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Why so many bad candidates for Poland Prime Minister?


truhlei  10 | 332  
27 Sep 2007 /  #31
I really think that the Church don't have to "work" in politics

To be Christian in Church and different in politics? That is your idea? Something like alter ego.

visit Poland esp big towns ...

What will happen if I visit Holland? Sex museums visited by children. If majority there is for that should I respect the practice?
Polson  5 | 1767  
27 Sep 2007 /  #32
To be Christian in Church and different in politics?

No, i mean i don't care if Lech and Jaro are Christian !! I really don't care, but when they take decisions, it would be great to put their beliefs aside, and think like normal people ! An exemple : a woman who has been raped, got pregnant...tell her that Mister Kaczki thinks it's better not to allow abortion in her case....
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
27 Sep 2007 /  #33
Are we talking about the same Kaczynski that makes Poland a laughable country for other countries ?

Oh sure. He makes Poland a laughable country when Europe is full of so "serious" countries like Russian run by KGB, Germany where Schroeder became (now offically) a ***** of Putin, Italy where the whole areas are controled by mafia, Belgium which can't form a government, Holland where pedophils are creating their own party, Sweden with their disscussions If men should sit down when they **** or France where fat of the president is removed on the picture to make him look better in the media. I preffer to live in a "laughable" country and you mind your own business.
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
27 Sep 2007 /  #34
An exemple : a woman who has been raped, got pregnant...tell her that Mister Kaczki thinks it's better not to allow abortion in her case....

In this case he is for, in this case abortion in Poland is legal. And some MPs (Marek Jurek was their leader) have left PiS because they wanted to stop it and Jarek had different opinion.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
27 Sep 2007 /  #35
No, i mean i don't care if Lech and Jaro are Christian !!

But their voters care and that's what matters.
truhlei  10 | 332  
27 Sep 2007 /  #36
but when they take decisions, it would be great to put their beliefs aside, and think like normal people !

Read words you just wrote:
Aren't Christians normal people. Who created Poland? Who saved it during centuries?
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
27 Sep 2007 /  #37
ok I m going to the pub ;))) see you later ;)

sdadawd
truhlei  10 | 332  
27 Sep 2007 /  #38
Oh sure. He makes Poland a laughable country when Europe is full of so "serious" countries like Russian run by KGB, Germany where Schroeder became (now offically) a ***** of Putin, Italy where the whole areas are controled by mafia, Belgium which can't form a government, Holland where pedophils are creating their own party, Sweden with their disscussions If men should sit down when they **** or France where fat of the president is removed on the picture to make him look better in the media. I preffer to live in a "laughable" country and you mind your own business.

A good notice!!!
But good politicians should be very clever if they are among such people. As to twins they are unexperienced. Some crazy ideas occure to Jaro. Polish influence in dependence of people murdered 65 years ago. The rejection of OSCE visitors during elections.
Polson  5 | 1767  
27 Sep 2007 /  #39
Aren't Christians normal people. Who created Poland? Who saved it during centuries?

And so what ? Sure Christians are normal people, as everybody is ! But there are things to consider : your beliefs, and your life
Answer me, what would you tell to the pregnant girl (who has been raped) ? Would you tell her that the president is right not to allow her abortion ? She is the person who suffers from the stupidy of some of these "ancien" decision ! We're not in Middle Ages anymore, move on people !
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
27 Sep 2007 /  #40
Answer me, what would you tell to the pregnant girl (who has been raped) ? Would you tell her that the president is right not to allow her abortion ?

Abortion in case of rape is legal in Poland and twins don't want to change that.
Polson  5 | 1767  
27 Sep 2007 /  #41
Are you sure of that ?...didn't they want to make abortion totally illegal ? And about the death penalty ? They say they want to protect life from it's beginning but at the same time, they want to make the death penalty legal...wow...gotta dudes ;) i'll get back later ;)
truhlei  10 | 332  
27 Sep 2007 /  #42
Answer me, what would you tell to the pregnant girl (who has been raped) ? Would you tell her that the president is right not to allow her abortion ? She is the person who suffers from the stupidy of some of these "ancien" decision ! We're not in Middle Ages anymore, move on people !

Does the appearance of Coca-Cola should make us reject 10 testaments?

They say they want to protect life from it's beginning

Quite logic. Nobudy will kill a man of 20 years by the reason his mother was raped.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
27 Sep 2007 /  #43
Are you sure of that ?

Yes.

They say they want to protect life from it's beginning but at the same time, they want to make the death penalty legal...wow...gotta dudes ;)

And you and most of EUnuchs are against death penalty and for abortion and euthanasia - now that's idiotic.

Quite logic.

Not for all unfortunately.
truhlei  10 | 332  
27 Sep 2007 /  #44
Why Urban isn't candidate. It seems that some of participants here are his potential voters.
Polson  5 | 1767  
27 Sep 2007 /  #45
And you and most of EUnuchs are against death penalty and for abortion and euthanasia - now that's idiotic.

No it's not ! We think for the human being, you think for God. The death penalty is not a solution to make a man realize what he has done, his crime. It's a matter of education. Kill him is too easy, he would probably never regret his crime because he is going to die.

Euthanasia and abortion are special and difficult subjects. It should be a choice for both : if a person suffers from a disease, and can't bear it anymore, wants to die, how you, the normal and healthy person can decide he or she has not the right to stop suffering ??! The same for abortion, a woman who suffers from a non desired pregnancy, she, and only she should have the right to take the best decision for her.

