Instrumental form in Polish

What is the difference between

łódź = ?? also plural form?
łódka = boat (little rowing?)
statek = ship

instrumental = łódź(i)em?
instrumental = łódką
instrumental = statkiem

Here you are:

łódź (boat) instrumental=łodzią
plural łodzie instrumental plural=łodziami

łódka (small boat) instrumental= łódką
statek (ship) instrumental=statkiem

and:

okręt (warship) instrumental=okrętem.

£odzią.

New avatar Muf ?

instrumental should be łódzią


łódż - a small vessel, usually one without a deck (although a submatine is łódż podwodna)
statek - a large vessel
okręt - large, seagoing vessel, or a warship

łódź: is it masculine, or feminine or neutre - if you look at the nominativ, it looks m, but if you look at the instrumental, it looks feminine? i'm confused?

and - how big a boat would łódź be? boat can be pretty much anything?

okręt - plural okręty? (btw - thanx for adding to my load ;) as if i don't have enough to work on :/ :P


yeah - had some fun with mufasa on Christmas Eve - you can go check on the floppy ears thread. you look too cute to resist!!! ;)

feminine


size does not matter? :)
Seriously, size is not what you think about here. It's more the construction of the vessel. You could have statek larger than łódź. So most of the time think this way:

deck - statek
no deck - łódź

EDIT:


don't forget about tratwa - raft :)

You're welcome. ;)

okręt plural=okręty
plural instrumental=okrętami.

Ships and warships are my hobby ;)

you must have a large backyard ;)

but you wouldn't have a łódź larger than a statek - if you think about the deck thing, because how big a boat can you get without a deck?


instrumental - tratwą?



:P

so nice to play boat-boat with you boys today - any other ones i should know about - since we have a whole thread for this topic? ;)

You may have a point here. Shipbuilding has always been my weaker side ;)


You're getting that feel for the language! Great!

come to think of it - the question now turns to the difference between łódź and łódka?


as if it's been my stronger side :D lol


why, thank you, Pan Darku (if I remember correctly?). next time when i have a rotten day, i'll know where to come fish for complements to make myself feel better ;P

This time I will not spoil the moment :)

wasn't correct

Panie Darku? at some @%#^$& point I have to remember this!!!


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łódka is simply mała łódż

it also means a longish cleavage in ladies' blouses and sresses.

thought so - dzięki Panie Darku


hubby says that sounds interesting - hehehe ;P

Yeah, one might certainly feel like a little rowing sometimes ;)

as long as you don't sink - he says - LOL

your hubby also a native of SA?
For some reason I thought he was Polish.

łódź podwodna instrumental = łodzią podwodną
plural = łodzie podwodny?


yes :)


You're not the first one to think he is Polish. See, there is a thing amongst Polish people on this Forum that, if someone from another country comes to live in Poland, that the partner must necessarily be Polish. ;) Another Polish stereotype ;P

I guess you're right about the stereotype. In your case it seems a more exotic idea to go to Poland than for, say, a European. couple. Kinda like people asking me what Africaans was when they saw the manual on my bookshelf. I never got around to learning it though.

Also, I left Poland 20 years ago, so the stereotypes in the back of my mind might be even stronger than those of Poles living in Poland right now. You probably know about today's Poland more than I do. In short, it appears that the country I left no longer exists :)

Aren't you curious to come and see? It's exciting - and scary - just like SA at the moment :)



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I am. My daughter went to Poland a couple years ago and she loved the country and the people. She wants to go and live there for a couple years, perhaps longer. I guess I'll have to check it all out too.


łodzie podwodne

Yeah, and on your way back to Ontario you can pop round South Africa for an 'exotic' holiday in the South ;)

łodzie ratunkowe - lifeboats?
łodzie motorowe - motor boats?
łodzie żaglowe - sailing boats?

Yes

:D :D


ale

tratwy ratunkowy?

tratwy ratunkowe

This is the same old argument about the difference between duży and wielki all over again. A statek is wielki whereas a łódź would be duża!

Michal, is it your usual drugs or an overdose of good ole' bigos this time?

I must say that I would like to see South Africa again as it was a very interesting visit. I stayed in a place called margat near to Port Shepston in Natal but it was in 1976 and I expect things have changed a bit since then.

you have no idea!