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Polish politician thrown off Lufthansa plane. Just enjoy.


Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
18 Feb 2009 /  #31
I've read the translated version and therefore I know that your Prof wanted to read papers he hadn't paid for, he wasn't entailed to. Had he bought a ticket for business class he could have had them anytime, but he hadn't but still wanted the papers so he just took them.

HE WAS WRONG and had to face the consequences. Maybe one has to be a Pole to feel unfairly and racistically treated by the mean Germans, I dunno...

Oh and he got surely not thrown out because he asked politely...you really believe anything as long as it suits your world view, don't you?

And yes, please make this stuff world wide public and go to court, you will become the laughing stock!
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
18 Feb 2009 /  #32
Two people who didn't follow the rules happened to be Poles

These idiots aren't Poles, they are Gerries.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
18 Feb 2009 /  #33
Last I read the unorderly Rokita and the stealing Prof were both Poles...better they keep to polish transport from now on, there they can do what they want!
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
18 Feb 2009 /  #34
Female Rokita is Germanik and a guy must be too...
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
18 Feb 2009 /  #35
I've read the translated version and therefore I know that your Prof wanted to read papers he hadn't paid

To which you inform the client that he is not entitled to it, calling the police and forcing him out of the plain is a perfectly legal basis to sue Lufthansa.

HE WAS WRONG and had to face the consequences. Maybe one has to be a Pole to feel unfairly and racistically treated by the mean Germans, I dunno...

Actually yes he was wrong but the consequences were not only based on his nationality but were against the law which is why he was given a free flight and a five star hotel.

He did take it which means that A. he was in a hurry. B. he was an idiot.

Personally i'd sue them and squeeze them for a pretty penny, the captains and crews are allowed to kick people off if they breach the safety of the flight ( like Janek did ) but there's limits to such liberties and these limits are named by law which Lufthansa broke.

I myself had a run in with German police near Frankfurt but i did not accept simple apologies and both gits ended up with a reprimend in their papers, plenty of Poles are pulled over by your Police and searched or legitimized for no other reason than being Polish, i just had the foreknowledge to record their behaviour on my cellphone which helped with the civil lawsuit.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
18 Feb 2009 /  #36
Female Rokita is Germanik and a guy must be too, who else would marry a German woman ?

I don't think so...she screeched quite polakish not german

Actually yes he was wrong

Please spare me the rest of your apologizing and explaining..the fact is all what counts, period!

It's a case of misbehaving Poles not of prejudices against Poles.
To many Rokitas!
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
18 Feb 2009 /  #37
I don't think so...she screeched quite polakish not german

No they're right, Nelly Rokita is a native German, she's been living in Poland for quite some time and with a polish husband so that might be a reason ( her polish sucks though ).
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
18 Feb 2009 /  #38
No they're right, Nelly Rokita is a native German

Yuck! How embarassing!
miranda  
18 Feb 2009 /  #39
Nelly Rokita is a Russian born German, that is if we want to stick to facts;)
Prince  15 | 590  
18 Feb 2009 /  #40
From my personal prespective it is strange that Germans excused for their behavior when they check in Wiki who Rokita is.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
18 Feb 2009 /  #41
Wait...I just googled her:

Nelly Rokita (née Nelli Arnold, June 26, 1957 in Chelyabinsk, USSR) is a Polish politician who was elected an MP as a Law and Justice candidate.

NOT GERMAN!
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
18 Feb 2009 /  #42
NOT GERMAN!

Nelly Rokita born into a german family settled in Georgia in XIX.

Meh... i guess that doesnt make her German, well you lost nothing she's actually even worse than her husband.
Prince  15 | 590  
18 Feb 2009 /  #43
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelly_Rokita

. She was born in the Soviet Union in an ethnic German family, lived in Germany, where she obtained a university degree in Slavic studies. Rokita first visited Poland in the 1980s on a scholarship to the Jagiellonian University to study the language of political propaganda in the Polish People's Republic

miranda  
18 Feb 2009 /  #44
NOT GERMAN!

you haven't finished reading:)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
18 Feb 2009 /  #45
If she were a cool person I would probably claim her but so....you can have her!
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
18 Feb 2009 /  #46
Please spare me the rest of your apologizing and explaining..the fact is all what counts, period!

It's a case of misbehaving Poles not of prejudices against Poles.
To many Rokitas!

I apologized ? Law clearly declares that crew can evict a passenger if he acts agressively or his behaviour constitutes a breach of flights safety, the guy asked for a newspaper and got booted for that which is clearly a breach of contract and he could earn a pretty penny off a lawsuit, even more if he could prove this prejudice was motivated by his nationality.

