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Swine flu vaccinations taking place in Poland?


Zosia 1 | 51  
29 Oct 2009 /  #31
Lie #4 - Vaccines are safe
And how would any journalists actually know this? None of the vaccines have been subjected to real-world testing for any meaningful duration. The "safety" of these vaccines is nothing more than wishful thinking.

and what exactly are you basing this on? and why would journalists know better than health professionals? vaccines are plenty safe, and those that believe they aren't are gullible enough to believe the conspiracy theorists.

I'm with the same company for over 16 years and I'm yet to call in sick. So there.
I'll take my chances.

yay, good for you. not everyone can say the same, and i'll talk my chances by getting vaccinated.
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
29 Oct 2009 /  #32
and i'll talk my chances by getting vaccinated.

you will turn into a strawberry.....oooops....you have...!
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
29 Oct 2009 /  #33
I don't know anybody (yet) who had the swine flu...
I'd rather rely on my T-cells to defend my body against this or any other invader. I keep them strong with whole foods and so far the 'little soldiers" did not disappoint me.

All the best to you and your T-cells, although they tend to loose their battles once in a while.
Just a couple days ago a lot of people with views similar to yours changed their minds on a dime. That was after a sudden death of a 13 year old in perfect health. That boy went down fast!

So I guess in the end it's a lottery whether someone decides to get a shot or not.
asik 2 | 220  
29 Oct 2009 /  #34
I can't believe that people are so gullible and so eager to put this poison in their bodies. I think pharmaceutical companies just need some cash and are "in" with the media to keep people scared. (Seanus, where are you? It is a perfect conspiracy theory, innit?)
I don't know anybody (yet) who had the swine flu...

I'd choose to get that "poison" than to be exposed to any untreatable diseases. No one is telling you "you must do it" it should be your free choice in case of vaccination against any flu viruses.

Every Naturopath-DoctorMike represents their view here- will tell you that vaccination doesn't work but what kind of treatment they (natural medicine) can offer people, when a virus changes into bacterial infection,that's what usually happens in many cases. What kind of natural medicine can you offer to fight ie: pneumonia; possible final result of viral/bacterial flu.

Vaccination is a protection against anypossible complication aroused from the infectious disease and it doesn't mean you won't get sick.
Eurola
I can see you are from USA. If the virus spreads like it happened in Australia (because of the winter season at the time) you'll see infected people everywhere around you - believe me.

Where would world be today without vaccination or medication (like antibiotics) to treat diseases.
I'm just a common healthy person not a specialist (I trust my family doctor recommendation) and if healthy people are dying from a certain diseases why not vaccinate, if it can help you?
krysia 23 | 3,057  
29 Oct 2009 /  #35
you'll see infected people everywhere around you - believe me.

There are infected people already, but the swine flu has less complications than the common flu. And why inject junk into your body to fight off something you might never end up getting? then all those chemicals and foreign antibodies live in you. Your body then relies on this "foreign body" and in the meantime becomes weaker because of it and you become more suspectible for other diseases.
asik 2 | 220  
29 Oct 2009 /  #36
And why inject junk into your body to fight off something you might never end up getting?

It's your choice krysia.
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
29 Oct 2009 /  #37
Many people die from infections that antibiotics should have cured...the reason...people have been filling themselves up with pills and potions of every kind for the slightest ailment , and many diseases have developed a resistance to the antibiotics....

I don,t take any pills or potions unless i really have to , mind you , i have no idea how many antibiotics are injected into the animals that are turned into food...probably better i don,t know...!
Zosia 1 | 51  
29 Oct 2009 /  #38
you will turn into a strawberry.....oooops....you have...!

hahahha
darn it! and i'm finding it really hard to move around too. rolling around is getting really annoying. :)
nauczyciel  
29 Oct 2009 /  #39
more ppl die from regular seasonal flu than this H1N1 overhype hysteria.
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
30 Oct 2009 /  #40
And why inject junk into your body to fight off something you might never end up getting?

This is kinda sorta like insurance (health, home, car etc). You may never get in trouble and yet people buy insurance.

then all those chemicals and foreign antibodies live in you. Your body then relies on this "foreign body" and in the meantime becomes weaker because of it and you become more suspectible for other diseases.

I don't think you understand the mechanism of vaccines.

- Yes, foreign body is introduced into yours.
- No, your body does not rely on that foreign body to fight off disease.

That foreign body is a weakened (so to speak) virus, so of course it won't fight itself. Since it is a weakened virus your body can fight it without any trouble (rare exceptions may occur) and during that fight it becomes familiar with the DNA of the enemy. When a full fledged virus hits then your body already knows how to deal with it becaue it has some experience fighting the crippled version of the same virus.

This is grade 8 biology, so please forgive my grade 4 language. That ought tomake it easier to understand some of the hazy basics.

Many people die from infections that antibiotics should have cured...the reason...people have been filling themselves up with pills and potions of every kind for the slightest ailment , and many diseases have developed a resistance to the antibiotics....

Except that antibiotics are a completely different ball game. While vaccines "teach" the organism how to fight with a particular enemy antibiotics do not. They just do the fight for you.

