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Eat fish you idiot! (EU massive media campaign in Poland)


lesser  4 | 1311  
20 Sep 2008 /  #1
I'm really tired with the EU massive media campaign telling us to eat fish... I used to listen to radio stations at work but slowly I'm losing my nerve because every five minute they molesting me with their fish. I don't really watch TV, however already noticed TV adverts as well. Those EU-bureaucrats again wasting millions of taxpayers cash and what is more treat people like mentally retarded.

Anyway what is the sense of such action in a country where local Catholic church established long time ago such tradition to not eat meat in Fridays. Plenty of people eat fish instead.

I must write that this campaign is supposed to be the EU help to fishery. I ask how many people here did not heard that EU regulations ruining Polish (and not only Polish) fishery? Iceland even resigned from membership only to escape from EU bureaucracy controlling fishery.

This is clearly disgusting propaganda which have nothing to do with the EU role in this industry. People are targeted from all directions how great and helpful EU-bureaucrats are but they never provide any details. What is irritating, this farce is sponsored by European taxpayers.

I'm just curious whether this campaign is run in other member states or Poland is so very special...
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
20 Sep 2008 /  #2
I'm just curious whether this campaign is run in other member states or Poland is so very special..

Haven't heard it here in Scotland where fishing used to be a big employer. The Scottish fishing fleet has halved in the last 15 years due to EU restrictions.

Scotland has 8.6% of the UKs population but lands 60% of the UKs fish.

The "Five a Day " slogan is relentless here. Telling you to eat five portions of fruit or vegetables a day to stay healthy.
OP lesser  4 | 1311  
20 Sep 2008 /  #3
Thanks for answer, you also remind me that in their previous campaign the Poles were told to eat mandarine... Insanity!
JohnP  - | 210  
20 Sep 2008 /  #4
While it doesn't specifically apply to me as an American, we get the after effects (we import some fish etc. from the EU) bureaucracy is seldom a good thing.

I don't like it, and wouldn't like it here, either.

I do have a few friends over there, but I'd not heard about this campaign from them.

John P.
Sasha  2 | 1083  
20 Sep 2008 /  #5
I don't really mind eating fish. :) My theory is that meat reduction in your daily diet makes you kinder. Ha... I know it's a corner stone of Poles' and Ruses' malice.

UPD:
Jonh, one of things I like in the US is that you have really cheap fish in comparison to Moscow prices. While in the US I often keep salmon-diet.
Shawn_H  
20 Sep 2008 /  #6
I don't really mind eating fish.

I would prefer a steak, or a pork chop. But fish is good for you, so I put up with fish.
JohnP  - | 210  
20 Sep 2008 /  #7
Sasha,
Funny you mention that.
What fish are your favorites in Russia (I'm sure we have some of the same kinds of fish as there, or at least similar)

I saved and saved, and for my honeymoon went on a cruise to Alaska (with my wife, obviously) and she almost wouldn't eat with me I took such a liking to the stuff. I liked the hot smoked salmon better than the squishy cold-smoked lox version. She does not like fish, but will gladly eat things I'm not keen on (menudo, for instance....yeccchhh....she is of Mexican descent and grew up with it)

I probably reeked of fish. I still love good salmon.
I used to catch wild perch, sunfish, and trout as a boy, and still quite enjoy those as well.
Never been big on shellfish though. Just plain, regular fish.

John P.
OP lesser  4 | 1311  
20 Sep 2008 /  #8
I also don't mind eating fish, this is not the point. How did you start eating fish without help from EU bureaucracy?

Salmon in Poland is expensive as well, import barriers working very well but that is something that the EU doesn't care.
Shawn_H  
20 Sep 2008 /  #9
How did you start eating fish without help from EU bureaucracy?

Canada publishes a food guide that recommends the following:

Eat at least two Food Guide Servings of fish each week. *
Choose fish such as char, herring, mackerel, salmon, sardines and trout.

hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/order-commander/eating_well_bien_manger-eng.php#1
osiol  55 | 3921  
20 Sep 2008 /  #10
The only person telling me to eat fish is me.
I eat fish because I like eating fish, particularly salmon, trout, haddock, herring, mackerell, sea bass and Dover sole. Not all at the same time though.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
20 Sep 2008 /  #11
I'm really tired with the EU massive media campaign telling us to eat fish...

Yep...

