BNP far right in Poland

Arien is on drugs as usual.

No he isn't, lesser. I know Eichmann and others were whisked off to Argentina under pseudonyms before the Mossad got hold of them. The Vatican has skeletons in the closet and Leo Zagami will tell you about them. The Ustashe (Croatian Nazis) were funded by the Vatican. Ask Crow, I think he'll back me up on that.

Hilter was an ex-Catholic

Benedict was indeed a member of the Hitlerjugend, because it was compulsory, and he showed no enthusiasm for it.

He received Bishop Williamson into the Church who had been an outspoken holocaust denier

The Vatican did not help hundreds of Nazis escape. The Church (or various priests therein) helped thousands of Nazis escape.

Oh am I? Have you ever heard of the Ratline? Odessa? Do I have to post links to official documents? Or a nice Youtube video taken from History Channel perhaps? Do I really have to post links to news articles? Do I really have to explain the obvious?

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I'm afraid you are.


Read Mein Kampf, and you'll see he never gave up his belief in a creator, a God. So the claim that he was an atheïst isn't exactly what I would call substantial.


So he says. I guess we'll have to believe him on his word? He obviously had no problems with welcoming another Nazi into the Church.. Mr. Williamson.


Figure of speech, but you're right ofcourse.

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What do you think about this article? 97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=30714

Would lesser be surprised that the Vatican is working with radical Islamic groups? He shouldn't be as it's true.

Vatican is not responsible for individual actions of some minor part of Catholic clergy. Neither Benedict XVI is to blame for being forced to HitlerJugend as a child. Benedict did not appoint Bishop Williamson, neither the second denied Holocaust. Arien is simply a disgusting person who like to slander innocent people.


What do you mean by radical islamists? What do you mean by Vatican working with them? Seanus, do you always must buy every conspiracy theory?

Yeah, keep repeating that, and you might believe it one day. The truth is, that your beloved Church slanders people, and calls them either disgusting, evil, sick, crazy or just plain wrong, simply because an anonymous author told them so a few thousand years ago.

I'm not slandering. I'm just stating the obvious.


Let's just say that I hope he'll find out the truth for himself some day..

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Bishop Williamson, loathesome though he is, isn't a Nazi, just a fool.

Just a fool who denies the Holocaust, so that's why I doubt that he isn't.

The church overall was always opposed to National Socialist movement but why to mention it. Naturally anti-Catholic internet brigade will always bring into the light those few who betrayed their supposed beliefs. Very selective is your memory. However Polish people here wont be fooled by this BS.


I personally do not find him a reasonable person, either politically or historically.

However for Arien 'Nazi' is just a slur without any precise meaning. The only intention is to offend for fun. Absolutely disgusting person.

If that offends you, then I'm sorry you're such a sensitive fellow. However, I don't believe you are truly offended, and you're merely taking everything I say out of context, because no one is allowed to question your Church right? No, only Catholics have the right to judge other people. (Read: Slander!) Now, you can choose to twist some bold statements I've made in the past untill it fits somewhere in your accusations, but being opportunistic doesn't change the heart of the matter.. Nor does it change the facts.

I do that for fun? Solely to offend? Excuse me, but have you any idea how many times Catholics offend other people with their judgements and their verdicts? You not only have moral authority, but you can read my mind aswell?

Impressive!

Whatever you do, just don't speak for someone else, leave that to the fascists. Oh, and it's not just a slur to me, nor do I take the word lightly. Read the above. Denying the Holocaust is something a Nazi would do. You find me disgusting? I find people who deny the Holocaust disgusting.

Enjoy your day, and have fun demonizing me.

Its a civil parternship, not marriage...I was talking about legal rights. Read my post.


Give Poland a few years and more 3rd world immigration and you too will have the same problems.

Sorry buddy, Williamson never even hinted that he's following or even remotely symphathetic to the Nazi ideology.

It's not a conspiracy theory, lesser. The Vatican has had dealings with radical Islam in the past and likely does in the present.

Ever heard of vicarious liability, lesser? The RCC has sth akin to the political whip system in that its members represent it and their actions speak volumes. There will always be outliers but they have to be kept on the straight and narrow. Many clergymen were in on it, lesser.

All politicians and religious leaders are manipulative, self serving control freaks that should be brought to account,,,, Power to the people (at least to those who can string words into sentences)

Such self interest is typical of a fair few Brits. Jack Straw, for example, is a third generation immigrant and thus oversympathises due to personal circumstances. He doesn't see how mass immigration adversely impacts on resources.

Caps are a legitimate and viable option.

No, he just denies the Holocaust, and he calls Jewish people the enemies of Christ.

The man is unfortunately crazy. But his favourite uniform involves lace rather than jackboots.

