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Real life of a Polish (the Great Woman, or even the Humble Man) :)


LoneStranger 3 | 382  
15 Mar 2007 /  #1
The real life is simple to say the least. All kinds of people live here.

In the exterior context (physical) : Some are very beautiful (the ratio is same as in any part of the world), some are normal, some might look good enough to talk but not enough to build a relationship with, some are not that good looking.

In the interior context (the heart): Same as above :). But the internal beauty is so very often overlooked...isnt it?

We eat our usual diet (probably studied by now... so I wont describe more). We have fair development going, but we surely need alot more. We need prices to go down, income to increase.

People can be religious. But still, religious tolerance is alive in Poland (among the youths specially). We do like other races (mostly). We are a curious nation (generally).

Alcoholism is a major problem nowadays. Polish men and women drink (sometimes alot). Usually the men drink more. But some women drink too. The drinking habbit can be seen being discouraged. But it is a national habbit (bad habbit, personally I do not accept that it is a part of our culture).

Marriage is still valued. Though living together is not rare anymore (unfortunately).

The Polish Woman and Man are normal people, living normal lives. WITHOUT HAVING LONG QUES OUTSIDE FOR MARRIAGE.

I thought I write this... other (expecting Polish people, inside Poland) can elaborate on this :).

Thank you.

LoneStranger.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
15 Mar 2007 /  #2
People can be religious. But still, religious tolerance is alive in Poland (among the youths specially). We do like other races (mostly). We are a curious nation (generally).

I believe this, I think its select few who choose to not be as tolerant and this
isnt limited to Poland, I think more so outside of Poland is where tolerance stops.

Marriage is still valued. Though living together is not rare anymore (unfortunately).

Another form of Tolerance with parents and young adults wanting be on their own
learn to become independent and finding Love their own way Vs the Old ways.

I thought I write this... other (expecting Polish people, inside Poland) can elaborate on this .

OOOPS my bad my brother, I had to add my two cents, no I do not live in Poland
but I think its fair to say they are with the times as many other places, and I also
dont think the alcohol is more of a problem with Polish then anyone else.
AlySedai  
15 Mar 2007 /  #3
I'd like to visit Poland before I die. I saw a documentary about Poland online once. Looked kinda depressing...but I figured they were visiting a pretty poor place. It'd be nice to see where my family comes from.
OP LoneStranger 3 | 382  
15 Mar 2007 /  #4
Patrycja19

:) ... no problem

People outside Poland can ofcourse also write. I mentioned INSIDE Poland specially, due to having more close-up look at the real Poland. I thought that the People living here (and Polish), can give a better and more realistic view. I hope you would consider my reasoning :).

Do write. Get Real :)

AlySedai

I'll be glad to help.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
15 Mar 2007 /  #5
I mentioned INSIDE Poland specially, due to having more close-up look at the real Poland.

I agree, I would like to hear from those who live north , east , south and west.

lets hit all four directions :)

:) And thats for you , I have missed you lately :)
polishcanuck 7 | 462  
15 Mar 2007 /  #6
Marriage is still valued. Though living together is not rare anymore (unfortunately).

I think living together before getting married is an excellent idea. 50% of marriages in Canada end in divorce! Why? Because people get married too quickly - they don't spend enough time getting to know each other and then they realize they're not compatible. Then starts the stress, lawyers, ....

However, ideally you should not live together. Instead, see each other everyday or whatever but go to your home at the end of the day - or take turns spending the night at each others places:) It would probably be best it terms of determining if you're "compatible."
miranda  
15 Mar 2007 /  #7
in reality the Polish mrriage and Canadian marriage are so much apart from each other and driven by different dynamics, economy and culture that I would never compare those 2.

LS and PC - you are both right. Different countires, different values:)
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
15 Mar 2007 /  #8
However, ideally you should not live together.

As I drove to work this morning and listen to my favorite radio talk show, they said that statistically, couples who live together before they get married, divorce more often than the couples who did not. There was no explanation given for it, just numbers.

So, polishcanuck has a point there. "Trial test" is not a good idea.
Also, based on my own experience, I lived with a man, we got engaged and then...we split. Later, I married another one. Well, we got divorced later, but not due to cohabitation issues.
OP LoneStranger 3 | 382  
16 Mar 2007 /  #9
Marriage is more then only the physical relationship. So why do you have to spend nights before marriage to know if you are compatible?

You are supposed to know each other closely. Beyond the physical attention, but also spiritual, natural and lifestyle. You should know if the person can adopt to your situations, and you can on her (you should share your good points, and give up the unneccessary for compatibality's sake). The parents are never to be ignored. They should be convinced, and this I think is very important (for a couple who have raised you, cared for you, and care for you). You should be able to explain why you will not choose a MONKEY for yourself, and how your parents education and your own intellect (maturity) confirms you that your selection/love is compatible for a lifetime (and even beyond).

