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randompal  7 | 306  
10 Nov 2007 /  #31
That is what PO has pormised

you forgot get our troops home, because they have done the job asked of them
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
10 Nov 2007 /  #32
Pal, If you didn't notice then I inform you that we "joined Europe" not so long ago and If you find Holland to be such a cool country then why don't you move there ?
Daisy  3 | 1211  
10 Nov 2007 /  #33
Okay, I know this is nothing to do with the topic this thread is meant to be about, but it is relevant to some of the posts here…My Dad has Dutch friends who have moved to France, because they feel Holland is no longer a safe place to bring their children up, in particular they feel they are unable to protect their children from paedophiles
randompal  7 | 306  
10 Nov 2007 /  #34
Pal, If you didn't notice then I inform you that we "joined Europe" not so long ago and If you find Holland to be such a cool country then why don't you move there ?

just because Holland is one of my favorite places to visit doesnt mean that I have to live there. Yes I think Holland is a cool country, but I make it personal policy not to go and stay where I'm not explicitly invited to do so. Poland is my place of birth and my home of choice, thank you very much, even if I have to share that home with backwards-looking traditionalist fuddy-duddies who are scared of Tinky Winky and his furry friends

they feel Holland is no longer a safe place to bring their children up, in particular they feel they are unable to protect their children from paedophiles

pedophiles, although indeed a creepy and disguisting breed, are everywhere. In Holland they feel a little more "free" to come out of the closet so it seems like there are more of them, I have not seen any credible evidence to suggest there are many more per capita than any other country

Pal, If you didn't notice then I inform you that we "joined Europe" not so long ago and If you find Holland to be such a cool country then why don't you move there ?

or to stay on topic I could have said "we voted PO so we wouldn't have to move to Holland" hahaha
Daisy  3 | 1211  
10 Nov 2007 /  #35
I have not seen any credible evidence to suggest there are many more per capita than any other country

it's not because there are more of them that they left, it's because the laws in Holland make it harder to protect children from them
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
10 Nov 2007 /  #36
Honestly our liberals in Holland would be conservatives ...

as to political climate in Poland :

I feel that the most important issue now is money, Poles want more money, more comfortable life, stronger economy etc.

I think discussions about abortion, church, history, homosexuals exist but defiantely economy is main issue now.
randompal  7 | 306  
10 Nov 2007 /  #37
bizarre, first I've heard of it. if I ever have kids I'll make sure to keep them on a short leash when visiting the Netherlands, thanks 4 the heads up!
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
10 Nov 2007 /  #38
it's not because there are more of them that they left, it's because the laws in Holland make it harder to protect children from them

I dont think that events like EURO PRIDE in 2010 will change Poland into pedophiles paradise ...
miranda  
10 Nov 2007 /  #39
I feel that the most important issue now is money, Poles want more money, more comfortable life, stronger economy etc.

Absolutely agree. If people are happier finacially they would pay less attention to social issues such as abortion etc, eventhough those issues are important, they cannot overshadow the importance of a healthy economy.
randompal  7 | 306  
10 Nov 2007 /  #40
they cannot overshadow the importance of a healthy economy

i agree that is prioroty number one...employment, wages, and a decent highway or two
Daisy  3 | 1211  
10 Nov 2007 /  #41
I dont think that events like EURO PRIDE in 2010 will change Poland into pedophiles paradise ...

I never said that it would, I was talking about a Dutch families experience in Holland, the age of consent is something like 13, the laws are so liberal it makes it easier for paedophiles to prey on children. I never mentioned homosexuals, that has nothing to do with it. I was just commenting on one dutch families experience that has made them move to another country to live
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
10 Nov 2007 /  #42
Absolutely agree. If people are happier finacially they would pay less attention to social issues such as abortion etc, eventhough those issues are important, they cannot overshadow the importance of a healthy economy.

i agree that is prioroty number one...employment, wages, and a decent highway or two

now we have to wait for first actions of new gov. :)

never said that it would, I was talking about a Dutch families experience in Holland, the age of consent is something like 13, the laws are so liberal it makes it easier for paedophiles to prey on children. I never mentioned homosexuals, that has nothing to do with it. I was just commenting on one dutch families experience that has made them move to another country to live

I have been to Amesterdam and I think that it would be hard to live there for longer time ... ;)
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
10 Nov 2007 /  #43
because they feel Holland is no longer a safe place to bring their children up, in particular they feel they are unable to protect their children from paedophiles

The result of "progressivness"...

events like EURO PRIDE in 2010

Are you going to parade ?
_Sofi_  
10 Nov 2007 /  #44
The result of "progressivness"...

