What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others?

There are pretty mixed..I personally find them prettier the whiter they are...
I've never seen a pure black beauty! :(


Because you confuse "aryan" with "nordic"!
You can have brown hair, light skin and blue eyes and be "aryan" too...
There are 3 to 6 sub groups to the germanic race, nordic being only one of them!

What about the horse Black Beauty? Quite nice

Read my post above, I separated Nordic from Aryan BB. You stand corrected.

Yeah...black horses are beautiful! :)

Yeah, let's just say that Aryan was Hitler's concept. The less it is mentioned, the better. Racial purity is just irritating.

Well...what for the Germanics was the "Aryan concept" is for some on this board "Slavija"...they are brothers in mind!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race

The Slavs are such a divided unit tho. Any Slavic Pact would fall apart in an instant due to corruption, distrust and suspicion. It would be destined to fail.

Not even her?
daylife.com/photo/08K8bT8e7786k

I wouldn't call her a beauty but even so...lotsa white in her!

It must be the company she keeps....

I doubt you will find any "pure" blacks in today's USA...most will be heavily mixed by now.

Thanks to Thomas Jefferson and his jungle fever.

Nearly everyone is mixed in the US. What is this obsession with purity? If it does exist, most likely it's in Asia. Not in Europe or the US. Maybe a bit in Europe, but not the way Europeans like to pretend [/i]oh look at me I'm a pure German I am so much better than you[i]

that's mostly a myth.

???

The Jews seem kind of interested in it.

They are actually quite proud of not mixing and assimilating for 2000 years in the
diaspora...

That is SUCH a fallacy. Many Europeans are mixed with jewish.

Many people of jewish decent converted to catholicism and married people who were catholic and not of jewish decent.

Holy Christ.. I'm avoiding this one!

And that is why many of you have jewish ancestors.

???


Do you have a statistic about that? Please show us...
As far as I know the Jews in German numbered even at their height under a million (900.000 - and that even included those who only had 1 jewish grandparent!) to nearly 80 Million Germans...and what do you think Ghettos and Stetl's were for?

Germany once had a small colony in what is now Namibia...some blacks made it to Germany...does that mean that most Germans have now black ancestors???

Over thousands of years this has happened. Catholic church wanted everyone to be catholic and tried converting. That's what the Crusades were all about. Many jews in Europe converted to catholicism and married Europeans who were not jewish. Where do you think you get catholicism? It's from Jerusalem. All of Europe has a jewish influence that some of you deny why I don't know. WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR ISSUE??????

Obligated to fight for Poland? Obligated to ensuring a free post-war Poland? Or neither?


That being the case, the USA failed to fulfill their obligations to a number of people. Poland may be have left to the USSR, but spare a poor thought for the people of Indochina who were handed straight back to the French!

Well...I for one are not catholic and I can't say I'm a fan of what once spread from the ME...it was a disaster and still is IMHO.

What you just said was that many Jews intermarried and converted, meaning they assimilated. They vanished!

My source? Logic!
The Jews were most of the time a shunned, tiny part of the host nation. They lived mainly in their own worlds...
In Germany for example by far the majority lived in some few big cities only whereas most Germans lived till after the war mostly on the land.

Intermarriage was surely NOT the norm!

Nope, they didn't vanish, they became your family tree, dude. Like, your ancestors.

You are talking about the ones who didn't choose to convert. The ones who did convert did intermarry. Your family must have been catholic at some point since you are Euro. Do you know anything about Euro history, dude? Seeriously. Most Euros at one time were catholic before the reformation. There have been jews in Europe for thousands of years, since, like Roman Empire times, dude. HELLO!!!!

Why do you want that so much? Are you a mixed Jew?

But I'm sorry to disappoint you, most Germans, most Europeans have no jewish ancestors! Their numbers were always just to few and the political environment was seldom friendly or accepting to intermingling, they were most of the time isolated, hated and mistrustet...that is a fact!

There were of course always those Jews who gave up their religion in exchange for a chance of a better life or unable to resist the pressure on them any longer but as I said before - they assimilated into their host nation, to become German, French or Polish, not Jews anymore!


Well...my family must have been pagan at one point since I'm Euro!

Since you are closer to Rome, yeah. Rome was this place where everyone from the Mediterranian region were brought from conquered lands to serve Rome. There were people from all over. Francs, Goths, Huns, Egyptians...you name it. If they were mediterranian, they were in Rome. So, you got that. Then you got refugees fleeing conflicts going up to WHERE??? Places which are now Austria, Germany, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Serbia, Bosnia, Later they moved on up. That is why that area of Euro has so many ethnic groups. Because of the Roman Empire. And you, good sir, are the product of so many a fine persons. Congratulations!!!

Are you jewish?


Thank you!
But contrary to the aforementioned ethnic groups who are mainly Europeans and which I would proud to see in my heritage the Jews don't belong to Europe (the Egyptians neither, mind you)!

So what you are actually try to say is that most Europeans have non-european heritage! :)

I don't know exactly what you mean. Am I orthodox? No.

Pfft, you say they don't belong, but they do as much as you do. People can go where they want because you aren't some gangland mob leader running a country like the mafia, are you?????

What is so difficult to understand? Are you jewish or not?


No mam! I don't think the Egyptians belong to Europe...:):):)

But maybe that is exactly the problem with the "mixed"...nowhere really at home!

That is exactly what I am saying!!!! You have a recent heritage but you also go back to that Roman Empire thing and there was a bunch of people from the Roman Empire. See, they didn't think like you do. You, sir, are a product of recent occurances. You got the Phonecians, the Etruscans, the Carthagians, the Ptolomys, the Egyptians. You gotta remember, EGYPT was once part of the Roman Empire which is like saying it was part of EUROPE, see?

Well...you are wrong!

And Europe goes further back than the Roman Empire...germanic tribes were already roaming Europe far before them! The Celts and the Gauls also had their distinctive ways already...Europe wasn't exactly waiting for Rome!


Well...aren't we all the products of a fond hour of our parents???

Are you jewish or not?

PS: I just googled the history of the Jews in Germany:
The first tiny settlement was around 312 in Köln...my they must have been busy to become the ancestor of all Germans till now! :):):)