Living together, I have always thought, is an escape. It degrades the healthy system and important moral structure of the society. It has less to do with the parents. Its base is most often the physical, and everything material. There is confusion in this form of life, as the couple are together and apart. They have no real responsibility (only virtual).

Children find a stronger moral, and a healthier lifestyle when they grow up to respectable, united families of married parents. Their outlook to life is more vibrant and positive (generally).

Marriage is one of the true ray of the Greatest Love.
Living together is just the darkness, which is caused by the material aspects of a lusty/greedy/self-centered explanation. It has no basis.

Sayonara :),

LoneStranger.
krysia 23 | 3,057  
16 Mar 2007 /  #10
I think the same way like Lonestranger. That's how it should ideally be, not living together until you get married, until it's official and then as a reward move in togther and have fun!! (And then realize the thing doesn't fit...:) hahahahahahaha)

But with today's economy, it's sometimes more profitable and affordable to live together before signing the contract.
Tamara 9 | 202  
16 Mar 2007 /  #11
I know from personal experience that if I had lived with a certain person before marriage - the marriage would never have taken place. I fully condone it. This isn't the days when you just put up with someone because you're married to them - you can make a choice and to put this fairytale expectation to it doesn't help.
sapphire 22 | 1,241  
16 Mar 2007 /  #12
well said. I agree. Its a lovely romantic dream, but in my opinion its better to experience the reality before you sign the contract... and although one doesnt marry to have sex, if you dont try it out before how do you know if you will be compatible.. and if you arent and/or have no experience of sex beforehand..its highly likely that one of you will seek sexual liaisons outside of the marriage at some point in the future. Very sad, but i believe true.
OP LoneStranger 3 | 382  
16 Mar 2007 /  #13
And then realize the thing doesn't fit... hahahahahahaha

We have to choose wisely. Not on the basis of the material. To make it fit is our responsibility.

Before marrying, you can select the person according to you. If you select someone who is too open, too cool, too easy...etc... it may not last. You will have to be good to be able to choose someone good. Being good doesnt mean that you were untouched of everything bad...but that you have knowledge, and you know why something is wrong and why the other is right. You need to have self control, and good vision of life.

Tamara

These are the days of crumbling traditions, and rejuvination of stronger format of those traditions. If someone thinks that after autmn, there will be no spring. Then that person is short sighted.

Again, the selection must be correct. The selector must have a clean and healthy mind, a good understanding of marriage and values of family... to be able to make it successfully through marriage.

If it is true that everyone is not wise. Then it is also true that true peace dont exist in the hearts of all. So, it can be said, that it is also true that everyone will not receive true love and its symbol (marriage).

It is said that the heart is the home of God. And we need to clean our heart so that God may live in it.

God, being the Devine Light. The Source of all Love.

Love between a man and a woman is also a pure ray of the Eternal Light. How can it stay in a heart which is not compatible. And how can an incompatible heart select the eternal? In this case, the body and our 5 sences will select. These sences will select what they recognise...not what the heart and soul recognises. Isnt this logical?

sapphire

Living together before marriage does not show any reality. It is Lust...and Lust cannot compare with love. Just like a Swamp cannot compare an Ocean!

:)...my opinions... :)

LoneStranger.
larry casula 2 | 69  
16 Mar 2007 /  #14
Lone Stranger,
I read all the way throough on all the opinions of people here on marriage. Some want to "test ride" it, some want to wait. Your last post summed it up well. All the others forgot to invite God into thier thinking. You were the first to mention him by name.

I married 12 years ago. I have 2 wonderful boys and my marriage is God centered.
Listen when the glitter is gone and the babies arrive, and the quiet is gone and the fevers and puking arrive, when you are sleep depreived, and then see them grow and spank them, love them, chide them, pat them on the back, take them for thier first day of school, pray for them, let them come and sleep in your bed because they are afraid, watch them cry, fix thier wounds, wound thier spirits because you are stressed, ask them to forgive you, ...... what I have not heard other than God is committment. When you tae those vows you are commiting yourself to someone "ONE" for til death do you part, in the eyes of God, now I do not believe that in abuse this is true, but when she grows old and her beauty fads, when her breasts fall to her knees when she has your children, when she effortlessly cleans and cooks and mends your cloths...again it is committment. You see everyone is so worried if they would be compatable, well let me tell you now, it does not matter if she is a princess, or beauty model, or not as lucky as some, it is the committment you make. You will wake up next to your spouse, see them at thier best and worst, again..you will not be compatable always, there are bumps and bruises, its normal, but if you stick to committment it will work... i always think when I catch myself being selfish and thinking only about myself, what can I do for her today? My friends, you will never understand the opposite sex, if you have heard of the book, Men are from Mars and Woman are from Venus, I challenge you to read it. Marriage is about discovery, no not aout being the same, but how different you are and what can you bring to the table, not what they have...

