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The nations Poles don't like (stats)


Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
4 May 2008 /  #1
so I feel we need to post it:
data is in %

Nations Poles dont like

interpretation:
30% of Poles don't like Russians ... 25,7 % Germans ...

Cygan means Gypsy
Żyd means Jew

(yes Poles hate less Jews and Gypsies than Germans and Russians) ;)

as to Americans there is much bigger positive feeling towards this nation than negative (5%) (in positive feelings they are close to the top).

This stats show only negative feelings not positive. https://polishforums.com/life/nations-poles-like-least-16703/
Polson 5 | 1,771  
4 May 2008 /  #2
Hehe, Russians...
I'm surprised about Ukrainians though...why would some Poles don't like them ? (there may be something but can't remember...)
Kasia84 8 | 40  
4 May 2008 /  #3
You should try reading the history behind these "reasons" :)) I know I was a bit surprised too. I know some Ukrainians in Canada don't like us. They say Poles controlled Ukrainians (back in like the King's day in Poland). Which I don't get it fully because at that time Russians wanted to take over Ukraine...The Polish King at that time; said ok you can join us but just follow our rules...Ukraine joined Poland (but not to be a part of Poland) just the Polish King ruling over them too; so that Russia doesn't take over the country Ukraine. They felt more safe with Poland at that time (Poland was powerful).

So I guess not everybody were happy being under control of the Polish King.

During the Great World War; Ukraine were with Russia (part of Red Army?) they helped them; killing Poles. I know this because one of my grandfather's brother's whole family were killed by Ukrainians during the war....so I would assume the # of these Poles still don't like them because of that history.
OP Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
4 May 2008 /  #4
I'm surprised about Ukrainians though...why would some Poles don't like them ? (there may be something but can't remember...)

our beautiful Lwow :-( ... and infamous Ukrainian SS units in Warsaw (WWII)

(it is rather about older genration)

honestly after "orange revolution" they are more and more liked in Poland.

as to Russians and Germans I feel that I shouldn't post more stats ;)
southern 75 | 7,096  
4 May 2008 /  #5
Cyganie is a nation?
Polson 5 | 1,771  
4 May 2008 /  #6
They felt more safe with Poland at that time (Poland was powerful).

You mean during the Poland-Lithuanian Commonwealth ?... or later ? Poland was among the most powerful state at that time...
I know some of the history you told me :) Thanks for the info anyway.

as to Russians and Germans I feel that I shouldn't post more stats ;)

Well...there's almost 1 Pole out of 3 who doesn't like Russians, and 1 Pole out of 4 who doesn't like Germans... i wouldn't have known that without your stats, Lukasz ;)

Cyganie is a nation?

What are they then ? If Żydzi are...Cyganie are too ;)
OP Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
4 May 2008 /  #7
i wouldn't have known that without your stats, Lukasz ;)

be careful Polson last time you have lost a lot in my eyes ! :)

going back to topic.

Romanians are on this list beacuse of Gypsies. Rome is gypsy (the same as Cygan) and Rumun is Romanian in Polish. what is more a lot of gypsies in Poland are form Romania so ...

it seems that 2,9% of Polish people think we are on war against Iraqs people :)
Polson 5 | 1,771  
4 May 2008 /  #8
be careful Polson last time you have lost a lot in my eyes ! :)

Haha, i don't even know the colour of your eyes ;) LoL

it seems that 2,5% of Polish people think we are on war against Iraqs people :)

Still better than 50% of American people...... ;P
Wahldo  
4 May 2008 /  #9
Still better than 50% of American people...... ;P

okay.. touche there.
King Sobieski 2 | 716  
4 May 2008 /  #10
the ukranians were known for killing and raping the polish people towards the end of WW2...well, that is what my mums mum said.
hello 22 | 891  
4 May 2008 /  #11
Poles - by nature - do not like their neighbours. I'm suprised "Arabs" is listed as a nation and why Poles don't like Arabs or Iraqis as an average Pole has never seen or had any relations with an Arab or Iraqi in their life, but here the media propaganda works.
mafketis 23 | 8,421  
5 May 2008 /  #12
Cyganie is a nation?

Very common translation problem (hard to call it an error, even if it does frequently lead to misunderstandings).

