What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others?

What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others?

Nothing.

Like I said on the previous page, Poles generally deserve what they get.

You don't mention the cost to Germany. It wasn't as if Polish were going to go watch TV. What's that saying, "Many hands make light work". We really should not forget "France" who also was coming to our aid.

I must question if this was Britain's way of assuring that Poland and Germany did not form an alliance. Now if Germany had thought of long term ....

Yes, because an alliance between Germany and Poland was so going to happen, what with Hitler considering Poles fit only for deportation or extermination....


If only they had thought long-term! If they had formed an alliance with Poland, they could now be listening to Poles b!tch and lie about them and how they betrayed Poland. If they had formed an alliance with Britain, they could now be enjoying a Europe free of Poland and Poles.

- I said BRITISH not Romanian!
We're on the topic of: brits dying in combat on the Polish soil during WW2; and there weren't any, exactly proving my point.

Quite frankly I believe Poland fought on the wrong side...

You honestly can forget about them!
They HAD their short match with the Germans and pulled back with their tails between their legs...

warandgame.blogspot.com/2008/09/french-invasion-of-saar-september-1939.html

And they point fingers too:

I see your point. Check this link out when you get a sec. "Although often outnumbered 100 to 1, these forces refused to surrender".


ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?battle_id=28

We did get leaflets,

Interesting link...


In Germany they had the impression Poland denied any negotiations because of the british and french guarantees!
Maybe Poland should have at least tried...

Ya but just think of the ones that got hit smack in the face with the leaflets.

Ha ha, like you had a choice!

Face it, the moment Poland was invaded by Russia and Germany it was f*cked. No amount of whining and b1tching about the Brits is going to change this fact.

I wonder if Poland would have invaded Germany if Hitler had decided to start with the West? Hmmmm...

pretty amazing that Polish made it to you.

[quote]Large numbers of Polish soldiers had fled into neighboring Hungary and Rumania where they were interned. While both countries were officially allied to Germany, both had strong sympathy for the Poles. This was especially true in Hungary. Polish soldiers began to disappear from internment camps as bribable or sympathetic guards and officials pretended to look the other way. Individually and in small groups, they made their way to France and Britain. German diplomats raged at their Hungarian and Rumanian counterparts, but officials in neither country had much interest in enforcing Berlin's decrees. As a result, within months a new Polish army had begun to form in the West.

ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?battle_id=28

That is the British and Commonwealth cemetery in Lidzbark.

1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66784


a) Poland surrendered too quickly for any British land forces to reach the country.
b) Poland lost its access to the sea far too quickly for any British land forces to reach the Polish ports.
c) Poland lost of control of the sea far too quickly for any British land forces to reach the Polish airbases.
d)Your claim that no Brits died in combat in Poland shows that you are a lying b!tch.


Yet another lie from everybody's favourite Septic Tank.
Carol: I have already posted details of the first RAF bombing raids. Please stop with the lies.
And when you stop lying, start telling us exactly what Britain should have done in September 1939.


Not really. The Polish armed forces had already started running away before the German invasion started. Check the history of the country you claim to come from Carol. See when exactly they started running away.

You seem to think you know so much, Poland fought on every front and fought from start to end. Got a leaflet for me Harry?


ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?battle_id=28]

No Carol: Polish forces started running away two days before the war started.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Peking

Although it's not as if the rest of the Polish navy covered themselves with glory. The surface vessels went on a mine-laying mission which was aborted after the commander of the mine-layer ordered all the mines to be thrown over the side of the boat because he was afraid they might explode.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Gda%C5%84sk_Bay

And the submarines officially tried to engage a German attack which never came, before, with one honourable exception, doing a runner to neutral ports, where three of the four rode out the war in cushy internment.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Worek

I love how Poles (and wannabe Poles like Carol) complain about how Britain didn't do enough but somehow manage to overlook the fact that a lot of their armed forces reacted to the invasion with the three letters RUN!!!!. In fact some Poles were so brave they didn't even wait for the invasion before running away.

Poland ensured its own survival. For 123 years, it wasn't even on the map.

a) Poland was attacked by Germans and Russians, whom you later decided to fall in love (against all reason), betraying your earlier commitments to help Poland re-gaining its independence. Further you had a chance to air support the Warsaw uprising and you couldn't even do that much because your british bunch of flying bi$#$S was too scared, knowing the fact that luftwaffe was at that point almost non-existent.

b) My claim that no brits died in Poland in combat during WW2 is valid and the link you provided lists some WW1 graves and unspecified POWs, so show me THE FACTS you arrogant pompom, not links you cant even read and understand.

Yawn...

It isn't a lie, it's historical fact.

Lock the door Harry, I do not wish to be disturbed you know, LOL

Yawn indeed.


Lies. Just plain lies.


Maybe Britain should have been like the Polish navy? "Run away! Run away!"
British pilots made many missions to resupply Warsaw. As you would know if you studied something called history. But if you studied history you'd also know that more British pilots lost their lives to Soviet fire than to German fire. You'd also know that your heroes from the USA flew just a single mission to resupply Warsaw and dropped from such an altitude that 90% of the supplies fell on German controlled territory. But of course you have not a single bad word for the USA. Worried that you won't get that all-precious visa for the USA if you criticise the US? Dumb Pawelka.


No. It it not valid. It is yet another of your foul lies. I would suggest that you go and feck yourself in the arrse with a broken bottle. Each of the three cemeteries I listed contains hundreds of British/Commonwealth servicemen who died in Poland. And then there are the ones whose graves have been desecrated by your adoreable country....

Poland got some 2nd page news, always sth

B0ll0cks. Read about the RAF raids on Wilhelmshaven of 4 September 1939 and then get back to us about historical facts.

You ever wondered why pretty much every nation in Europe has either invaded or betrayed Poland? You want to know why? Go look in the mirror.

- Hitler tried to make a mutual protection pact against russia with Pilsudski, sadly Pilsudski stuck to his policy of not getting to close to either one...

Because Piłsudski stuck to his guns, he didn't like either of them. Both rogues in his eyes. Germany was the lesser of two evils.

- France never betrayed Poland. Show me one nation that you have dealt with and not screwed/betrayed/sold or back stabbed.

Always good to see a dictator who thinks he is better than other dictators.

Like you'd know...

Oh dear Juliet, you really are immensely stupid aren't you?


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_betrayal#Diplomacy

And then there is the small matter of France fighting alongside the Nazis from 1940 to 1944....


I generally do not deal with nations.

However, with that said, please name the nations which have dealt with Poland not screwed/betrayed/sold or back stabbed Poland. Lots of them, eh?

Nobody likes you and there are damn good reasons for that.

What a LAME excuse!!!! You cannot blame Poles for the occupation!!!!

Poland should have sided with those who wanted to destroy it. Interesting angle there.

As it has been pointed out, whether I agree with Harry on very many issues or not (which I generally don't, I have found on this forum), it would not have been possible for Britain to have launched some sort of attack on Germany in 1939, and as for it being necessary for Britons to die on Polish soil for Britain's declaration of war on Germany to mean anything, I simply use three letters: wtf!

France never betrayed Poland... France did what though?