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How do Poles feel about non whites/non Slavs living in Poland?


i_love_detroit 1 | 69  
28 Jan 2009 /  #91
I've seen them with my own two eyes

I am sorry then, but you are wrong or live in an area that is particulary populated by Polish ppl. The emigration to Germany is accidental I would say for many reason, first more ppl speak English rather than German, it is cheaper (sic! but it's true) to travel to Great Britain than Germany, the British economy is better, and finally British people are just more welcoming (eg look at the openness of British market).

If you are talking about sesonal workers, you should realize that that without workers on those underpaid positions Germany would be in even bigger crisis.

I can undestand the flustration of some people over the economic stagnation, but turning into immigrants as the source of all evil is simple cause but not understanding of complex processes in economy and society...
Ignac - | 28  
28 Jan 2009 /  #92
Bubbles. There is no way that you can be Polish. You have to be Irish, as that would explain a lot.
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
28 Jan 2009 /  #93
Bubbles, so why would you ask me for doing your pipes? Have you gone crazy, perhaps?
:)
MrBubbles 10 | 614  
28 Jan 2009 /  #94
Why would you assume I can do the job? On what grounds?

Because Poles and cash in hand labour go together like God and Jesus. Do you want the work or not?

The emigration to Germany blah blah blah blah

So you agree that Poles have moved to Germany?

Bubbles. There is no way that you can be Polish. You have to be Irish, as that would explain a lot.

Sorry I can't hear you. Take the klan mask off your head and try again
i_love_detroit 1 | 69  
28 Jan 2009 /  #95
So you agree that Poles have moved to Germany?

I never disputed it. As I written though it is accidental. Maybe measured in thousands. The real Polish emigration arrived in Germany many years ago. But it is whole different story.
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
28 Jan 2009 /  #96
Because Poles and cash in hand labour go together like God and Jesus. Do you want the work or not?

- So according to Bubbles all Poles perform cash-in-hand labour? At the same time, he's pretending to be Blacks-loving and anti-klan. On one hand, he insults the Poles, on the other hand brownoses the Blacks. What a racist and hypocrite.

:)
Ignac - | 28  
28 Jan 2009 /  #97
Sorry I can't hear you. Take the klan mask off your head and try again

LOL! Now what in the world would lead you to the fact that I might belong to the Klan? Was it something that I said?
LoveHateU - | 23  
28 Jan 2009 /  #98
- I wrote about many Blacks coming over to this forum and being really racist towards the Poles. What would you say to that? I also pointed to your buddy ilovedetroit that he is lying this forum is Blacks and Pakistanis bashing. What's your position on this? Do you condemn Black aggression against Poles?

Lol...this is insanely amusing. Many blacks from where? Come on...Do i condemn black oppression towards poles...lol...where in poland has this happened before?...i must have missed history. I dont think minorities in poland oppress Poles.....maybe i should start reading Gazeta polska online. Damn... Did U read that 2 Asians where attacked in Gdansk last week and now they are in the hospital, Did you read that racism is on the increase in Poland...(do not quote me...but i think its because of Obama's rule of the US.) ...what hurts me is that Poles just ignore this crimes against this extremely weak minority .... Asians, blacks, Gypsies and other non white living in Poland. The police dont do enough to protect this people. The attacked would be blamed on guys who are just drunk and that is where it ends....its a pity....

I am sure this post will generate comments...I am ready to defend my comments.
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
28 Jan 2009 /  #99
Lovehateyou is keeping silent - hasn't replied to my question whether he condems Black racism towards Poles. Should I understand that he is for the racism in question? And another smoothtalker, Ilovedetroit, is also keeping quiet in regard to his former remarks that this forum is allegedly Black and Pakistani bashing. Oh, so when Blacks and Pakistanis are bashed it's bad, but when the Poles are bashed - for example by psychopaths of Mr Bubbles' ilk - then it's okay, right lovehateyou and Ilovedetroit? That's good to know - I'll know now what to tell the Polish people about the Black attitude towards them.