For most native english speakers, 'nation' means 'country' (in Polish 'kraj')

But here it's being used (confusingly) as a translation of the Polish 'naród' which is 'ethnic group' or sometimes (though not here) 'nationality'.
Kaylyn - | 14  
5 May 2008 /  #13
Poles - by nature - do not like their neighbours.

I see we have ourselves an anthropologist.
strzyga 2 | 993  
5 May 2008 /  #14
Poles - by nature - do not like their neighbours.

I do like my neighbours. Well, most of them, anyway. I'm not especially keen on the one that lives downstairs, though.
Polson 5 | 1,771  
5 May 2008 /  #15
Poles - by nature - do not like their neighbours

Well, the poll says that Poles "hate" Russians the most, but Russia isn't its neighbour, apart from Kaliningrad... :)

here it's being used (confusingly) as a translation of the Polish 'naród' which is 'ethnic group'

Polish people have always been a nation, even when they had no country, that's the definition, a group of people that share a common culture, language, religion, etc.

I'm not especially keen on the one that lives downstairs, though

Which one ? :)
strzyga 2 | 993  
5 May 2008 /  #16
Which one ? :)

The tall one, doors on the right :) He tends to leave his car at my garage door blocking the way out, so we have issues :) Still, he's not a bad guy.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
5 May 2008 /  #17
Like there was on another thread, there needs to be a separation between people and government. It was established that the Poles dislike the Russian govt but not necessarily the people. I thought the Germans would top the list.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,591  
5 May 2008 /  #18
Does that mean 3 in 4 Poles actually like Germany??? I'm surprised....:)
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
5 May 2008 /  #19
Like there was on another thread, there needs to be a separation between people and government.

it is correct and fair to seperate people of a country from their government. its also correct and fair to say that many people in a country are represented by their government. there is no separation for some.

when i saw the list above i tried to compile a similar one for the uk and ran into difficulties.

what countries are disliked by people of the british isles?
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
5 May 2008 /  #20
France would rate highly tho mainly due to the sentiment of the English. Poland has also made its way onto that list, again more English bad blood than others.

It is important to separate the 2 as to do otherwise would be crazy. Look at Americans and the perception of them. They are afraid to travel out of fear thanks to an interventionist foreign policy.
Bartolome 2 | 1,085  
5 May 2008 /  #21
and infamous Ukrainian SS units in Warsaw (WWII)

If we're talking about Warsaw Uprising, according to Norman Davies, contrary to popular opinion they weren't Ukrainian, but Byelorussian and Lithuanian units (apart from common criminals who were promised abolition of their crimes).

Does that mean 3 in 4 Poles actually like Germany??? I'm surprised....:)

Perhaps more precisely term would be 'don't dislike' :) Although I think that more and more Poles don't look at Germans through II WW prism. Personally I don't mind Germans, however I know that there are many who still consider us as 'Untermenschen' or 'Wasserpolen'.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,591  
5 May 2008 /  #22
"Wasserpolen"???

I never heard that....
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
5 May 2008 /  #23
Waterpoles? Sounds weird to me too
Bartolome 2 | 1,085  
5 May 2008 /  #24
"Wasserpolen"???

I never heard that....

Well, it's a name given to Silesians from Western Poland with German citizenship, who are interested only in making money in Germany.
Different definition (I guess so :):

spotlight-wissen.de/lisp/pages/messages/abuc-1113811969-26217
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,591  
5 May 2008 /  #25
Hmmm...my family stems from Silesia but I never heard that...

Your link gives two explanations:

1.) Poles from the Oder (especially raw and wantless)

or

2.) pure Poles (Poles of purest water)
OP Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
5 May 2008 /  #26
Does that mean 3 in 4 Poles actually like Germany??? I'm surprised....:)

does that mean: 9 in 10 poles like Gypsies ?
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
5 May 2008 /  #27
My girl is Slązaczką and she has never heard of Wasserpolen. Many Poles go abroad just for money, it isn't a new phenomenon
OP Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
5 May 2008 /  #28
btw my post was edited by admin and I haven't add link to another discussion on this forum :)
Bartolome 2 | 1,085  
5 May 2008 /  #29
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Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,591  
5 May 2008 /  #30
I'm still not clear if that's a degradation...

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