What's more, antibiotics are not used to fight viri (or viruses, if you prefer) such as H1N1, or any other. Instead antiviral drugs may be used, for instance TamiFlu. As for the vaccinations, they may be effective in immunizing against both viri and bacteria.

It's OK to refuse this particular, or any other vaccine. But people! At least try to understand what you're refusing , and the reasons why you are refusing it.
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
30 Oct 2009 /  #41
Nothing that I read here convinces me that having a flu shot is the right choice. The shot neither prevents the flu nor makes it milder. I'm only against flu shots.

I'm grateful for having all the shots I got a s kid, i.e.measles, rubella, chicken pox etc., all the typical, mandatory shots we got in Poland. I would not object to get a shot for malaria, if I were to travel somewhere where I may most likely come across it.

But a flu? It happens every year for as long as I live, it is as common as a common cold.
Nourish you body, don't put junk in it, your immune system will thank you. Our great 'architect' knew how to make our bodies, he even included the body guards. Take care of them and they will take care of you when the need arises.

People get sick and survive or die from other complications, not necessarily the flu.
This swine flu is just the same like the others. No flu shots for me.
sledz 23 | 2,250  
30 Oct 2009 /  #42
Nothing that I read here convinces me that having a flu shot

Ive never had a flu shot and Im not going to get it now.

Its not even that bad of a flu, you get a fever for a few days and its over:)
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
30 Oct 2009 /  #43
sledz
Do you get the chills too? I remember having a fever and the chills as a kid. A memorable experience, not even the thick, heavy, goose feather 'pierzyna' could warm me up...

(I think I have a couple of blankets in my closet, just in case...) :)
sledz 23 | 2,250  
30 Oct 2009 /  #44
Do you get the chills too?

Like your really hot and sweating then youre freezing 5 minutes later,, I had that before:(

Nothing like chicken zupa when Im sick, I hate the headache part of it when you cant sleep grrrrr

I already know someone who had the n1h1 and 3 days later he was laughing about it.
Eurola 4 | 1,906  
31 Oct 2009 /  #45
Nobody in my family in Poland had it yet...grrr..media hype. Who is benefiting from this "scare'? We know who!
Booo! Halloween time!
krysia 23 | 3,057  
31 Oct 2009 /  #46
My friend got the regular flu 2 weeks ago, and is still recovering from it. My brother got the pig flu 3 days ago, and he's over it.

I think people get those flus mixed up and when they die, they blame it on the pig..
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
31 Oct 2009 /  #47
Maybe you want to check out the news from Ternopil...just over the Polish border in Ukraine...if that does not panic you , then nothing will...I have a friend there , so i am a bit worried about her...
sobieski 107 | 2,128  
31 Oct 2009 /  #48
My sister had H1/N1 back home in Belgium 1,5 month ago. Unpleasant business but nothing compared to the real flu. (and for that one you can and should vaccinate).

If you look into these deaths, they always come from complications.
The pharma gigants are of course making buckets of money on it... as always...
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
31 Oct 2009 /  #49
The news from Ukraine is not good..they are thinking the virus may have mutated into something more deadly...if its true then the vacine they are using now may not be of any use....Check out thenews.pl to see what they say...
roalex 13 | 40  
1 Nov 2009 /  #50
Regardless of what people think of getting vaccinations and whether or not they work. I think the more important question is, does Poland have any stockpiles of the H1N1 flu vaccine? If it does not then they may be in for some serious problems when the virus does come into contact with the Polish populace.

Nov 1, 09, 11:34 - Thread attached on merging:
Does Poland have H1N1 vaccination stockpiles?

I am under the impression that Poland does not have any stockpiles of the H1N1 vaccination. Do any other members know if this is true? My dad who lives in Poland asked me if it is possible to send him a vaccination because Poland doesn't have any.

Now, I have no idea how I would be able to get my hands on a vaccination and and then mail it to him. I am not even sure of that is legal. At any rate can anyone confirm if this is true?

Cheers
sobieski 107 | 2,128  
1 Nov 2009 /  #51
I think, apart from H1/N1 hysteria spreading faster as the virus itself (including on this forum), I thinking sending a vaccine by mail could be tricky... Vaccines are kept in a fridge, so how would it survive air mail?

Besides how do you know what to buy?
And no, Poland has as far as I know no stockpile of vaccines.

But people, stay calm and the pharma gangsters are already rich enough...
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
1 Nov 2009 /  #52
Well , we had the bird flu , which sort of fell out of the news , now this swine flu....I don,t myself intend to rush out and buy any pills or potions , or try to get a flu injection , but i suspect that many people will be thinking its going to be the only way to survive...

Polish people seem to like taking pills for this and that , as has been mentioned on another thread , so i have no doubt that anything that is believed to protect you from this swine flu will be much in demand....

I am pretty sire we are all not in mortal danger from this virus as it is now , but the danger of course is that it could mutate into something more dangerous , in which case , the vacines they have now will not be of any use , even if they do have enough...

The Ukrainians seem to think that this is what may have happened , but it may just be a case of mass hysteria...when all is said and done , there is nothing much that us mere mortals can do about it , so its a waste of time running around in a a panic....

Just keep an eye on the news , keep calm....and if a pig near you sneezes...hold your breath....

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