By your logic if someone crosses the street on red lights police can shoot him, law clearly regulates consequences allowed for overstepping.
miranda  
18 Feb 2009 /  #47
If she were a cool person I would probably claim her but so....you can have her!

he, he.......very clever;)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
18 Feb 2009 /  #48
even more if he could prove this prejudice was motivated by his nationality.

You know Sokrates, most Germans don't spend their nights thinking about how they can harass every hapless Pole they might encounter next day, believe it or not!

By your logic if someone crosses the street on red lights police can shoot him, law clearly regulates consequences allowed for overstepping.

No, but you better don't file a lawsuit against the Police who might point that out to you and accuse him of anti-polish prejudices if a police man tries to stop you!
szarlotka  8 | 2205  
18 Feb 2009 /  #49
most Germans don't spend their nights how they can harass every hapless Pole they might encounter next day, believe it or not!

Another myth exploded;)

When someone can convince me what the behaviour of this guy REALLY was on the aircraft I'll make a judgement on the incident. Lots of newspaper reports, claims and countercalims as usual. If he was agressive, rude or plain old objectionable the crew are within their rights to boot him off.

To avoid a similar problem for yourselves in the future, only fly with Singapore Airlines.
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
18 Feb 2009 /  #50
You know Sokrates, most Germans don't spend their nights how they can harass every hapless Pole they might encounter next day, believe it or not!

Nothing to believe, most gerries are human beings living out their little lives like everyone else, however the problem exists, i dont give a crap what they think of me but i expect to be treated as i would in civilized society.

No, but you better don't file a lawsuit against the Police who might point that out to you and accuse him of anti-polish prejudices!

The buggers in question called me and the lady quite a lot of things, the mistake they made was adding adjective "polnisch" before them.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
18 Feb 2009 /  #51
So...you really wanted to cross at red lights??? *tsk tsk*

*wriggles finger at Sokrates*
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
18 Feb 2009 /  #52
So...you really wanted to cross at red lights??? *tsk tsk*

They looked so greensih from where i was standing.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
18 Feb 2009 /  #53
Must be those new mean anti-polish lights, they did that with purpose!
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
18 Feb 2009 /  #54
There's definately some Polonophobia in Germany as many Gerries can't get over their inferiority complex but in many cases the problem is not Polonophobia but cultural differences, in short words Poles follow the logic, Gerries follow the rules even If they offend human intellectual potential.
miranda  
18 Feb 2009 /  #55
in many cases the problem is not Polonophobia but cultural differences,

that makes more sense
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
18 Feb 2009 /  #56
There's definately some Polonophobia in Germany as many Gerries can't get over their inferiority complex...

So....and what is the cause of the polish Germanophobia then?

in short words Poles follow the logic

Where is the logic in Rokita's and the Profs behavior?
Or maybe there is something like "polish logic"?
Prince  15 | 590  
18 Feb 2009 /  #57
Where is the logic in Rokita's and the Profs behavior?

It is rahter debate about Jan Rokita.

Arrest for Jan just for hanging coat in wrong place is strange and it doesn't help in our neighbourhood.

For me it was strange that Germans reacted in such way

... when they realized that Rokitas are well known ... they excused.

If this people weren't well know it would look much different.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11831  
18 Feb 2009 /  #58
That's another cause for a bad neighbourhood....putting the story wrong.
Rokita didn't get arrested for "hanging his coat in the wrong place" but for throwing a tantrum as a stewardess wanted to hang his coat into the right place where it belong.

You should try to see things objective and not always: The Pole is right...because he is polish!
Sokrates  8 | 3335  
18 Feb 2009 /  #59
That's another cause for a bad neighbourhood....putting the story wrong.
Rokita didn't get arrested for "hanging his coat in the wrong place" but for throwing a tantrum as a stewardess wanted to hang his coat into the right place where it belong.

BB but we all agree that Rokitas treatment was fully justified, read what people say, even in the plane some polish woman was urging him to GTFO.

The prof didnt do anything that would validate him being kicked out, the full story is that he asked for a newspaper, the steward vanished without a word and came back with two police officers who cuffed him.

Arrest for Jan just for hanging coat in wrong place is strange and it doesn't help in our neighbourhood.

He didnt get arrested for hanging his coat but for screaming and cussing in english, he was agressive even before the police arrived, admittedly the stewardess was plain rude but Janek threw a kiddy tantrum.

Like i said we raised some mandatory fuss since he's a public person but since he is an idiot and acted like one AND gerries aint pressing charges i see no reason to change this into the next Grunwald.
wildrover  98 | 4430  
18 Feb 2009 /  #60
Sounds to me like he got his ass thrown off the plane for being an asshole , not for being Polish....

If there's anyone interested - there's that on-line game, brand new, on Rokita, just like the ones you could hit Bush with a shoe. If you lucky enough to catch him you'll hear him cry "ratunku, bija mnie Niemcy"

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