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Kupować vs Kupić


Mufasa 19 | 358  
27 Feb 2008 /  #1
What's the difference?
Davey 13 | 388  
27 Feb 2008 /  #2
One is perfective, one is imperfective.
OP Mufasa 19 | 358  
27 Feb 2008 /  #3
Which means? Examples?
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384  
27 Feb 2008 /  #4
buy: often

buy: once

I think. Wait for confirmation [sp?]
Davey 13 | 388  
27 Feb 2008 /  #5
Which means? Examples?

There's multiple threads on this, search em' up
Perfective=Completed action
Imperfective=Incomplete/Ongoing action
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240  
27 Feb 2008 /  #6
kupować is buying - Imperfective, kupić is to buy - Perfective
Michal - | 1,865  
27 Feb 2008 /  #7
kupić is perfective so wczoraj, ja kupiłlem książkę-yesterday, I bought a book (once)
Do tej chwili, ja zawsze kupowałem książki-until the present time, I have always been buying books.
OP Mufasa 19 | 358  
28 Feb 2008 /  #8
multiple threads on this, search em' up

thanx davey
gosiaczek 1 | 85  
28 Feb 2008 /  #9
imperfective = activity (extended in time)
perfective = event aspect (the fact that the action is completed is relevant)

but you'll say:

Nie musisz kupować tej książki jeśli nie chcesz (you don't have to buy this book if you don't want to)

rather than:

Nie musisz kupić tej książki, jesli nie chcesz.

The first sounds more naturally.
Ryszard - | 89  
28 Feb 2008 /  #10
Nie musisz kupić tej książki, jesli nie chcesz.

Such sentence strongly implies "now":
Nie musisz kupić tej książki (teraz), jeśli nie chcesz (choć pewnie i tak będziesz ją potrzebował w przyszłości)
Michal - | 1,865  
28 Feb 2008 /  #11
Ja kupuję-I am buying v ja kupię-I will buy
OP Mufasa 19 | 358  
29 Feb 2008 /  #12
kupuję
kupujesz
kupuje
kupujemy
kupujecie
kupują

is the present tense conjugation of kupować, tak?
what would the conjugation of kupić be?
FIOL - | 11  
29 Feb 2008 /  #13
what would the conjugation of kupić be?

There is no conjugation of "kupić",because its a "bezokolicznik"
(sorry,don't konow english name),and this form has no conjugation.
gosiaczek 1 | 85  
29 Feb 2008 /  #14
a "bezokolicznik"

infinitive.

There is no conjugation of "kupić"

there is

kupuję
kupujesz
kupuje
kupujemy
kupujecie
kupują

it is a conjugation of "kupić". as for kupowac, you don't conjugate it in present tense

KUPOWAĆ (past)

kupowałem/łam
kupowałeś/łaś
kupował/-a/-o
kupowaliśmy/łyśmy
kupowaliście/łyście
kupowali/ły

KUPIĆ (past)
kupiłem/łam
kupiłeś/łaś
kupił/-a/-o
kupiliśmy/łyśmy
kupiliście/łyście
kupili/ły
OP Mufasa 19 | 358  
29 Feb 2008 /  #15
thank you Fiol! ;)

What happened to pan Darek (ZDarius)? Is he still around?
Krzysztof 2 | 973  
29 Feb 2008 /  #16
it is a conjugation of "kupić". as for kupowac, you don't conjugate it in present tense

Now I'm lost :)
Are you saying that "kupuję" etc. ara forms of "kupić"? Of course they are NOT.
It's like Mufasa wrote ("kupować" in present tense)

"kupić" in future tense (since it's perfective, so it doesn't have present tense):
kupię
kupisz
kupi
kupimy
kupicie
kupią
gosiaczek 1 | 85  
1 Mar 2008 /  #17
Are you saying that "kupuję" etc. ara forms of "kupić"? Of course they are NOT.
It's like Mufasa wrote ("kupować" in present tense)

you're right.

Sorry Mufasa, I didn't want to mislead you.
OP Mufasa 19 | 358  
1 Mar 2008 /  #18
"kupić" in future tense (since it's perfective, so it doesn't have present tense):
kupię
kupisz
kupi
kupimy
kupicie
kupią

If it's future tense, will it not stay in bezokolicnik but with bendę, itd in front?

ja bendę kupić
itd?
RJ_cdn - | 267  
1 Mar 2008 /  #19
In this case, I think, it will be:

ja będę/ ty będziesz/ on/ona/ono będzie kupować
my będziemy/wy będziecie/ oni/one będą kupować
OP Mufasa 19 | 358  
1 Mar 2008 /  #20
this means

.... will be buying, tak?

edit: or will buy?
RJ_cdn - | 267  
1 Mar 2008 /  #21
will be buying, tak?

yes

will buy?

(Ja) kupię
OP Mufasa 19 | 358  
1 Mar 2008 /  #22
(Ja) kupię

why not ja będę kupic?

what is the difference between the two - this is what i don't get!!

sorry - probably making you as crazy and confused at the mo as i am? :/
Krzysztof 2 | 973  
1 Mar 2008 /  #23
(Ja) kupię
why not ja będę kupić?

I can't answer why, but at least the rule is simple: perfective verbs form future tense by "normal" conjugation (kupię), imperfective with the auxiliary verb "być" (będę + kupować).

It's like asking why (in English) you make past tense of some verbs without the auxiliary ones (Did you buy/see/go ? etc., but Could you? Were you? etc., you can't say "Did you can?" nor "Did you be?")
OP Mufasa 19 | 358  
2 Mar 2008 /  #24
perfective verbs form future tense by "normal" conjugation (kupię), imperfective with the auxiliary verb "być" (będę + kupować)

does this mean that not all verbs have perfective/imperfective forms?
i think być will not, but what about the rest?
Krzysztof 2 | 973  
2 Mar 2008 /  #25
Honestly, I'm not sure :)
even "być" has an imperfective form ("bywać")

To dziecko jest urocze - To dziecko bywa czasami urocze (This kid is lovely - This kid can sometimes be lovely)
OP Mufasa 19 | 358  
2 Mar 2008 /  #26
it makes sense that tey all have - thanx

please check out the adjectives question
vlk - | 19  
14 May 2008 /  #27
KUPIĆ - once or single time
past: kupiłem = I bought
present: none
future: kupię = I'll buy

KUPOWAĆ - many times or extended period of time
past: kupowałem = I was buying
present: kupuję = I buy
future: będę kupować (no one-word form) = I'll be buying

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