By the way, i was wondering : how could a man (president, minister, deputy or whatever) take a decision that not concerns him directly ? It's a women matter.

So, as i said, abortion as euthanasia should be a choice taken by the concerned persons and not by silly deputies...When we don't know what harm is, we can't take good decision on the matter.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
27 Sep 2007 /  #46
We think for the human being

Yep. You kill innocent and build hotels for murderers. To hell with such "European values".
Polson  5 | 1767  
27 Sep 2007 /  #47
You kill innocent and build hotels for murderers

We kill innocent ? Tell me who, i'll stop killing them... :p

Do you think prisons are hotels ??? Have you ever seen what a prison is like ?... O_O

PS : i'm going to eat ;)
truhlei  10 | 332  
27 Sep 2007 /  #48
The same that supports the death penalty

I'm away from Polans. I live in Russia. I have never heared Jaro supported death penalty. When did it take place and in what circumstances?

Do you think prisons are hotels ??? Have you ever seen what a prison is like ?... O_O

They aren't like hotels un EU but they require a lot of budget money. There is a double punishment for the society. First it is punished by a criminal and then by the necesity to spend money keeping him in prison.
Mala_Elf  13 | 17  
27 Sep 2007 /  #49
Who laughs at Poland? Poland is lovely.
Polson  5 | 1767  
27 Sep 2007 /  #50
I have never heared Jaro supported death penalty. When did it take place and in what circumstances?

He said that if he wins the election (of Oct. 21st), he would reconsider the death penalty in Poland, and if he does, Poland could not be in EU anymore...

They aren't like hotels un EU but they require a lot of budget money

Ok then so let's kill them all, let's get rid of these unworthy humans...

Who laughs at Poland? Poland is lovely.

LoL not me at least ;)
OP lech  
27 Sep 2007 /  #51
Unless you have discovered the fountain of youth, you're going to be old too, Polson. What do you have against old people?
Polson  5 | 1767  
27 Sep 2007 /  #52
What do you have against old people?

I like old people, but some react as if we were still in 1950.... ;)
OP lech  
27 Sep 2007 /  #53
Go Jaro !

Yeah go, Jaroslaw Kaczynski will make you go to Iraq. To hell with that!
Polson  5 | 1767  
27 Sep 2007 /  #54
How a normal today person can support this...man ?...(wondering)...
OP lech  
27 Sep 2007 /  #55
nothing ... Kashubian=Silesian=Mazowian=Polish

If kashubians are Polish why does Tusk call himself a member of a minority?
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
27 Sep 2007 /  #56
Are you sure of that ?

Yes, Grzegorz is right.

No, i mean i don't care if Lech and Jaro are Christian !! I really don't care, but when they take decisions, it would be great to put their beliefs aside, and think like normal people !

Oh I love that kind of statements. It's OK for a Christian man to engage into politics as long as he thinks as an atheist. Sounds like a clear sign of discrimination if you ask me. But lets put your argument on its head. Imagine a country where 99% of population is atheist and politicians are allowed to engage in politics only if they think like, lets say, Catholics for example? What do you think about that? Silly idea innit?

Me thinks that a lot of westerners have a strange attitude when it comes to the separation of church and state. In Poland this term means that church doesn’t interfere in the politics and in fact this is the official doctrine of Polish Catholic Church. Unfortunately there are some priests that don't obey that rule, like father Jankowski for example, but this is a topic for another interesting debate. The bottom line is, that this rule doesn’t concern lay people. If there are people that want a Christian party in the parliament, then it’s their right to vote for them. You can't forbid them to do so. You may not like it, but as far as I know its what’s democracy is all about.

Euthanasia and abortion are special and difficult subjects. It should be a choice for both : if a person suffers from a disease, and can't bear it anymore, wants to die, how you, the normal and healthy person can decide he or she has not the right to stop suffering ??!

Yes, it's certainly the case with people that suffer from a great pain. But what about paralyzed people, people in comma, etc... A lot of them have suicidal thoughts because they don't feel needed. Imagine how easy it would be just to give them a document to sign about their death during their depression.... One signature and the problem is solved. No more worries... for us of course.
Polson  5 | 1767  
27 Sep 2007 /  #57
Yes, it's certainly the case with people that suffer from a great pain. But what about paralyzed people, people in comma, etc... A lot of them have suicidal thoughts because they don't feel needed. Imagine how easy it would be just to give them a document to sign about their death during their depression.... One signature and the problem is solved. No more worries... for us of course.

That's why i said it's a difficult subject, cause we can't just give a paper to sign to this kind of person. We could let the family discuss with the concerned person, the doctors too, and maybe a psychologist...
James123  
27 Sep 2007 /  #58
How a normal today person can support this...man ?...(wondering)...

Please define how you understand normal! I support the twins in their effort to rid us of certain figures from the communists past who still hold positions of influence in Poland. Am I to understand that's not normal?

Probably the biggest dim wit and and incompetent bigot modern democracy has seen.

Absolute rubbish! Stop making outlandish statement that have nothing to do with reality!
Polson  5 | 1767  
27 Sep 2007 /  #59
They may do things not that bad sometimes (even if i don't know if it's very useful to know who did something 20 years ago), but they do many things that are not very "good", and somebody else could do what they do, or better than they ;)
truhlei  10 | 332  
27 Sep 2007 /  #60
I support the twins in their effort to rid us of certain figures from the communists past

What efficient have they done for that?

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