Anyway isn't EU as a whole rather net importer of fish ? I'm too lazy to check that but I would be very surprised If Poland had positive balance in foreign trade of these things... I see here Panga and other exotic kinds more often than local fish. So of course the whole idea of advertising (for public money) eating more fish is idiotic but a fact that If anything It may only make people eat more of Asian Panga makes It totally moronic.
osiol  55 | 3921  
20 Sep 2008 /  #12
Herring - cheap and delicious (and local).

Patagonian Tooth Fish - sea bass imported from Chile.
Crow  154 | 9297  
20 Sep 2008 /  #13
I'm really tired with the EU massive media campaign telling us to eat fish...

hm

fish is mute. Could it be that... you know what i mean...
southern  73 | 7059  
20 Sep 2008 /  #14
Eat fish you idiot!

If you eat a lot of fish you may vote for Tusk.
Crow  154 | 9297  
20 Sep 2008 /  #15
that`s the good one
OP lesser  4 | 1311  
21 Sep 2008 /  #16
Canada publishes a food guide that recommends the following:

Yeah, Canada have bad socialist reputation. If they do it in the internet only then at least cost is lesser.

Anyway isn't EU as a whole rather net importer of fish ? I'm too lazy to check that but I would be very surprised If Poland had positive balance in foreign trade of these things... I see here Panga and other exotic kinds more often than local fish. So of course the whole idea of advertising (for public money) eating more fish is idiotic but a fact that If anything It may only make people eat more of Asian Panga makes It totally moronic.

In the EU there is hardly any logic. Most likely bureaucrats don't waste an opportunity to accept bribes from Asians.
JustysiaS  13 | 2235  
21 Sep 2008 /  #17
I think all those campaigns are really patronising. If someone doesn't like fish or fruit they will not eat them, no matter how many times they hear it on the radio or see it on tv. Plus i wouldn't trust everything they say that is good for us, its like when they used to say we need to drink so much water a day to stay healthy and slim. Well guess what, too much water is very bad for you. Some woman here in UK went on this 2.5 litres of water a day diet just to end up being brain damaged, she collapsed cos it flushed out minerals from her body or something. I mean i can't drink that much cos i'm just gonna keep running to the loo lol. I think people should eat what they want to eat and don't let anyone dictate them their diet unless their lives depend on it (like when ur diabetic or allergic to something). It is true that it's a waste of taxpayers money.

It's quite scary how the goverments want to control our lives so much, and it's not just the food. On friday we had this road sensors thing where some volunteers accompanied by the police were stopping cars in the rush hour (!) to hand them bits of paper where you had to fill in why you were on that road at the time, what time did you leave, how many people were in the car, how much income does your household make etc. WHY?! If they had to do it, why can't they send a survey thru post. Thousands of people were late for work in the morning, and they did the same thing in the afternoon (yes the rush hour as well when everyone's coming back home). My bus was 40 minutes late, i was SO ANGRY!!!!!
osiol  55 | 3921  
21 Sep 2008 /  #18
I don't see the point of the EU spending money on telling everyone to eat fish, but I believe that eating fish is a good idea.

ALL OF YOU, EAT MORE FISH, BECAUSE I TOLD YOU TO.
Sasha  2 | 1083  
21 Sep 2008 /  #19
What fish are your favorites in Russia (I'm sure we have some of the same kinds of fish as there, or at least similar)

I'm afraid I can't tell you any certain sort of fish. I like what we call "white fish" (huso, sterlet, sturgeon etc.), "red fish" (all kinds of salmon: siberian, atlantic, coho...), river fish like crucian carp, carp, pike, asp, roach etc. Generally it strongly depends on who cooked the fish. If you know how to cook it even some plain fish may be delicious.

I would prefer a steak, or a pork chop.

Yummy. :) I like it too. I'm just a follower of well-balanced diet. One day for meat other for fish.
Wahldo  
22 Sep 2008 /  #20
crucian carp, carp, pike, asp, roach etc

Wheew, you guys really eat those? You'd have to be pretty hungry to eat a carp or pike. No offense. I don't even know how you'd cook it. Pike's just a game fish in America. Maybe they're good if they're filleted right.
Sasha  2 | 1083  
22 Sep 2008 /  #21
Wheew, you guys really eat those?

Really. :) Young crucian carp fried in breading is one of my favourites. Carp and pike (here may be some misunderstanding... cause "pike" as well as word "salmon" are collective in english whereas in russian we differentiate it having absolutely different words for different kinds of salmon/pike) are things you may easily find in restaurants. As for pike I've tried it for couple times and I can't say I liked it.

