Polish culture differences from the rest of Europe.

the polish culture is very nice and different from other europe

polish people very nice

Some are, some aren't. Much like any culture, for the most part.

Oh no ... hardly any other culture has people as nice as us. Its just fact... :)

Come on guys, polish cultere, are u jokong? I can define polish culture in brief: drinking beer, eating sausages, watch tv or listen music (sometimes smoking fags). Polish people are very simple, not so much deep. So to define Polish culture is really hard for me.

There is more to polish than meet the eye ;)

No. They like to think that, but in fact they are not. But every country thinks it's different than the rest.

Poles tend to drink more alcohol than other ppls, complain more about the past, prefer their own kind above others, are not straightforward and are behind the rest of Europe in terms of tolerance, equality and other things we have been fighting for over the past decades/centuries.


If they are fully dressed, yes :)

dutch1

Another Dutch! Our army is getting bigger and bigger. Watch out world, here we come :)

M-G (and the Polish women are just like any other women)

Yes we are, but do not adopt them...im the only one :D

Wrong yet again according to Forbs overall Europeans rank as the world's biggest drinkers. In terms of annual per capita consumption of liters of pure alcohol.



I would have to disagree with you on this one, There is one other that fits this description to a tee.


Let's see how Dutch fair in that tolerance, equality over the past decades. I believe that the guest workers program started in 1950's in Netherlands. When the Dutch finally realized that the migration that was perceived as temporary turned out to be permanent you started to organize new political parties by the late 90's with an anti immigration theme blaming all the ills of your society on the Muslims. Dutch politicians such as Fortuyn called Islam a backward culture seeing that they simply do not integrate into the fabric of Dutch society. Although you might think that you are evolved and tolerant, that you achieved some kind of balance and try to spread the massage of multiculturalism, the fact is that the rift and discourse between the Muslims and the rest of Dutch population grows with each year passing. Isn't harmony and tolerance a measure on how evolved, tolerant, advanced and sophisticated any given culture is? I'm sorry but I fail to see that in Dutch society, just because you tolerate homosexuality and drug use? which in itself is not necessarily a good thing either. It's not a measure of tolerance and sophistication but a passing trend rather like a hippy movement.

Didn't you just have Utrecht Riots and Moroccan-Dutch youth riots? Show me the last time there were race riots in Poland. Tensions are flying high, incompatibility between the two fractions in you society are great and far from resolved. The way I see it, in the past 50 years or so the Dutch have not evolved or mature as a nation but regressed to even lower level than it was in a pre-war period. I for one do not believe in multiculturalism, and if that makes me intolerant or not advanced enough for you so be it. My opinion stems from my observation of the so called advanced western societies and I see that this model simply dose not work because cultural differences are huge, you have no right to pass judgement on us in light of what's going on in your country. When you finally achieve that utopian dream of yours then and only then you can preach this massage of yours, after all seeing is believing. Looks like you still have a long way to go and a long road ahead of you.

Polish, not polish... big difference...

The polish(-ing) culture is also very interesting.

Politicians such as Fortuyn do not represent all of Holland. Oh, and about 80% of the third generation immigrants from Islamic countries are fully integrated, have jobs, live our culture and speak our language perfectly. (Ofcourse there are problems, and you've got a few racists everywhere!)


You clearly don't know what you're talking about. In Utrecht, a Dutch guy got shot by a police officer, after he threatened them with a knife, and Dutch Hooligans saw it as an opportunity to riot. (Along with some local youths.)

As for the Morrocan-Dutch riots, I would hardly call any of that event a riot.

nrc.nl/opinie/article2019438.ece/Laetitia_Griffith_Het_land_staat_in_brand_was_ongelukkige_woordkeuze - Poor choice of words.

In this article, politicians admit that they weren't informed. The Police Department confirmed that no riots took place. It seems some people have been blowing something out of proportions, just like you're doing..

:)

You gotta love the Media!

Clearly you are talking from a Polish point of view. And for the rest: Arien has done a pretty good job in saying what I wanted to say. But let me give you some additional points and examples:

- we have the least drugs-related problems in the world. Why? Because our police smartly enough focuses on the real perpetrators: the dealers, drug-trafikers, users of cocaine, heroin; hard-drugs in general. Junkies are generally monitored and police is pretty well aware where exactly the problematic areas are. Instead of proscecuting every bit of hash, weed, etc, we keep things under control. Our prostitutes are legal since a few years, pay their taxes and see a doctor regularily. How's that for being safe and fair?

- homosexuals are as a rule of thumb richer than non-homosexuals. Don't know why that is, but it turns out to be this way. Again, instead of proscecuting, stupidly harassing them with retarded moral views, we tolerate them, hence make money out of them. In fact heterosexuals cause more trouble than homosexuals do.