:)

Update: lovehateyou has actually replied to my comments with a post whose main message appears to be: it's not 'racial minorities' who are racist towards Poles, it's the Poles who are racist towards 'racial minorities.' He has denied the numerous cases of attacks against Poles by Blacks and others (e.g. in London). I'm going to translate this into Polish and post on Polish websites, for the Poles to read. :) Well, my friend, my attitude towards those like yourself is now changing. :)
LoveHateU - | 23  
28 Jan 2009 /  #100
Lovehateyou is keeping silent

Huh?
MrBubbles 10 | 614  
28 Jan 2009 /  #101
Did you read that racism is on the increase in Poland

I would disagree. Poles have always been a bunch of racists and the only difference is that the numbers of non whites has increased.

psychopaths of Mr Bubbles' ilk

Well, you've lost the plumbing job now. And don't bother PMing me about iit either.
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
28 Jan 2009 /  #102
Poles have always been a bunch of racists

- And who says it? A virulent Polonophobic racist himself, and a brownosing hypocrite. Your world is coming to the end, hypocrite, you and yours are dying out. Good riddance to you.

:)
LoveHateU - | 23  
28 Jan 2009 /  #103
Well, my friend, my attitude towards those like yourself is now changing. :)

I love this...spread the message around. In fat that is why i am here. The orgainsation i work for in Holland would be pleased to see u do this.

Why dont you come out open and trash it out with me on the forum. I am not so good with words....but i can sure take a punch or two.

come on...where in this world have you found minorities overpowering the majority. Hey we are not living in the biblical days when Israel with a 10 man army would defeat the philitines. Be real.

Why aren't you helping defend us as anybody else? Tell me.

pls read my quote and dont miss interpret it....

Come on...Do i condemn black oppression towards poles...lol...where in Poland has this happened before?...i must have missed history. I dont think minorities in Poland oppress Poles.....maybe i should start reading Gazeta polska online.

I mentioned Poland....not UK. Poles are also Minorities in the UK. They suffer from about the same treatment other minorities faces in the UK. There is in fact a large base of minorities in the UK and they could always support themselves and seek justice if they are treated wrongly.

But in Poland, there is not base so support this people...most of them are students, immigrants, and maybe workers. Some of them..this is the first time they are living outside their families. They don't deserve to be killed, attacked or racially abused. They are only trying to get a life...and skinheads (plus those who are not skinheads but dont condemn skinheads) in Poland wont give them a chance to live a decent life.

This is where i stand....they need to live and let live
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
28 Jan 2009 /  #104
This is where i stand

- Okay, I got ya. But don't tell me there's no racism against Poles - not just in UK, but elsewhere in Europe, including Holland.

So your organisation deals with cases of racism against non-whites in Poland, but not with cases of racism against the Poles outside of Poland, e.g. in Holland?
Czarnobog - | 33  
5 Feb 2009 /  #105
You know, Poland was a good place for people escaping religious prosecution during the medieval ages. I think many Poles forget that we opened our doors to Jews during the Spanish Inquisition and that the Tatars who lived in Poland from 14-18 century brought Islam with them. For generations these people lived together amicably. The Tartars were even granted szlachta (nobility) status.

Unfortunately, today things have changed somewhat. Poland wants to crawl up USA's ass so far that it has adopted the phobias of the West (like Islamophobia). It has forgotten it's longstanding Slavic traditions and is more likely even to relate to Westerners than to its Slavic brothers (for example Russians).

I prefer the Commonwealth of the past to today's "central European" (yet another attempt to distance ourselves from the East) republic. What gives me hope, however, is that America will never view Poland as equal or as civilized enough (to them Poland is the land of Borat). Here in the West, Poland is backwards and Poles encounter racism here despite the fact that we are European. Some White American's don't even view Slavs as properly White. Remember, Hitler didn't think of us as pure white either -- we were too Slavic. I think we should embrace ourselves and stop trying to get approval from the West.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
5 Feb 2009 /  #106
Which longstanding Slavic traditions would they be? Also, try separating politics from the people. Most Poles don't seek approval from the West. The government, however, often tries to curry favour with Western governments.
LAGirl 9 | 496  
6 Feb 2009 /  #107
POLAND Should Stay White.BIAłY Dobrze!!!
Czarnobog - | 33  
6 Feb 2009 /  #108
Poland was never white... White was a Western European colonial invention. They can keep it, and LAGirl with it.
Lukim80  
6 Feb 2009 /  #109
Some White American's don't even view Slavs as properly White