Yep, and neither of those makes him Nazi, in fact the guy despite being controversial and politically incorrect is a good Catholic and never preached hate or prejudice against any group.

He believes Jews are the enemies of the Christ and aim for world domination and wants them to ... convert to Catholicism. While ceirtanly controversial thats hardly a malevolent and hateful rhetoric.

Compare that to Hitler or Himmler and reflect upon your idiotic statement.

Although I think it's disingenuous to deny the Holocaust, Desiderata teaches us that others too have their position and it'd be interesting to hear the likes of Ahmedinejad attempt to justify his position that it was fabricated.

In all likelihood, he'd not convince anyone but himself.

Yes we have Nick Griffin, a lower level politician who will never reach power, quoted as saying that he does not believe in the holocaust. Iran has Ahmedinejad talking about wiping another nation of the map and he is the LEADER of that nation!!!

If you ask me the second is a lot worse than the first, just look at the position and responsibilities of each, not to mention that one is talking about history and the other is talking about the potential (Intended) future!!!

The point was not made at you Seanus, just to those who are ranting about what Nick Griffin said, what does it really matter when you stand it up against what Ahmedinejad said!!!!

Does not believing in the holocaust makes him a worse leader? Where does he talk about wiping out the whole nation?

Interestingly why dont you condemn Israel which does the talking and the whipinhg but are quick to jump on Irans head of state? Double standards perhaps?

With Ahmedinajad, it seems to be a case of "the lady doth protest too much". He himself was born to Jewish parents, and has been attacked by election opponents about this. He is trying to prove something.

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6256173/Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-revealed-to-have-Jewish-past.html

i think i was referring to the Nick Griffin/Ahmadinejad debate and not 'actually' about the two topics 'Isreal/Holocaust' We can get to the ins and outs if you like just not at 1 50 am lol.

As an admitted Polish Fascist you should know all about that.


Your Polish fascist loudmouth still seems tightly zipped when it comes to finding any link to my lies about Poles running concentration camps in WWII?

Should be simple if its true?

Wow, you sure are constructing your strawmen early this time. What was I saying about you being unable to argue with what I actually say?


Guess you don't read Wprost. Nice to know that you admit you don't know about some of the racist groups which found a home in SO.


Slander? It might have been: if I'd actually said anything about the good professor. Do feel free to keep arguing against what I didn't say and ignoring what I did say.


OK, let's say, for the sake of debate, that we should forgive Rekas for his teenage mistakes. So what about 2005? Was he still a teenager when he commented on the Jewish complaints that the synagogue in Chelm had been turned into an American style saloon bar, saying Until the building was renovated and generating income, the Jews didn’t care if it was going to collapse. But the thought of someone else making money on it became unbearable.”?


Can you perhaps point out some of the lies which I posted? Right now you seem to be rather unhappy either that I know more about the darker side of Polish politics than you do or that I will not keep quiet about the darker side of Polish politics like you do.


Unfortunately, unlike you I don't spend time on sites where racists discuss race-hate and race-baiting, so I have no idea what the Blood and Honor website is or what it looks like.

so, for us foreigners what`is the political platform of the bnp?

Simple. To get You foreigners out of Our country—Blacks, Asians, Jews, Gypsies, Poles and other untermenschen !

So, you get where they are coming from :-)

He doesn't preach hate and prejudice? Think again. He calls Jewish people the enemies of Christ. You're naive if you believe that this is harmless. Do you honestly think that convinced Catholics who listen to Bishop Williamson will be more likely to accept Jewish people for who they are? No, they won't. Because in Mr. Williamson's world, they will have to convert and completely renounce their ways, otherwise they'll be wrong, and enemies of his Church.


Maybe he doesn't inspire such emotions in you, but if you can't see how labelling a group of people as the enemies of Christ may cause intolerance and hatred towards that group, then let's just say that you and me don't really understand eachother.


Less idiotic than the above two statements. I don't defend this mad man, or slandering of people who happen to have different beliefs. Keep in mind that I'm convinced that no one knows the absolute truth. Not the Jewish, not the Catholics, not the Muslims, not the Protestants, and not the Atheïsts..

You can call me an idiot all you want, but it's obvious that Nazi's have had massive support from within the Catholic Church. It's no secret most extreme right winged movements share similar vieuws when it comes to the Holocaust, or Jewish people? Unlike you, I see much harm in Bishops and Priests who try to convince their followers that the Jewish people are the enemies of Christ.

Look at World War II? It all started with pointing out the differences, followed by wild accusations, slandering, isolation, demonization, dehumanization, discrimination and eventually it all ended in the persecution and murder of people who were different.. A few fools who spouted rubbish?

I think I could tell you to reflect upon your naive statements aswell.