- I am actually surprised that you forgot to mention that other abcess in Dutch politics, Geert Wilders. Another opportunistic shouter, like Fortuyn, hardly representative for Dutch society. He may get wide coverage, but this is misleading: over 70% (Arien, mfeva correct me if I am wrong on this percentage) is not and will never be in favor of Wilders or Fortuyn. So I wouldn't say they represent Dutch society as a whole. These guys just want power and do not have any solution for everything. And besides, this "movement" didn't start in the late '90's, but in the early 20's in the midst of the first of the series of crises we are experiencing at the start of this new century. But beside all this, the vast majority of the Dutch ppl lives in perfect harmony with other cultures and accepts 3rd generation immigrants as Dutch ppl.

- There are no race-riots in Poland because there ARE no other races in Poland. Either they have killed them ages ago or they just refuse entrance. We never did that.

- What is modern about Poland? It's intolerance toward gay ppl? Nope. It's freedom? Yeah, but it's freedom based on our second-hand stuff. It's Catholicism? Nope, would hardly call that modern. You got a president or not so long his twin-brother who was prime minister (why don't I hear ppl on this forum never mention them?) who publicly make intolerable remarks about gay ppl, thereby diminishing and insulting a large group of ppl worldwide, openly accuses Germany for the lack of Polish residents, and so on.

Don't you go dare and post again that the Netherlands are not evolved and fair and tolerant. Don't you go make remarks about isolated figures within Dutch politics. When you are yourself from a country that is about the flagship of intolerance and racism.

The "riots" you mention were incidents, not race-related incidents, just the actions of hooligans and other scum. If it weren't Moroccans, like in this case, it would have been some other group. These guys were looking to fight, and they would fight, no matter who.

And what's the purpose of your posting? To show how glorious Poland is? Well, you failed in this. If there is a country that has to evolve and has a long road ahead of it, it is definitively Poland.

M-G (tsk, sorry seanus)

Wasn't the police officer accused a woman of Moroccan origin making it still racially motivated riot. The riots clearly had an ethnic nature and although the ethnicity of the police officer was never mentioned again. I guess it's your way of dealing with a problem, be PC correct, don't mention the ethnicity and it's no longer a racial issue. Now what led to those events? The residents have been complaining for months about harassment and intimidation by immigrant youths of Moroccan origin and the shooting that took place was just a trigger mechanism for the anger stored in the residents to manifest itself.


There you go, ignore the problem it may go away, but what works the best is not to draw the attention to yourself and accuse others of being precisely what you are, it's just what MareGaea dose. Bringing those issues up was to show people like MareGaea how hypocritical they are. If your looking for something to use against the people you don't like you will always find it.


This is just another example how to ignore the problem you have, change the definitions around and it's no longer an issue, besides isn't it precisely what your fallow countrymen do too, blowing something out of proportion because where I live such **** like this just dose not happen, I'm better then you attitude.

Show me how you could possibly have a race riot in a country (Poland) where you can see a black guy coming from two miles away?

What about the racism and intolerance in Poland? Or is this just blowing other countries' incidents out of proportion to divert attention from the problems you have at home?

M-G (pinpointing on incidents is easy - in the Netherlands it are incidents, in Poland it's the main line of doing things.)

Sorry Seanus??? I agree with almost all that you said, M-G. I'm Scottish, remember, not Polish. I will defend the Polish corner on some issues but Catholicism is hardly an evolving entity. If the Poles only knew what the Vatican really gets up to, they'd be alarmed.

Seanus

I meant sorry that you guys lost tonight, but from the images I saw, you did your best. That's why.

About Catholicism: indeed. Humanitarian workers spend years and years convincing ppl in Africa to start using condoms in order to prevent the spreading of AIDS and to keep the number of children under control, the Pope (yes John Paul 2, the "great") comes along and tells his flock that using concoms is immoral and gets you into hell. Ppl stop using condoms in an instance, the Pope annilliated the work of nearly a decade in just 5 minutes. AIDS continues to spread as it has never done before and childbirth is out of control again. Well done, a triumph for "modern" society!

M-G (would love to see the Scots in SA beside the Dutch)

Aha, well, it was our own fault. It was a fatal mistake. Intolerance in Poland? Never ;) ;)

No, it was a he, and he was Dutch.


I'm not ignoring anything, I'm not changing definitions around, and I wasn't aware of the fact I gave you that impression, because I don't have that attitude. I gave you factual information, along with more recent news updates.

Do you see Moroccans anywhere? I only see Dutch people.. I could show you more footage, more documentaries, more articles and more intervieuws but it will probably just disappoint you. (I hope you understand that I really can't be bothered to translate all of that because I don't have that much time!) I don't see any reason whatsoever to call these events ethnic conflicts. Oh, and I've seen worse riots around football matches and public dance events..