BULL SHIT!
McCoy 27 | 1,275  
6 Feb 2009 /  #110
yeah, czanobog cut your crap. if you have complexes because your wife is coloured and muslim its your fuckin problem. go and cure your complexes elsewhere. I'm really glad that in my own country when i'm going out i dont need to see all these dark muslim faces looking at me as if i were the intruder and the enemy.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
6 Feb 2009 /  #111
How do Poles feel about non whites/non Slavs living in Poland? This includes the ones that are just imported with an IQ of 77

Good question. Does it imply that, after flooding Western Europe, they will not accept that they too are getting their share of what is called the global village? Would be a bit selfish and weird, eh?

And: all countries were built by their inhabitants, be it natives or immigrants. No excuse for not accepting the fact that there will be immigrants.

yeah, czanobog cut your crap. if you have complexes because your wife is coloured and muslim its your fuckin problem. go and cure your complexes elsewhere. I'm really glad that in my own country when i'm going out i dont need to see all these dark muslim faces looking at me as if i were the intruder and the enemy.

What about if you lived about 30 years ago in the Soviet Union as a homosexual transvestite Jewish negro and you and your homosexual transvestite white Arab boyfriend had a little Korean adoptive babyboy?

M-G (immigration is a very good thing. Clears the blood of too much inbred and brings in unexpected cultural diversity which is terribly needed, especially in that part of the world)
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
6 Feb 2009 /  #112
If Poland were to be a type of bread, it'd be Mighty White. Poland is full of whites. I've seen very few dark-skinned Poles. Even Sweden, regarded as having a hugely white population introduced dark-skinned people into its borders.

Sorry, Poland is as about as white as it gets. Maybe Ukraine too
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
6 Feb 2009 /  #113
Sorry, Poland is as about as white as it gets.

And unfortunately that is a good heap of racism too. Not always outspoken, but surely suggested. At least, by lots of Polish that I know.

M-G (wishes everybody was green-skinned)
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
6 Feb 2009 /  #114
I agree, M-G. My fiancee says the same and many of my students have made comments to that effect. Expect a barrage of abuse for saying so, M-G, but not from my side.

There are so many racists here. In Britain, there was a major crackdown on racist slurs at football matches. At times like that, I'd rather not know Polish. Still, the monkey noises were a dead give-away.
MrBubbles 10 | 614  
6 Feb 2009 /  #115
Poland wants to crawl up USA's ass so far that it has adopted the phobias of the West (like Islamophobia). It has forgotten it's longstanding Slavic traditions and is more likely even to relate to Westerners than to its Slavic brothers (for example Russians).

Agreed. Look at crap like Halloween - give it a generation and it'll replace All Saints Day. Then again, everyone seems to look West for inspiration - unfortunately
Prince 15 | 590  
6 Feb 2009 /  #116
It is such strange attitude to use term "Eastern European" in not geographical meaning.
Then talk about racism.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
6 Feb 2009 /  #117
Halloween, eh? They don't dook for apples though. Maybe that is only in Scotland, I don't know.

Who are you addressing, Prince?
MrBubbles 10 | 614  
6 Feb 2009 /  #118
Who are you addressing, Prince?

I think he's just circling the airport.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
6 Feb 2009 /  #119
"Eastern European"

Yeah, that is funny. My g/f (or ex-, don't know anymore) actually stated that Poland was part of Western Europe :)
They may have been the most Western country of the Warsaw-Pact, but they are still a Central European country at it's most Western. I don't think it's racist if somebody calls me a Western European, because that is what I am. So why would it be racist if I call somebody who is obviously from a country to the East of mine and I don't know which, "Eastern European"? Or Central European, for that matter.

M-G (nah, why are Poles always so touchy?)
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
6 Feb 2009 /  #120
Exactly, I don't think Poland is an Eastern European country but many Brits and Americans continue to refer to it as such.

I think he is talking to himself again.

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