Marriage counseling was the best thing we did BEFORE we tied the knot. uestions can be answered, dialog can take place. Important questions like... Do you believe in spanking the kids??, if you are not in the same religion, which one will they be raised in,

you find capatability before marriage..calling it a contract belittles the committment, contracts can be broken, this is not a contract, its a committment, one you make before man and mostly before GOD almighty, if you do not believe in God, then so be it, but without him in it it will fail, becasue if God is ultimate Love, then lets learn from him what it means to really be in love, its a choice, not something to bargain with, in this life and times love and committment are thrown out the window for humanism, secular humanism is about what we feel is right, individually, not corporately. In my home I make the final decisions, but I talk to my wife about them first. Anyway my main point is life without God in it will be empty and full of disapointment.
pingwin 2 | 117  
18 Mar 2007 /  #15
It is said that the heart is the home of God. And we need to clean our heart so that God may live in it.

All the others forgot to invite God into thier thinking. You were the first to mention him by name.

Thank You both for reminding me that he should be in the pilot seat of my life and not the other way around. I finally got it today. I have been neglacting him and it took this post to give me a wake up call. Dziękuję
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
19 Mar 2007 /  #16
I think living together before getting married is an excellent idea. 50% of marriages in Canada end in divorce! Why? Because people get married too quickly - they don't spend enough time getting to know each other and then they realize they're not compatible. Then starts the stress, lawyers, ....

I would also add that people in the west have a different , a much more lenient, approach towards marriage. Basically a lot of them treats it similar to a product in a supermarket. When some problems occur, when there is something they don't like, instead of fighting for the relationship, they just give up on it, and search for another one. An "old fashioned" couple would have fought for their feeling's. Personally I can see how that attitude will catch on in Poland. Actually, it already has. :)
sapphire 22 | 1,241  
19 Mar 2007 /  #17
Interesting comments. Heres another from me. I live with my boyfriend, we are not married (we would like to some day, but he is still married to someone else). We are in love with each other (not just lust) He is a Catholic, I am a Protestant, we both believe in God and attend Church regularly, in fact I even work for the Church.. I dont expect you all to agree with this, but I guess every case is different.. so dont judge everyone who is 'living in sin' the same.

In my home I make the final decisions, but I talk to my wife about them first.

wow. shes some lucky woman :) equality is well and truly alive in your household then!

Note: I was being sarcastic.. just in case anyone thought I meant it.
OP LoneStranger 3 | 382  
19 Mar 2007 /  #18
Poland

Its not about how it will catch up on Poland of smthing... it is about values, which people in Poland should realise, just like people anywhere in the world (including the west). We are all humans, and need to release ourselves under the warmth of the purest rays of the sun.

We are in love with each other (not just lust)

And he is still married. I will leave no comment here. Its your life.

but I guess every case is different.. so dont judge everyone who is 'living in sin' the same.

I almost never visit the Church (I am usually at the gym in that time :) ). .

And I am very open minded and love to study other religions. I believe in Christ and religions which came before him. I dont see todays Islam as good, but I see Mohammed as a very loving and spiritually guided being. I have interest in the Baha'i faith. More importantly... I realise that all of mankind is created by One God... and that God does not differentiate among its creatures...

About sin... I dont hate the sinner, I only hate the sin.
About Judging... I dont have the right to judge anyone my dear friend :). Here I am only giving out my opinion.

If at some poin in our life, we are privileged enough to realise that we need to follow a path (compromising our ego and desires) which is tough but true, then we should give ourselves a go...

In any case, marriage is that pure bond that must be kept pure for harmony and peace. Marriage is clean and filled with fresh air... is it the ultimate symbol of true love between a man and a woman, it is the seed of creation.

I try to keep my heart clean... I hope God will bless me by His presence in my heart :). I hope I can have the strength to accept all the goodness that He gives me. I pray that all my friends around to world (including my home, Poland) be blessed with realisation.

:) Good Luck.

LoneStranger.

pingwin

:) ... have you seen the cartoon Pengu! :) ... I like it :)
pingwin 2 | 117  
19 Mar 2007 /  #19
... have you seen the cartoon Pengu! ... I like it

No I haven't!!! Check out the funny videos post I thought it was amusing. :)
OP LoneStranger 3 | 382  
19 Mar 2007 /  #20
Check out the funny videos post

It was great :)

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