I don't think so.
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
10 Nov 2007 /  #45
Are you going to parade ?

Honestly rather not but I support this way of showing point of view ...
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
10 Nov 2007 /  #46
but I support this way of showing point of view ...

And what point of view are they going to show ?
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
10 Nov 2007 /  #47
I dont care ...

We will see in 2010
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
10 Nov 2007 /  #48
I dont care

Really ? It doesn't look like that.
randompal  7 | 306  
10 Nov 2007 /  #49
And what point of view are they going to show ?

their asscheeks haha
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
10 Nov 2007 /  #50
Really ? It doesn't look like that.

It looks like accusation ... :)

Honestly I think that we should be more including society, not excluding. When I see far-right "parades" and parades organisated by homosexulas. I know which side has my support. What is important both sides have the law to show they point of view ...

And what point of view are they going to show ?

nothing new ...


lesser  4 | 1311  
10 Nov 2007 /  #51
randompal,

The only political party in Poland that I know would allow drugs is UPR. Personally I disagree with them about this issue however if you care about it so much, above everything, you know for which party you should vote :)

Quoting: Grzegorz_
The result of "progressivness"...

I don't think so.

So how could you explain quote below?

I was talking about a Dutch families experience in Holland, the age of consent is something like 13, the laws are so liberal it makes it easier for paedophiles to prey on children.

randompal  7 | 306  
13 Nov 2007 /  #52
So how could you explain quote below?

An age of consent of 13 is strange, first time ive heard of anything like that in Europe, but what the hell. Dont tell me Holland isnt a democracy, if they dont like it they can vote for a higher age of consent. Holland has had lots of critics for a long time, mainly stuffy conservatves who shock too easily.

oops looks like the age of consent in the Netherlands is 16 (just like many other countries) proving once again that internet forums are full of poeple no kmnowing what they are talking about - better do your homework next time instead of listening to hwtaever propaganda the LPR begins spouting forth haha
lesser  4 | 1311  
13 Nov 2007 /  #53
It was not myself who claimed so, if you read this thread carefully. About democracy in Netherlands we will see whether their government organize referendum. If they will adopt EU treaty without approval of Dutch voters whom rejected it before then indeed they are not democracy. (like all other EU countries) This would be a pure fact, not just their empty slogans. I see people for what they are doing not saying.
celinski  31 | 1258  
14 Nov 2007 /  #54
I liked the way the present President stood up to Russia and was making the ones that killed so many accountable for their actions. I was born in the USA but my father was in eastern Poland and sent to Siberia. My Grandfather started fighting when he was 15 years old and in the end after Anders Army in WWll he lost his country. I pray the new powers continue to demand respect.

To speak to what USA feels toward Polish, hard workers, stand up for themselves, always helping other countries. Hopefully I will come visit and see the beauty of Poland soon.
randompal  7 | 306  
14 Nov 2007 /  #55
I liked the way the present President stood up to Russia

any president can huff and puff and stick out his chest and try to demand respect, but with the high (and rising) price of oil and natural gas Russia could care less what anyone says about Katyn, Siberia or anything related...
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
14 Nov 2007 /  #56
fortunately we are going to buy gas form Norway ... :)
randompal  7 | 306  
14 Nov 2007 /  #57
unfortunately Norway does not have enough oil and gas to go around, and the Norwegians charge top dollar for it. Hope I'm wrong!
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
14 Nov 2007 /  #58
Yes you are ;)

PGNIG (Polish company) just bought gas deposit on North Sea ... so we are the owner
randompal  7 | 306  
14 Nov 2007 /  #59
so why does my gas bill keep going up?

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