would be helpful.
dtaylor 9 | 823  
11 Dec 2008 /  #9
Polonius3

Why don't you take your stone age view back to your priest??? he'll probarly be fecking some young lad up the ass.....after all isnt that what the catholic church is famous for??
mafketis 34 | 12,213  
11 Dec 2008 /  #10
Yeah the statistics for sexual abusers among priests is way higher than the among the general population.

Does this mean people should stop going to church?
dtaylor 9 | 823  
11 Dec 2008 /  #11
Don't ask that question, just like every priest and god lover, you will recieve a uote from the book rather than an original thought.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
11 Dec 2008 /  #12
narth.com/docs/whitehead.html
But don't stop there; find your own stuff on the net. There is a huge amount of information, medical studies, satistical data. If someone is really determined, they can probably piece together odds,. ends and titbits showing that practising homosexuals live longer, healthier lives and create more stable, long-lasting relationships and mroe loving families than do their hetero counterparts.

Good luck. You'll need it!
RJ_cdn - | 267  
11 Dec 2008 /  #13
You are one confused man.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446  
11 Dec 2008 /  #14
Read a little more closely, please, before jumping to conclusions. The previous post simply suggested that through antics with semantics, manipulating facts and taking things out of context one can prove most anything...on paper. Even so preposterous a contention that practising homosexuals live longer, healthier lives and create more stable, long-lasting relationships and more loving families than do their hetero counterparts.

Of course, the above contention is utterly false, but when was the last time you saw the PC crowd bringing these obvious facts before the public? Its all hush-hush, sweep the dirt under the rug and muzzle or discredit anyone (with the stale old chant of "homophobia"!) who tires to bring all the facts out into the open.
mafketis 34 | 12,213  
12 Dec 2008 /  #15
Polonius, it wouldn't be hard to show truly awful statistics for being Polish vs veing German where

Poles have higher rates of alcoholism
Poles have higher rates of crime (Pole on Pole _and_ Pole on German)
Poles have higher rates of corruption in public institutions than Germans
Poles have lower life expectancy rates than Germans
Poles have a lower literacy rate than Germans
Poles have higher unemployment than Germans
Poles have lower income than Germans (and a higher percentage living in poverty)

So the obvious conclusion is that Poles should try to become German?

Even if I accepted your statistics at face value (which I don't) none of them are reasons in and of themselves for not allowing same sex marriage.

Actually since married heterosexuals tend to live longer than never marrieds, you can make a good case that health policy demands same sex marriage.
IronsE11 2 | 442  
12 Dec 2008 /  #16
it is about the fact that a family is a procreative union of a man and woman

So infertile heterosexual couples can't be a family?

Polonius3

I could address all of the bull you have posted and make rational arguments to the contrary, but instead I'm just going to call you a bigoted c*nt. Now f*ck off and fish somewhere else you waste of oxygen.
espana 17 | 937  
12 Dec 2008 /  #17
bigoted c*nt. Now f*ck off

Please watch your language
IronsE11 2 | 442  
12 Dec 2008 /  #18
Thanks espana. Duly noted.
ukpolska  
12 Dec 2008 /  #19
Polonius3

Isn't it the ones that shout the loudest usually have something to hide?
Just a thought!!

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