There's surely no offence. People are different, cultures are different... in some asian (chinese, thai) restaurants I feel like throwing up and I don't understand either how americans may eat their french fries, burgers, donuts... They should be very hungry. :)

Anyway to further shock you I'll list some plants Russians have eaten (especially in villages in hungry times when one still needs vitamines having nothing but a little bread and water): dandelion (there's also a jam made out of it), bittercress, wormwood, cow-parsnip, nettle (this one I've tried and find it tasty in spring when it's young), oxalis. And I don't think that one living in a big city, driving a car should forget about the initial closeness of the human and the nature. I like spending weekend in my country house gathering mushrooms, wild berries, I like the fact that I know more than 30 sorts of mushrooms that are much better than shop's champignons and I'm able to distinguish eatable from the poisonous one and I'm going to share these knowledge with my kids one day. At the same time it's beyond my comprehension how for example some americans are convinced that watermelon grows sliced in pieces wrapped in plastic bags somewhere near "Fred Meyer" that there're no more eatable mushrooms except for champignons etc. This snobbish ignorance is far more awful than eating pike or carp. I don't mean you Wahldo, I'm pretty sure you're aware of everything I mentioned.
z_darius  14 | 3960  
22 Sep 2008 /  #23
I'm really tired with the EU massive media campaign telling us to eat fish...

I must write that this campaign is supposed to be the EU help to fishery.

This is clearly disgusting propaganda which have nothing to do with the EU role in this industry. People are targeted from all directions how great and helpful EU-bureaucrats are but they never provide any details. What is irritating, this farce is sponsored by European taxpayers.

I think you're looking for a problem where there isn't one.

In the 70's, long before even the bravest minds would dream about Poland in EU, Polish ministries of health and education distributed free bookmarks distributed to all kids. The Bookmarks had a picture if fish on it and the writing said:

"Masz klopoty z matematyka?
Jedz ryby!"

"Problems with math?
Eat fish!"

Poland wasn't any less catholic then, than it is now.
ParisJazz  - | 172  
22 Sep 2008 /  #24
I like eating fish, particularly salmon, trout, haddock, herring, mackerell, sea bass and Dover sole.

You lot have no taste. All of this northern crap ain't no fish.

Nothing compares to a Dorade Royale, cooked to perfection with a drizzle of extra virgin 0live oil, parsley, thyme and rosemary sprigs.

Served on a bed of [you pick], at your table, as it would be, while you are enjoying a gentle mediterranean breeze and a glass of Chablis, by the sea, in St Tropez.

If those EU bureaucrats can give me that, I will be eating fish everyday until I die.

PJ
Shawn_H  
22 Sep 2008 /  #25
If they do it in the internet only then at least cost is lesser.

They teach the kids in school, and it is available in other locations as well.

The intention is good: more people eat healthy food = lower medical bills for the population as a whole.
OP lesser  4 | 1311  
22 Sep 2008 /  #26
On friday we had this road sensors thing where some volunteers accompanied by the police were stopping cars in the rush hour (!) to hand them bits of paper where you had to fill in why you were on that road at the time, what time did you leave, how many people were in the car, how much income does your household make etc. WHY?!

"Everything for the State; nothing outside the State; nothing against the State,"Benito Mussolini

I like spending weekend in my country house gathering mushrooms

A lot of people in Poland have such hobby, me included.

I think you're looking for a problem where there isn't one.

In the 70's, long before even the bravest minds would dream about Poland in EU, Polish ministries of health and education distributed free bookmarks distributed to all kids. The Bookmarks had a picture if fish on it and the writing said:

I care less what was practiced in the past. As a taxpayer I demand lower taxes and wise spending.

If you wanted to proof that bureaucracy in communist Poland was much smaller, indeed this is true, statistics don't lie.

If you wanted to proof that commies wasted less taxpayer money on the same cause then indeed this is true.
Daisy  3 | 1211  
22 Sep 2008 /  #27
lower medical bills for the population as a whole.

What if they choke on a fish bone, who pays the medical bill then?
OP lesser  4 | 1311  
22 Sep 2008 /  #28
The intention is good:

Some say that hell is paved with good intentions.
Crow  154 | 9297  
22 Sep 2008 /  #29
This is clearly disgusting propaganda which have nothing to do with the EU role in this industry.

i sense that EU tend to control everything. It`s not nice i telling to you. Its not according to Slavic spirituality. It won`t be good, no good at all

Yugoslavia was bater. Mother is always bater
Shawn_H  
22 Sep 2008 /  #30
who pays the medical bill then?

Hopefully the guy dies and then there will be no other medical bills (other than the doctor declaring him dead...)

Some say that hell is paved with good intentions.

And having no intentions leads to nothing at all.

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